RhA wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Of course the previous media would have to be regarded. Otherwise, they'd be better off making a completely new movie with non-preexisting characters and concepts.RhA wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The TMNT themselves can't be aliens if they're all tied to the original Mirage Turtles, who were indeed mutated Earth turtles. Recall when Shredder broke down thew 1987 and 2003 Turtles to their most basic elements to trace their substantial existence back to the Mirage Turtles. If he were to do the same with extraterrestrial TMNT, they wouldn't have those base elements due to not being of a similar nature to the Mirage Turtles. In every incarnation of the TMNT franchse, the Turtles have all been almost the exact same kind of lifeform. Being extraterrestrials would negate that with the ones in this movie.RhA wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And taking into account the TMNT multiverse as established in the Turtles Forever movie, the concept of the Turtles being aliens simply CANNOT work, as all TMNT universes stem from the same source, in which the Turtles are mutated Earth turtles. Making them aliens simply violates the fundamental nature of their existence in this multiverse, otherwise they aren't "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles", but instead are "Teenage Mutant Ninja Aliens" or Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles".
Aliens can't be turtles? We have tons of contradictions in te TF universe. It's fiction, anything can work.
True, but only if the previous series are regarded. This does not seem to be the case.
If they want to make a new movie franchise about alien turtles who come to Earth and fight crime as ninjas, then by all means, they should go ahead and do so. Why, make it be a spoof or homage to the TMNT, with little references and such. But don't make it actually BE a TMNT movie, cuz that's not what TMNT is about.
They shouldn't simply rewrite the fundamental aspects of what makes TMNT be TMNT. Take those away, and it's not TMNT anymore. This is knockoff-level of diversity, here. The established origin formula in its most basic form (four baby turtles mutated into giant humanoid turtles who live in the sewers) has worked for every single incarnation of the franchise. If it's not broken, don't try to fix it.
A little change is okay. A lot of change to the point where the entire scheme of things is altered to an unfamiliar level is not okay.
If a man-sized turtle (ha-hah) uses ninja skils to take down a robot ninja, I'm going to recognize it as a turtle. Backstory doesn't change that for me.
And again, why is this any more insane then the orginal backstory? It's a new twist on things, Splinter would probably say that change is not to be feared.
I'm all for mixing a few things up to keep it fresh, but they're taking the mutant and turtle out of teenage mutant ninja turtles.