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Burn wrote:lol ... fanboys got trolled by Bay.

Do believe I said something like that back on page 1. Still, it was fun watching you all rage.

Still doesn't make Bay look any better. He's seen as either a liar or a hack, so it's a lose-lose situation for him.

Burn wrote:Not really. Because he doesn't care. That's what all that anti-Bayers fail to understand. HE.DOES.NOT.CARE.WHAT.THEY.THINK.ABOUT.HIM.

Hack, liar, egotist, a real gem of a guy, ain't he?

Burn wrote:-edit-

Full interview

Looks like the "co-creator" is none other than Kevin Eastman himself, so not someone who may have been nothing more than a penciller as some have suggested.

Keep raging kids, keep raging.

That article has me feel a little relieved, though I'd be moreso if we had confirmation that just the ooze is alien in origin and not the Turtles.

I guess one could think of them as "aliens" if they were Earth turtles mutated by alien ooze, thinking that the alien ooze turns the Earth turtles *into* "alien turtles", which is the vibe I'm getting from this article. But, technically, that isn't how being an alien works. Being a creature coming from another planet = alien. Being a domestic creature mutated into another form by alien ooze =/= alien. So, maybe they're just using the term loosely rather than literally, which would be a big sign of relief for me.

Consider me now "skeptical" instead of "appalled".

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:There is a third option. Bay wasn't lying, he's just an idiot who wasn't paying attention, half listened to what was going on while he doodled explosions and robot balls in the margins of his script, and then shot his mouth off not realizing he didn't have any idea what he was talking about.

Also possible.

Burn wrote:I agree.

I guess it also makes sense. When you think about it, they're probably trying to make it a little more "believable". An ooze developed on this planet that can mutate things? nyah. But if it was alien in origin, that would be more believable.

So yeah, in a way, they are alien in origin, but the turtles themselves are not from another planet. I think it's a fair thing to do.

It's not just fair, but accurate! The ooze was developed on Earth, but by alien refugees hiding on Earth, disguising themselves as humans. TCRI is short for "Techno Cosmic Research Institute", which is the corporate front of the Utroms' headquarters.

Burn wrote:And maybe Bay wasn't paying attention, or maybe, maybe after all the raging the TF fanboys did, he really does love to troll. (Can't say I blame him considering some of the reactions over the last 4-5 years)

Sooner or later, there's gonna be an official (and more witty) term for Bay's trolling.

Burn wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's not just fair, but accurate! The ooze was developed on Earth, but by alien refugees hiding on Earth, disguising themselves as humans. TCRI is short for "Techno Cosmic Research Institute", which is the corporate front of the Utroms' headquarters.

Well there you go, you learn something every day. I'll admit i'm not a great lore on TMNT as I was hitting the teenage years then and moving into "more grown up" stuff. I watched the movies, maybe watched a cartoon or two here and there but that was it.

So i'm probably the target audience they're looking for. Yay me!

Yeah, the 1987 cartoon ignored this and instead had Shredder be the maker the mutagen ooze.

This backstory comes from the original Mirage Comics, and was later repeated in the 2003 cartoon (both of which were aimed at older audiences than the 1987 cartoon, being darker and more mature, but the 2003 cartoon was still friendly enough to be enjoyed by everyone).

The live movies, however, adapted this backstory to have the ooze be manmade by by the human-run TGRI instead of the Utron-run TCRI (the G standing for "Global" instead), not wanting to involve aliens.


Still, there is the possibility that this is false hope and the Turtles really are alien creature in this movie.