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Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby El Duque » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:17 am

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Depending on your equipment you may noticed some color and brightness issues with the recent Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray home release. Director Michael Bay dropped by his Shoot for the Edit forums and had the following to say regarding these issues:

The reason some 3D TV color on some systems might not look perfect? Well because there is no standards in 3D. It sounds stupid doesn't it. When we color transfer we spend weeks on a single format. Six weeks on the feature, then weeks additional on DVD, then weeks more on 3D. Every single shot might have brightness windows color moves high light adds. My colors on almost every one of my films have had almost perfect color space scores. I'm the guy who did the first - film to digital - digital transfer release on a movie - Bad Boys 2. I know color and telecine equipment better then almost any director out there. But when I started doing my 3D transfer with the most talented color telecine expert in the world, my buddy Stephan. He told me 3D is ****. There is no standard to the equipment it is the wild west right now. So if it looks bad it's your product. We aimed color space for the most the equipment that has the biggest market share. In our room it looked perfect. So I'm sorry but it's your equipment. Tell the business to standardize and it will all look perfect in the future. Sorry.

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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby BATTOUSAI XD » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:30 am

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Hmm glad i don't have a 3D tv looks like I might be screwed if I didn't have the "right " brand.
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby jrgreer74 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:07 am

I have an LG 47LW6500 using a PS3 for the 3D Blu-ray playback, and the color is perfect! Maybe those having trouble could change the brightness settings on their setups. All the 3D Blu-rays I've watched look great! If you're looking for something (in spite of the "Not Full 1080 HD" argument)I can suggest the LG's in the LW6500 series. Sure the 55" may of been bigger, but in our living room it would of been way too big. It can also up-convert anything to 3D. Up-conversion isn't perfect, but it's cool. My family loves it! Especially, the little one!
"The Cat in the Hat knows a lot about that!" in 3D anyone? :D
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby Aluus » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:12 am

The reason some 3D TV color on some systems might not look perfect? Well because there is no standards in 3D. It sounds stupid doesn't it. When we color transfer we spend weeks on a single format. Six weeks on the feature, then weeks additional on DVD, then weeks more on 3D. Every single shot might have brightness windows color moves high light adds. My colors on almost every one of my films have had almost perfect color space scores. I'm the guy who did the first - film to digital - digital transfer release on a movie - Bad Boys 2. I know color and telecine equipment better then almost any director out there. But when I started doing my 3D transfer with the most talented color telecine expert in the world, my buddy Stephan. He told me 3D is **** There is no standard to the equipment it is the wild west right now. So if it looks bad it's your product. We aimed color space for the most the equipment that has the biggest market share. In our room it looked perfect. So I'm sorry but it's your equipment. Tell the business to standardize and it will all look perfect in the future. Sorry.

Michael


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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby IAmThePeej » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:56 am

Translation wrote:Look, you see, I spend all my time doing this, what I see is great because I make SO MUCH MORE than you ever will, so I buy the best equipment, TVs, everything. So everything looks great on my end. I had a friend come over and explain really quick what Telecine means, and because he knows some pretty damn big words, I think he's the best there ever is and ever will be. I also like saying I'm better than everyone at everything I do. Now as for why my 3D BluRays don't look good in your house? You bought a Vizio from WalMart on Black Friday because that's all you can afford. Not my problem, its yours. I'm not broke, so it looks great on my setup. Go buy something better and it just MAY look slightly better. I mean, what else are credit cards for? Sorry (not really).

Michael


Am I the only one who read it as this^?
I seriously don't like him as a director, and his response to a problem is "go buy a new 3DTV/ BluRay Player/ Glasses"?
Thanks dick for telling me its my fault and to go buy better stuff.. He's really shown why I don't support his "movies", if you can call SFX porn a real movie.
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby Burn » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:02 am

IAmThePeej wrote:I seriously don't like him as a director, and his response to a problem is "go buy a new 3DTV/ BluRay Player/ Glasses"?
Thanks dick for telling me its my fault and to go buy better stuff.. He's really shown why I don't support his "movies", if you can call SFX porn a real movie.


Way to misinterpret. :roll:

The only thing he said is basically put a call out for 3D technology to have a standard developed so that 3D looks the same on ALL tv's. Thus people won't have to go out and buy different equipment for different movies.

He never said you had to go out and buy different technology, just that if it looks bad on your screen, it's because your technology isn't compatible with his because there's no standard.
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby karellan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:12 am

Bay is a dick as usual, but he's also right, which he usually is about these kinds of things.

I have a Samsung 3D TV from 2010, and the 3D on it looks better than the 3D in theaters, pretty much without exception. Transformers 3 looks awesome on it.
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby T-Macksimus » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:34 am

I'm laughing my A**off right now (and yes, I'm probably going to come across as an even bigger prick than a lot of you think that Bay is, and I don't care).
Stuff like this is EXACTLY why I have been scoffing at the idea of 3D TV since the beginning. It's too $%&@ early in the development of the technology and, here's the worst part, all of you know it and you still buy the @$#% things because you just HAVE to have the latest, coolest High Tech stuff out there!!! Bunch of freaking lemmings or sheep is what you folks are and you deserve the crap results you wind up with. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby karellan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:59 am

Or maybe when I finally got around to upgrading my TV from a standard-def to HD, I got the one that had the best picture, and since it just happened to have 3D, I figured I might as well by the blu-ray movies I want that include it. I put literally no thought into 3D at all when I bought my TV, it's just an added bonus.

You were right about one thing though: I do think you're a prick.
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Re: Michael Bay on Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D Blu-ray Color and Brightness Issues

Postby Bouncy X » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:24 pm

i'm willing to bet whoever can even spot these "problems" are probably really really tech savvy folk. i'm sure most of the general population (myself included) wouldn't even notice it. can't count how often i read reviews about picture problems that i dont notice even after its described.

hell a recent example is the first Lord of the Rings EE, with all this hoopla about "green tinting", i didn't see a thing and it looked the same to me. now thats not saying these issues aren't real, just that 99% of people probably wont notice.

as for this particular case, i do have the 3D package but no 3D tv since i just got it for the extras and have no interested in 3D so least the 2D version is apparently not "broken". lol
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