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Great call there karellan - Same here, I hadn't updated my TV since I got out of the Army in 1997!!!! Yes, I know that's too long but unlike what T-Macksimus thinks us poor people with a family to raise can't seem to do much better!!! Other things are more important. So I got it @ BB for the 3 year pay off deal! I bet people now a days can't even imagine going a day without watching TV, my wife and I went just under 7 years. No antenna, no satellite dish, no TV period! I still have the ancient thing in the bedroom though! LOL! I never in my life imagined it had gotten better after all these years. I live in the sticks here but with the antenna I get 48 channels! Well, most come in all the time according to weather changes, but the picture is awe inspiring. We have talked about when our taxes come back trying to get a satellite dish. So, T-Macksimus, we are not all rich and fancy! It was simply a gift to my family for Christmas. It had the best picture quality, and was affordable. It also was listed as compatible with my Nvidia graphics card. I work on computers, that's what I do. TV I could care less about. But I did do my research before buying this TV. I research everything, that's just me. I understand the argument about it not being full 1080 HD because you only get 1/2 of the signal per eye, because the lines alternate, which would reduce the signal. I get that, but with 14 free pair of glasses with the set, 3 free games with the PS3, great picture and sound, which is compatible with my already owned 1000w sound system, who cares! The trade off is it works perfectly for me and my family! Besides if all else fails, I can up-convert whatever I want to 3D! It is bright, perfect picture quality, 1000 times better than it was in theaters, and these glasses do not give me the massive headache I left with. They are light weight, and don't need to be charged up all the time. Plus, it was affordable! Less than I'd of paid if I'd bought my setup as separate pieces. I plan on paying it off with our tax returns, but for $65 a month without any extra finance fees if paid off within three years, who can argue! All this with the added benefit of being able to watch all three movies in 3D! 1 and 2 up-scaled and the last one just as it was released! Think before you judge there people! Not all of us are out to beat the proverbial "Jones'" here. I for one am already old enough to understand that if you don't jump the gun, but wait on things, everything comes down in price, and there are even better deals after holidays! Patience helps the wallet!!!

Bouncy X wrote:i'm willing to bet whoever can even spot these "problems" are probably really really tech savvy folk. i'm sure most of the general population (myself included) wouldn't even notice it. can't count how often i read reviews about picture problems that i dont notice even after its described.

I still can't see the difference between a DVD and a Blu-Ray.

The only difference I truly see is when you go from 480 to 1080, you get the boxes (pixalization) like on a really crappy .flv video sometimes!!! But with the quality of DVDs now a days, there truly isn't any. Not as noticeable when there is. What little bit there is, is gone in like 1/2 a millisecond as the next frame pops up! The first two movies look great even up-converted quality wise. Honestly, I have watched DOTM multiple times and just can't find what is mentioned. I'll just keep right on watching it, and will probably never see it. Even the regular DVD looks great in HD! So who knows. Maybe Bay is right, it could be their TV is already going bad. I've seen more than a few HD monitors come back, and when I worked at Wal-Mart I seen the TVs come back two or three at a time some days. With all the capacitors in them, they get hot, the caps on them swell up and then one day things go bad, picture dark, etc. Then you come home one day and turn it on and all you get is a black screen. Power light is on, but no one is home!

Ahh Bay, your apologies are so heartfelt

T-Macksimus wrote:I'm laughing my A**off right now (and yes, I'm probably going to come across as an even bigger prick than a lot of you think that Bay is, and I don't care).
Stuff like this is EXACTLY why I have been scoffing at the idea of 3D TV since the beginning. It's too $%&@ early in the development of the technology and, here's the worst part, all of you know it and you still buy the @$#% things because you just HAVE to have the latest, coolest High Tech stuff out there!!! Bunch of freaking lemmings or sheep is what you folks are and you deserve the crap results you wind up with.

I couldn't have said it better myself. 3D is crap right now.

Let me know when I can see something in 3D without those stupid glasses that make everything too dark.