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Postby OptimusShr » Tue May 22, 2007 7:16 pm

Shadowman wrote:As far as I'm concerned, and reploid is a free-thinking andriod based on the design of MegaMan X.

Wily based Zero on the design of MegaMan X.

Therefore, Zero is a reploid.


IIRC that is how reploids are described in the manual for the first X game, X was a new type of robot that actually had free will rather than the simulated almost free will of the original series.

Reploids were Machines that had true free will like X, but were loosely based on his design. In fact IIRC Dr. Cain said he fully didn't understand lights notes so they are actually quite different from Light's design. How closely Wily followed Light's plans is up to debate.

As for the Mavericks that appeared before Zero's activation. It is possible that they truly hated humans freely as they have free will and except for the fact that they are machines are no different from humans. It is also possible Zero had been spreading the virus for a long time before he was active.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Tue May 22, 2007 7:55 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Wily based Zero on the design of MegaMan X.


That's just a theory. But, it's the theory that most fans accept.

I mean, it's really plausible. Wily steals Light's designs (and designs by other scientists) all the time. He's pretty freaking lazy.

MM1: All of the robot masters were built by Dr. Light and reprogrammed by Wily.
MM2: Capcom has stated that many of the robot masters in MM2 were based off of the original RMs' designs. Crash Man is based off of Bomb Man, Metal Man is based off of Cut Man, Quick Man is based off of Elec Man, etc.
MM4: Wily reprogrammed the Cossack bots.
MM6: Wily reprogrammed the robots from the tournament.
MM7: Wily stole the Rush Power Adaptor design from Light for Bass.
MM&B: Wily reprogrammed civilian robot masters.
MM Arcade Series: Wily sent various old robot masters instead of building new ones.

On a different topic, it's pretty scary that Wily, one of the most evil humans up until Weil, could build a badass like Zero. I mean, come on! He's the second most powerful character in the WHOLE FREAKING CONTINUITY!
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Postby OptimusShr » Wed May 23, 2007 8:04 am

While it is never said Wily used X's plans to build Zero, I believe it has been mentioned that his construction was similar to X's like other reploids.
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Postby KoH4711 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:02 am

Wow, cool... Mega Man discussion.

I do wish the franchise would go back to some of the earlier stuff. I don't begrudge the newer stuff to people who want it, but I'd really like to see them, y'know, FINISH some of the stories. It's been ten years since Mega Man 8, and I strongly suspect the classic series will get no more sequels(regardless of if you count Mega Man and Bass). Maybe there's a trend of stopping at 8 for all the series... but that means we should get 6 more Legends games.

I'll actually be weird and say Command Mission is my favorite game, because I love the way it expanded the Mega Man X universe. Plus, Marino is awesome. You also have to love Mark Gatha as X(but then again, I'm also a G Gundam nerd, and loved him as Domon, especially as the series went on).

As far as favorite bosses... I used to go by the nick Slashman online, but that went by the wayside when questions I got kept getting weirder and weirder. Still, he's a cool character. Shademan and Fireman are great classic characters. And you can't beat Storm Eagle in the X series.

Cool to see a few Transfans are also MM fans.
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:28 am

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KoH4711 wrote:Wow, cool... Mega Man discussion.

I do wish the franchise would go back to some of the earlier stuff. I don't begrudge the newer stuff to people who want it, but I'd really like to see them, y'know, FINISH some of the stories. It's been ten years since Mega Man 8, and I strongly suspect the classic series will get no more sequels(regardless of if you count Mega Man and Bass). Maybe there's a trend of stopping at 8 for all the series... but that means we should get 6 more Legends games.

I'll actually be weird and say Command Mission is my favorite game, because I love the way it expanded the Mega Man X universe. Plus, Marino is awesome. You also have to love Mark Gatha as X(but then again, I'm also a G Gundam nerd, and loved him as Domon, especially as the series went on).

As far as favorite bosses... I used to go by the nick Slashman online, but that went by the wayside when questions I got kept getting weirder and weirder. Still, he's a cool character. Shademan and Fireman are great classic characters. And you can't beat Storm Eagle in the X series.

Cool to see a few Transfans are also MM fans.


MegaMan X8 and MegaMan X: Command Mission will go down as the only MegaMan games with decent voice acting.

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Postby Autobobby1 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:22 am

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KoH4711 wrote:Maybe there's a trend of stopping at 8 for all the series... but that means we should get 6 more Legends games.


There is no trend. Legends ended at 2, Battle Network ended at 6, and Zero ended at 4.
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Postby Duke of Luns » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:28 am

X4 at least had much better voice acting than MM 8. Of course, 8 didn't really have that much voice acting/story in comparison. At least in Zero's case, X's story stunk in X4. Actually, I think Capcom just kinda didn't care about X after X4, cause it's a lot more fun(and in some cases a bit easier) to be Zero in X4-X6.

Haven't gotten X7 or X8 yet, mostly cause I kinda got a little burned out on the X Collection, so I don't know if it's still more fun to play as Zero than X in them.

One thing I was wondering, does Zero's ending in X6 tie into the MM Zero games(haven't played any of those), cause they mention an exact date he was supposed to wake up, and that's 100 years later, which of course is when Zero is supposed to take place if I'm not mistaken.
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KoH4711 wrote:You also have to love Mark Gatha as X.

Damn straight. He is X. Period. His work in Maverick Hunter X was superb.
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:08 pm

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KoH4711 wrote:You also have to love Mark Gatha as X.

Damn straight. He is X. Period. His work in Maverick Hunter X was superb.


Mark Gatha kicks ass at most of the stuff he does. Especially X.
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Postby KoH4711 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:50 am

Ah, my bad as far as the end of the handheld series... I've not really kept up with them, as I don't really do any handheld gaming.

I really wish they'd done more than the one X animated segment. That's a series that could lend itself to a good animation adaptation(then again, I remember the Ruby-Spears cartoon, so maybe I shouldn't wish such a horrid fate upon it).
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