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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Rated X » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:29 pm

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I love him !!! Its like a mini kronos in proper classics scale. And unlike kronos, the windows are a nice translucent blue plastic. The face is whatever. Ive got worse head sculpts in my collection from funpub and IT. So Im cool with it. So when can we get a price and a preorder ?
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:45 am

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As promised here are some pictures showing SkyGuardians compatibility with other popular accessories. We also wanted to leave our options open to add our own accessories in the future because we have a lot of ideas about toys we want to make.

There is no parts forming involved in the transformation. We tried to create a balance in both modes so we could be as close as possible to the on screen appearance while maintaining a perfect transformation.



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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:50 am

Rated X wrote:I love him !!! Its like a mini kronos in proper classics scale. And unlike kronos, the windows are a nice translucent blue plastic. The face is whatever. Ive got worse head sculpts in my collection from funpub and IT. So Im cool with it. So when can we get a price and a preorder ?


Kronos has a Translucent blue Canopy window. Kronos has articulated fingers, Diecast metal, Strong ratchet joints, Better face.

SkyGuardians hip joints look so inferior and weak. MF-01 has no diecast, no articulated fingers, inferior joints and a ugly face.

Judging from the pic of MF-01 next to TW Hardbone. It appears SkyGuardian is around Eleven inches tall in robot mode. Since Hardbone is a Eight inch robot mode.

In that Kronos Thread, Citizen is in a pic next to Kronos. Citizen is a Thirteen inch robot mode. Citizen is one inch taller than Kronos. This makes Kronos around Tweleve inches tall in robot mode.

Kronos is barely One to Two inches taller than SkyGuardian.

Still think all Three, 3rd party Skyfire's toys are epic terrible. Won't be buying any of them. Plan on buying the 30th Leader scale Jetfire toy instead
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:17 am

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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:00 pm

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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Wh33l Jck » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:43 pm

I wish leader Jetfire had an alt mode that looked like this......
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby megatronus » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:50 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:this thing really needs a new head... all i can see his him being really sad and crying.

*Boo-Hoo* Starscream tricked me *Boo-Hoo* ;)

I'm sure someone will step in to give this guy a proper noggin.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:44 am

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mooncake623 wrote:this thing really needs a new head... all i can see his him being really sad and crying.

*Boo-Hoo* Starscream tricked me *Boo-Hoo* ;)

I'm sure someone will step in to give this guy a proper noggin.


I'm crying looking at him crying. haha not really but yea Dr. Wu? speaking of which... he seems to have slow down a lot huh? not much new from him.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Rated X » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:54 am

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Rated X wrote:I love him !!! Its like a mini kronos in proper classics scale. And unlike kronos, the windows are a nice translucent blue plastic. The face is whatever. Ive got worse head sculpts in my collection from funpub and IT. So Im cool with it. So when can we get a price and a preorder ?


Kronos has a Translucent blue Canopy window. Kronos has articulated fingers, Diecast metal, Strong ratchet joints, Better face.

SkyGuardians hip joints look so inferior and weak. MF-01 has no diecast, no articulated fingers, inferior joints and a ugly face.

Judging from the pic of MF-01 next to TW Hardbone. It appears SkyGuardian is around Eleven inches tall in robot mode. Since Hardbone is a Eight inch robot mode.

In that Kronos Thread, Citizen is in a pic next to Kronos. Citizen is a Thirteen inch robot mode. Citizen is one inch taller than Kronos. This makes Kronos around Tweleve inches tall in robot mode.

Kronos is barely One to Two inches taller than SkyGuardian.

Still think all Three, 3rd party Skyfire's toys are epic terrible. Won't be buying any of them. Plan on buying the 30th Leader scale Jetfire toy instead



I was referring to the upper canopy on Kronos. It sure looks painted blue to me unlike the main cockpit which is somewhat translucent. Sky Guardian has both in nice clear blue translucent plastic.

I hate diecast on figures and try to avoid it whenever possible. I don't like paint chipping or figures flopping over due to unnecessary weight.

I don't care about articulated fingers. There cool but often too delicate. And im so over my figures flipping the bird.

How do you know Kronos ratchet joints are strong ? The figure isn't even out yet ? I like ratchet joints. But I do remember TFC's first crack at them (Heavy Labor) didnt go so well. Im not saying Kronos gears will strip, but who knows ?

One or two inches can make all the difference in the world to people who care about scale like me. (Hence Grimlock and Hegemon moon boots)

The face isn't perfect but it's not that bad. Some Botcon figures and the IT Tetra jets have worse faces. Im good with it.

Im not so excited about the Hasbro 30th jetfire because of the jet mode. Its a single pilot fighter jet the size of a super bomber/cargo jet. If it was any bigger you could probably fit a 3 inch vintage GI Joe figure in the cockpit. So the jet mode is way out of scale for classics. I might buy it just to display in robot mode on another shelf. But the voyager Jetfire filled the void years ago. Now it's all about owning the Cybertronian jet in proper classics scale. That's why I want this.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Gurgintius Maximus » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:34 am

I'm glad you have found a decent skyfire for your collection X. I just might get this myself on principal, glad to see this guy getting some love for once.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:40 am

Think most of the Sculpted joints on this toy are inferior. Because these are the type of weaker sculpted joints that get more used on Legends, Basics and deluxes. Not they type of joints that get used on bigger Scaled TF toys of this Over ten to Eleven inch robot toy scale.

Can't get past the ugly sculpted parts and joints on this toy. The Two sculpted white poles comming out of the waist plate-crotch sides area that get attached to the ball joints hips look so ugly and fragile breakable. Having ball jointed hips on such a big over Ten inch heavy robot mode. will no doubt put stress and make those hips ball joints get loose fast over a short time period.

Those Knee joints don't look that great in sculpt either. Why are their Frankenstein sculpted bolts sticking out on the inner knees. Couldn't they have done a better job covering up the gear type ratchet knee joints. why are they so exposed.

Noticed the elbow joints has that easily slide off joints used on legends, basics and deluxe scaled TF toys.

Those closed fist, Non articulated fingers on a 3rd party TF toy of this Eleven inch scale is unacceptable since these toys cost more than the Hasbro versions.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:40 am

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After seeing a lot of comments about the head on SkyGuardian some of you liked the current version but some did not so we have made some changes. The space this head fits into is quite constrained so we had to work within that. If we go ahead with this head it will be as an extra head because the original has already been done so you will have the option to use the face use like better or alternate. How do you like the new head?

Also a big thanks to the fan who sent us a photoshop with some ideas on improving the head.Not sure if he wanted his name mentioned but he is very well known to the fandom and his help is appreciated



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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby megatronus » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:37 pm

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After seeing a lot of comments about the head on SkyGuardian some of you liked the current version but some did not so we have made some changes. The space this head fits into is quite constrained so we had to work within that. If we go ahead with this head it will be as an extra head because the original has already been done so you will have the option to use the face use like better or alternate. How do you like the new head?

Also a big thanks to the fan who sent us a photoshop with some ideas on improving the head.Not sure if he wanted his name mentioned but he is very well known to the fandom and his help is appreciated



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That new render looks much, much better! I commend them for taking fan feedback in stride, and adding the new head option so folks have choices.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Rated X » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:25 pm

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Now thats a good head job. When do we get the preorders ?
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:28 pm

Great job, Secondary head looks nice.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby mooncake623 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:49 pm

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he looks like he is lacking confidence... lol still much nicer than the first one.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:07 pm

:lol: Think, He looks like he's constipated. :lol:
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby necr0blivion » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:48 am

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The new expression looks a little strange, but maybe the printed product will look better.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:33 pm

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Another up date from MechaForm .

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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby xyl360 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:43 pm

I think I'm with you on this one X. I was tempted by Kronos, but after seeing the size of it and seeing the jet mode on this one as well as the bot mode on Has/Tak's, I think I'm just going to grab Takara's Voyager for bot mode and a SkyGuardian for jet mode.

I might reconsider grabbing Kronos if I get a real itch to fill in the Skyfire slot on my MP shelf (at least if I see some reviews and comparison pics etc. of him with the modern MPs and he actually looks good/fits in with them), but right now I'm pretty satisfied with the lineup I've got along with the upcoming official MPs due in the upcoming months.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Wh33l Jck » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:57 am

The more I see this, the more I want this due to g1 goodness, I just wish it was a bit better.

I can get past the so-so head sculpt, and non articulated hands...even the open gaps around the waist.

I have a feeling no thigh swivel will make him not fun to pose though....

The price on this needs to be really good and needs to be ready to ship soon...hasbro's should be coming out soon.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:50 pm

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We have made a number of other parts for Skyguardian. Right now we can say that these new hands will be included.There are also a number of other parts that will be in this set. We have tried to address some of the issues talked about here. Right now we are calculating what we can fit in the mold, so soon we can show a render of all that stuff.


Also two new heads will be added .

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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:41 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:MechaForm

We have made a number of other parts for Skyguardian. Right now we can say that these new hands will be included.There are also a number of other parts that will be in this set. We have tried to address some of the issues talked about here. Right now we are calculating what we can fit in the mold, so soon we can show a render of all that stuff.


Also two new heads will be added .

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Think it's great that 3rd parties are stepping up to the plate. Asking for advice to improve things, fixing things and adding more parts. Is a clear attempt to at least try to please buyers.
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:01 pm

Motto: "There is no style i can't MASTER! . I constantly evolve ."
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Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:MechaForm

We have made a number of other parts for Skyguardian. Right now we can say that these new hands will be included.There are also a number of other parts that will be in this set. We have tried to address some of the issues talked about here. Right now we are calculating what we can fit in the mold, so soon we can show a render of all that stuff.


Also two new heads will be added .

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Think it's great that 3rd parties are stepping up to the plate. Asking for advice to improve things, fixing things and adding more parts. Is a clear attempt to at least try to please buyers.


MF are actually listening to fans . They are taking a lot of feedback on there Dinobots at the moment and taking it all on board , by the sounds of it they already started making some big changes to there designs .
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Re: MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:10 am

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Nice jet form but butt ugly face!
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