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Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby First Gen » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:39 pm

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According to a post by TFW2005.com member Alienbot, Empire Magazine will be featuring a piece on Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Director Michael Bay in its September 2009 issue.

Michael Bay was quoted in the post as saying this about the possible introduction of the Dinobots for Transformers 3:

"They've never been discussed [for inclusion]" stated Bay. "I don't like them. Actually, I hate them."

Could the director of the 10th most domestically grossing film in movie history be throwing us an early "misinformation" loop well before production of the third film begins? Let us know what you think by clicking Discuss this topic above.

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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Seibertron » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:47 pm

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I have to say that I kind of hope that the Dinobots don't make it to the movie-verse, but I dunno ... after Skids and Mudflap, anything would be better than them. I could buy the whole Dinobot story-line I guess if they stick to their Marvel comics origin of Shockwave coming to Earth in Prehistoric times, etc. Though I think they ruined that version's chance after doing a prehistoric bit with The Fallen. * sigh *

I'd like to see Soundwave get some robot screen time in the next film. And a return to Cybertron.

Unicron is another character that scares me for the 3rd film. I just don't see the point in the movie-verse.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Universe » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:57 pm

i like the Dinobots however, it doesn't seem like they will fit in well with the movie universe. Having monsters (robots), robots, and dinosaurs is a bit much.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby RiddlerJ » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:59 pm

I remember Bay complaining how he hated Arcee too. Is there any characters he does actually like? I mean, besides the jive talkin' ones he makes up?
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

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RiddlerJ wrote:I remember Bay complaining how he hated Arcee too. Is there any characters he does actually like? I mean, besides the jive talkin' ones he makes up?

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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Lockdown91 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:10 pm

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There are ways in which they could write them into the film, something like, bring wheeljack into it first, and wheeljack being a mad scientest decides to build them out of fascination of prehistoric dinosaurs, then they come in and kick tailpipes at the end climatic battle which is bound to happen.

but if michael bay claims he hates them then there's probably not much of a chance of them being in the third film.

but then again, maybe it is another misinformation campaign which will fail just as much as ROTF's misinformation campaign failed hahaha :P

anyway it would be interesting to see how they'd work them into the film.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Jetstorm9221 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:13 pm

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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby sunburn » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:26 pm

I think Bay hates plot continuity too. It seems like the only thing that Bay supervised in the movie was the explosions and making sure his name was incorporated with transformers.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby First Gen » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:34 pm

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sunburn wrote:I think Bay hates plot continuity too. It seems like the only thing that Bay supervised in the movie was the explosions and making sure his name was incorporated with transformers.


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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby DinobotKing » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:50 pm

Yeah, because we can totally buy the believability of a giant robot scorpion in the first two movies. But robot dinosaurs? Now you're just being silly.....
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby bronzgunz » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:52 pm

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:lol: Seriously, "hate"? That's harsh, dude. :(
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Archanubis » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:57 pm

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Sometimes I think he says things just to see how the fans will react. Besides, he's not the first person involved with the films to say he's not fond of the Dinobots.

Personally, I would love to see 'em in the films, but there may not be any way to fit them into the films, either storywise or aesthetically. Besides, Bay's always wanted that aircraft-carrier Transformer, so now would be a good time to introduce the supergiants like Omega Supreme or Tidal Wave.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

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DinobotKing wrote:Yeah, because we can totally buy the believability of a giant robot scorpion in the first two movies. But robot dinosaurs? Now you're just being silly.....


Hmm.... Never thought about that. Good point.

Though i have to agree with most, that i hope they don't make it into the next movie. Scorpinix worked well being a "Scout" that was able to tail the army team in the first movie.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby It Is Him » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:05 pm

First Gen wrote:Michael Bay was quoted in the post as saying this about the possible introduction of the Dinobots for Transformers 3:

"They've never been discussed [for inclusion]" stated Bay. "I don't like them. Actually, I hate them."


Before I even read the story, the headline alone made me LOL hard. I love that Bay's already decided he hates the Dinobots. How could anyone hate on Snarl?
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Tigertrack » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:09 pm

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I could not really care. When I found out that the movie universe did not really fit with what I consider my favorite Transformers aesthetic, stories, etc., I really gave up caring what choices they make.

I mean sure it's fun to see in the theater, but after that, back to collecting the Transformers I like. The only thing that I hope for, is that the movie-universe does not become the next cartoon universe.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby First-Aid » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:14 pm

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I really don't listen to anything he says anymore, honestly, and could care less.

The biggest reason for not having Dinobots is the fact that continue to try and hold on to the robots IN DISGUISE thing. Giant mechanical dinosaurs are not really very good disguises. Simple logic. You could incorporate them in an ancient Earth setting, but in the modern world it makes no sense because they'd stick out like...uh...well, like a T. Rex in downtown Chicago. Now, I like what has been done in the recent comics- turning the Dinobots into the Dynobots (it's the "A-Team" of the Transformers universe!). But as dinosaurs...no. Won't work.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Starscream6 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:17 pm

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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Archanubis » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:20 pm

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First-Aid wrote:The biggest reason for not having Dinobots is the fact that continue to try and hold on to the robots IN DISGUISE thing.

Kinda got blown out of the water in the last movie with the Fallen announcing the presence of Transformers on Earth, don'tcha think?
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby TRANS+CRAZY » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:29 pm

Universe wrote:i like the Dinobots however, it doesn't seem like they will fit in well with the movie universe.



I agree 100% on that.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Baha08 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:35 pm

I honestly think Bay is more for the fame and the quick bucks. Because the plot, lack of character in the characters, use of military hook ups, use of special effects that are not really needed, it's safe to say to some degree the movie isn't much for the fans.

I mean I bet the G.I. Joe movie does somewhat better and has a plot. The original G1 hardly had a plot but like their are easy ways to make the Transformers movie line better and it's not even that hard, one thing would have to be simple by tuning down the realism a slight bit because it's one of the things people except hardasses or jokes point out about how this and that isn't real, even though everyone wanted to see huge robots fighting.

And if anything I bet he'll go to the realistic extremes again and have the entire ROTF plot covered up, even after the transmission from Soundwave and the Fallen, not to mention a pyramid blowing up.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

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Archanubis wrote:
First-Aid wrote:The biggest reason for not having Dinobots is the fact that continue to try and hold on to the robots IN DISGUISE thing.

Kinda got blown out of the water in the last movie with the Fallen announcing the presence of Transformers on Earth, don'tcha think?


This actually reminds me of something I wondered when watching RotF: Where does the movie series go from here? With the revelation of an alien presence on Earth, how does the world at large react?

I mean the final battle from the first movie takes place in a populated area. The second movie shows that at least one NEST operation was in the wide open(the Shanghai scene). Add in the Fallen's broadcast to the world. Can the fictional world's governments cover all that up? Will the third movie go with the Autobots and Decepticons as known entities to the general public? If so, I'm sure Dinobots can be worked in to be okay in the movie's context since the robots no longer have to be in disguise.
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I mean I bet the G.I. Joe movie does somewhat better and has a plot.


Actually, the G.I Joe forums are hating on the movie claiming the story (among other things) lacks. Just like many here were doing when the first movie came out.

At most, i think its pointless to try and cater movies like these to the fans cause one way or another, they'll find some way to **** and complain. Its really a no win situation.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:47 pm

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Archanubis wrote:
First-Aid wrote:The biggest reason for not having Dinobots is the fact that continue to try and hold on to the robots IN DISGUISE thing.

Kinda got blown out of the water in the last movie with the Fallen announcing the presence of Transformers on Earth, don'tcha think?


This actually reminds me of something I wondered when watching RotF: Where does the movie series go from here? With the revelation of an alien presence on Earth, how does the world at large react?

I mean the final battle from the first movie takes place in a populated area. The second movie shows that at least one NEST operation was in the wide open(the Shanghai scene). Add in the Fallen's broadcast to the world. Can the fictional world's governments cover all that up? .


The fallens broadcast is easy enough to cover up as a hoax. Someone hacking into a network. (and this was said in the movie). Be honest with yourself... If you saw a broadcast like that would you believe it without some kind of evidence? I'm most just brushed it off as some hacker playing a game.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Baha08 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:52 pm

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Baha08 wrote:
I mean I bet the G.I. Joe movie does somewhat better and has a plot.


Actually, the G.I Joe forums are hating on the movie claiming the story (among other things) lacks. Just like many here were doing when the first movie came out.

At most, i think its pointless to try and cater movies like these to the fans cause one way or another, they'll find some way to **** and complain. Its really a no win situation.


Actually it's pretty damn simple to cater to the fans and new people. It's not very hard, in fact it's called making a good plot. I mean even for a movie like Transformers you can do it in like three movies and have a plot similar to the original but still different or easy to follow so the others would enjoy it. I just think that half the time writers like to think they are special but in reality they are pretty crappy from time to time.
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Re: Michael Bay on the Dinobots: "I hate them."

Postby Metroplex79 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:57 pm

Jetstorm9221 wrote:"Me Grimlock, hate him too!"

But...but you're Jetstorm!!! :P

Seriously, I don't see how Dinobots can be in this movie-universe. It could happen...Scorponok and Ravage showed up. Maybe they'll introduce "Beast Planet", looking for a fight, Grimlock and his band of followers head to Earth on a rumor that big bad Megatron is there, and he wants to challenge Megatron. :-?

But realistically, I'm more expecting Jumpstarters, Battlechargers, and Duocons in the next movie. Looking for an advantage in combat, transforming faster into robot mode will give the Autobots a chance to strike first. The Decepticons counter with Battlechargers and develop Duocons...double the Con, double strength, double the power!!!

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