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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby IHide » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:37 am

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My guess is he was still too badly hurt (I mean, he had bugs crawling out of his head) to carry on the war as he had in the past. This way, he could still move his agenda forward and keep his place of power.
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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby TurboMMaster » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:20 am

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Actually, i think that hole in his head is just another reason to kill Optimus, you know, payback time...
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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby Capt.Failure » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:47 am

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:As far as I'm concerned, I blame it on Paramount's decision to change the ending so it was different from the other mediums' (that's what I heard, anyways.)

I've re-watched DOTM over a dozen times so far, and it just seems so nonsensical for Megatron to do what he did. OP was right to kill him, given who and what Megatron is (ruthless dictator), but the circumstances seem so forced.

Having Carly play the instigator is pure nonsense; he'd have to be a ****** to fall for that. Megs should have come to despise Sentinel the moment his face was pushed against the wall, and made his own plans to kill Sentinel when the time was right.


You'd be amazed what being wounded and depressed can do to someone's resolve. Just because he's Megatron doesn't make him immune to such things. He was weak both physically and mentally and Carly played to his sense of pride as he basked in what he assumed was complete vicotry. It was a well done scene honestly.

And his proposal for a truce? It's just not in character for someone as brash, proud and egotistical as Megatron. With Cybertron destroyed, Megatron would be overcome with grief and anger, and he'd challenge OP to a final fight, even though he knows he'll lose. A warrior's death is Megatron's one final victory.

That would be more like Megatron, instead of grovelling for a truce.


Always watched that scene and saw Megs realizing he was quite literally the last living Decepticon on Earth and was like, "Well...I'm slagged." I wouldn't call it groveling either. Maybe he was honestly deluded enough to believe Optimus would accept a truce with the bot who'd tried to destroy Earth three times, killed him once, and was responsible for the original destruction of Cybertron.

TL;DR, Megs acted out of character, and should have challenged OP to a fight to the death instead of beg for peace.


After three movies, at least to me, I prefer to see Megatron get an unceremonious axe to the noggin for the things he did to everyone. Had it coming, honestly.
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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:02 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:You'd be amazed what being wounded and depressed can do to someone's resolve. Just because he's Megatron doesn't make him immune to such things. He was weak both physically and mentally and Carly played to his sense of pride as he basked in what he assumed was complete vicotry. It was a well done scene honestly.


You've got a point there.

My only beef with this, is that I didn't like the fact that Carly was the sole instigator of his actions. Sure, she could be the tipping point in which he just snaps and goes after Sentinel, but I'd like to see his growing resentment towards Sentinel played out a bit.

Like I said, he should have showed some poorly-disguised anger at having his face shoved into a wall by Sentinel. Just a couple of seconds showing Megatron glaring daggers at Sentinel, before turning away with an angry grunt. I just like to see these things played out on screen instead of reading between the lines.

In this case, I think neither of us are wrong. Just a difference of tastes, I suppose.

Capt.Failure wrote:Always watched that scene and saw Megs realizing he was quite literally the last living Decepticon on Earth and was like, "Well...I'm slagged." I wouldn't call it groveling either. Maybe he was honestly deluded enough to believe Optimus would accept a truce with the bot who'd tried to destroy Earth three times, killed him once, and was responsible for the original destruction of Cybertron.


Honestly, I think we both have different impressions of who Megatron is. I see him as an exceedingly proud egoist who'd rather face death than shame and dishonor.

He's always portrayed himself as a patriot, spouting lines like, "Is the survival of our race not worth one human life?", and "Cybertron, you are saved." IMO, he lives for the glory of Cybertron. And with it destroyed, I could imagine that he would find no reason to go on, nothing to live for.

Of course, one might argue that Megatron's a hypocrite who can't walk the talk when the time comes, but to me at lease, he seems to be the genuine article.

Capt.Failure wrote:After three movies, at least to me, I prefer to see Megatron get an unceremonious axe to the noggin for the things he did to everyone. Had it coming, honestly.


In the case of Sentinel, I'd agree. **** shot Ironhide in the back.

Personally, I'd prefer to see an awesome last fight between Megs and OP, seeing as he's not coming back for TF4. Unless someone decides to resurrect him yet again, in which case, I'd actually want to see him get an unceremonious axe to the head. :D
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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby TurboMMaster » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:00 am

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I completly agree with you SKYWARPED_128. Megatron dose'nt deserved to die such way. At worst he supossed to die during long and epic fight with Optimus. However I think he should either kill both Primes and run away, or try to kill Optimus, but be stopped by other Autobots, who arrive in last right moment, but be able to escape them. I could even tolerate a truce offer, but only in completly diffrent ocasion.

Always watched that scene and saw Megs realizing he was quite literally the last living Decepticon on Earth and was like
Literally last living Decepticon? What about all Cons gathered outside the Detroit?
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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:30 pm

TurboMMaster wrote:I completly agree with you SKYWARPED_128. Megatron dose'nt deserved to die such way. At worst he supossed to die during long and epic fight with Optimus. However I think he should either kill both Primes and run away, or try to kill Optimus, but be stopped by other Autobots, who arrive in last right moment, but be able to escape them. I could even tolerate a truce offer, but only in completly diffrent ocasion.

Always watched that scene and saw Megs realizing he was quite literally the last living Decepticon on Earth and was like
Literally last living Decepticon? What about all Cons gathered outside the Detroit?


...oh snap, forgot about them. :shock:
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Re: Megatron truce proposal... why?

Postby RhA » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:20 am

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TurboMMaster wrote:I completly agree with you SKYWARPED_128. Megatron dose'nt deserved to die such way. At worst he supossed to die during long and epic fight with Optimus. However I think he should either kill both Primes and run away, or try to kill Optimus, but be stopped by other Autobots, who arrive in last right moment, but be able to escape them. I could even tolerate a truce offer, but only in completly diffrent ocasion.

Always watched that scene and saw Megs realizing he was quite literally the last living Decepticon on Earth and was like
Literally last living Decepticon? What about all Cons gathered outside the Detroit?


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