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Is it me or has mentioning Michael Bay become a sort of personality test? It's like as soon as his name is mentioned people with some certain gene get pissed off and start spewing bullcrap from their keyboards before they know whats going on. It's fascinating really, someone should do a study on that.

I do hate the idea of the turtle being aliens. I'd say that's on par with was done to the Mario Bros. movie. But I'm being calm and rational about it.

I've defended Bay through a lot of criticism on this website, but this....

What MIGHT disgust me most, is TMNT changed to Aliens would be TANT. TANT? It sounds like a ebonics/redneck hybrid word!

Hi All,

Now I know how much you guys cherish TF like I do, and there is always debate on the movies and what it did to this wonderful franchise of ours (good or bad). But general consensus is that Michael Bay, treated the franchise without respect.
This is not about TF ,so I don't want to go there.

This is about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
If you grew up in the 80s or 90s, and even the new TMNT shows, you may have strong emotions about the treatment of this also wonderful franchise. A franchise that inspired a generation.

If you haven't heard, Bay is on board for a TMNT movie project, and he's already started by claiming they're gonna be aliens. And asked fans to Chill out!

So I'm asking you all, who have connection with the TMNT universe, to voice your opinions on this. Or else it will end up being like TF. Feeling used and spat on (that's IMO).
The reason I'm bringing this up here, is that we, the TF fans were the first victims. We lost it, we were hit, and it would be worse if we see our little brother get hurt by this menace too.

Transformers 4 having Bay is already an issue.

But please don't allow this to happen to TMNT. I feel the childhood of many will be once again ruined.


If you guys have seen the southpark episode of Indiana Jones being violated by Lucas and Spielberg, and the so true message of that episode. Please don't let that happen to TMNT.

So what can we do to help TMNT fans?


This is an open thread, try not to make it a hate or flamewar. It's meant for support ( I think we need a TF support group btw)

Thanks
Bud

Bah, I ain't gonna complain. I'd go see it. Aliens or not, I'm interested.

I also find it funny and kinda want to give Bay my money as an act of solidarity.

We had different flavors of TMNT, why not alien? From all accounts, this sounds like a new universe, a reboot. I have no problem with that.

He's working with one of the creators, so if that guy's signing off on it, it can't be too bad.

If it were in the same universe, I could see the complaints, but this? Geez.

Hide your childhoods, they're raping everyone!

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And taking into account the TMNT multiverse as established in the Turtles Forever movie, the concept of the Turtles being aliens simply CANNOT work, as all TMNT universes stem from the same source, in which the Turtles are mutated Earth turtles. Making them aliens simply violates the fundamental nature of their existence in this multiverse, otherwise they aren't "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles", but instead are "Teenage Mutant Ninja Aliens" or Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles".

Aliens can't be turtles? We have tons of contradictions in te TF universe. It's fiction, anything can work.

The TMNT themselves can't be aliens if they're all tied to the original Mirage Turtles, who were indeed mutated Earth turtles. Recall when Shredder broke down thew 1987 and 2003 Turtles to their most basic elements to trace their substantial existence back to the Mirage Turtles. If he were to do the same with extraterrestrial TMNT, they wouldn't have those base elements due to not being of a similar nature to the Mirage Turtles. In every incarnation of the TMNT franchse, the Turtles have all been almost the exact same kind of lifeform. Being extraterrestrials would negate that with the ones in this movie.

True, but only if the previous series are regarded. This does not seem to be the case.

Of course the previous media would have to be regarded. Otherwise, they'd be better off making a completely new movie with non-preexisting characters and concepts.

If they want to make a new movie franchise about alien turtles who come to Earth and fight crime as ninjas, then by all means, they should go ahead and do so. Why, make it be a spoof or homage to the TMNT, with little references and such. But don't make it actually BE a TMNT movie, cuz that's not what TMNT is about.

They shouldn't simply rewrite the fundamental aspects of what makes TMNT be TMNT. Take those away, and it's not TMNT anymore. This is knockoff-level of diversity, here. The established origin formula in its most basic form (four baby turtles mutated into giant humanoid turtles who live in the sewers) has worked for every single incarnation of the franchise. If it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

A little change is okay. A lot of change to the point where the entire scheme of things is altered to an unfamiliar level is not okay.

...by you.

If a man-sized turtle (ha-hah) uses ninja skils to take down a robot ninja, I'm going to recognize it as a turtle. Backstory doesn't change that for me.

And again, why is this any more insane then the orginal backstory? It's a new twist on things, Splinter would probably say that change is not to be feared.

From a fellow transformers fan in the Allspark forum:

Dear TMNT Fans,

You have nothing to fear about Michael Bay ruining your precious turtles. Mostly because they will only appear in 15% of the entire TMNT film.
The plot will center mostly around the annoying boy wants girl, girl rejects boy, girl falls for boy, girl and boy banter over who-loves-who romance (insert puke icon)
Don't worry—Splinter will not offer the young lovers sagely advise; he'll be mute.

-censored this part- The most important thing here is that you will see lots of gratuitous panty shots, and slapstick human stupid.
Now that mutant turtles are a 'race', you will be introduced early to a pair or of 'new' turtles: Mario and Luigi, and hilarity will ensue when you laugh at their adorable antics and strangely offensive stereotype excuse-of-a-personalities.
And speaking of personality: Mike, Leo, Don and Ralph won't be doing much of either—speaking, OR personality. But they WILL be super cool and all badass with lots of explosions, shaky cam and dirt.

There will be endless dirt.

Enjoy.

With sympathy,
Your Transformer Fan Friends

Topics merged.

P.S. Still loling at the Bay haters unable to understand the concept of Producer and how it's not their fault, if that were the case we'd be hunting Don Murphy.