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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:11 pm

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Burn wrote:lol ... fanboys got trolled by Bay.

Do believe I said something like that back on page 1. Still, it was fun watching you all rage. :lol:
Still doesn't make Bay look any better. He's seen as either a liar or a hack, so it's a lose-lose situation for him.
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Burn » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:15 pm

Not really. Because he doesn't care. That's what all that anti-Bayers fail to understand. HE.DOES.NOT.CARE.WHAT.THEY.THINK.ABOUT.HIM.

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Looks like the "co-creator" is none other than Kevin Eastman himself, so not someone who may have been nothing more than a penciller as some have suggested.

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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:20 pm

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I love Michael Bay.

Make 'em squirm!
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Volrathicus Baenimus » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:35 pm

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There is a third option. Bay wasn't lying, he's just an idiot who wasn't paying attention, half listened to what was going on while he doodled explosions and robot balls in the margins of his script, and then shot his mouth off not realizing he didn't have any idea what he was talking about.
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:39 pm

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Burn wrote:Not really. Because he doesn't care. That's what all that anti-Bayers fail to understand. HE.DOES.NOT.CARE.WHAT.THEY.THINK.ABOUT.HIM.
Hack, liar, egotist, a real gem of a guy, ain't he? :P

Burn wrote:-edit-

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Looks like the "co-creator" is none other than Kevin Eastman himself, so not someone who may have been nothing more than a penciller as some have suggested.

Keep raging kids, keep raging.
That article has me feel a little relieved, though I'd be moreso if we had confirmation that just the ooze is alien in origin and not the Turtles.

I guess one could think of them as "aliens" if they were Earth turtles mutated by alien ooze, thinking that the alien ooze turns the Earth turtles *into* "alien turtles", which is the vibe I'm getting from this article. But, technically, that isn't how being an alien works. Being a creature coming from another planet = alien. Being a domestic creature mutated into another form by alien ooze =/= alien. So, maybe they're just using the term loosely rather than literally, which would be a big sign of relief for me.

Consider me now "skeptical" instead of "appalled".

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:There is a third option. Bay wasn't lying, he's just an idiot who wasn't paying attention, half listened to what was going on while he doodled explosions and robot balls in the margins of his script, and then shot his mouth off not realizing he didn't have any idea what he was talking about.
Also possible. :lol:
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Burn » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:45 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I guess one could think of them as "aliens" if they were Earth turtles mutated by alien ooze, thinking that the alien ooze turns the Earth turtles *into* "alien turtles", which is the vibe I'm getting from this article. But, technically, that isn't how being an alien works. Being a creature coming from another planet = alien. Being a domestic creature mutated into another form by alien ooze =/= alien. So, maybe they're just using the term loosely rather than literally, which would be a big sign of relief for me.


I agree.

I guess it also makes sense. When you think about it, they're probably trying to make it a little more "believable". An ooze developed on this planet that can mutate things? nyah. But if it was alien in origin, that would be more believable.

So yeah, in a way, they are alien in origin, but the turtles themselves are not from another planet. I think it's a fair thing to do.

And maybe Bay wasn't paying attention, or maybe, maybe after all the raging the TF fanboys did, he really does love to troll. (Can't say I blame him considering some of the reactions over the last 4-5 years)
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:52 pm

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Burn wrote:I agree.

I guess it also makes sense. When you think about it, they're probably trying to make it a little more "believable". An ooze developed on this planet that can mutate things? nyah. But if it was alien in origin, that would be more believable.

So yeah, in a way, they are alien in origin, but the turtles themselves are not from another planet. I think it's a fair thing to do.
It's not just fair, but accurate! The ooze was developed on Earth, but by alien refugees hiding on Earth, disguising themselves as humans. TCRI is short for "Techno Cosmic Research Institute", which is the corporate front of the Utroms' headquarters. :grin:

Burn wrote:And maybe Bay wasn't paying attention, or maybe, maybe after all the raging the TF fanboys did, he really does love to troll. (Can't say I blame him considering some of the reactions over the last 4-5 years)
Sooner or later, there's gonna be an official (and more witty) term for Bay's trolling. ;) :michaelbay:
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Burn » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:57 pm

Sabrblade wrote:It's not just fair, but accurate! The ooze was developed on Earth, but by alien refugees hiding on Earth, disguising themselves as humans. TCRI is short for "Techno Cosmic Research Institute", which is the corporate front of the Utroms' headquarters. :grin:


Well there you go, you learn something every day. I'll admit i'm not a great lore on TMNT as I was hitting the teenage years then and moving into "more grown up" stuff. I watched the movies, maybe watched a cartoon or two here and there but that was it.

So i'm probably the target audience they're looking for. Yay me!
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:03 pm

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Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's not just fair, but accurate! The ooze was developed on Earth, but by alien refugees hiding on Earth, disguising themselves as humans. TCRI is short for "Techno Cosmic Research Institute", which is the corporate front of the Utroms' headquarters. :grin:


Well there you go, you learn something every day. I'll admit i'm not a great lore on TMNT as I was hitting the teenage years then and moving into "more grown up" stuff. I watched the movies, maybe watched a cartoon or two here and there but that was it.

So i'm probably the target audience they're looking for. Yay me!
Yeah, the 1987 cartoon ignored this and instead had Shredder be the maker the mutagen ooze.

This backstory comes from the original Mirage Comics, and was later repeated in the 2003 cartoon (both of which were aimed at older audiences than the 1987 cartoon, being darker and more mature, but the 2003 cartoon was still friendly enough to be enjoyed by everyone).

The live movies, however, adapted this backstory to have the ooze be manmade by by the human-run TGRI instead of the Utron-run TCRI (the G standing for "Global" instead), not wanting to involve aliens.


Still, there is the possibility that this is false hope and the Turtles really are alien creature in this movie. :-s
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:30 pm

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Mutated by alien ooze? I love the idea. This whole situation has been hilarious. Watching people get so worked up over nothing and making asses of themselves with all their unreasonable Bay hate. I think I'll see this movie opening day just to spite them.
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:39 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:Mutated by alien ooze? I love the idea.
That's how it was originally (and recently).

Evil_the_Nub wrote:This whole situation has been hilarious. Watching people get so worked up over nothing and making asses of themselves with all their unreasonable Bay hate. I think I'll see this movie opening day just to spite them.
My critiques were due to this supposed "the Turtles are aliens" bit was an outright contradiction of the very nature of the Turtles themselves. They can't be the TMNT if they're aliens from another planet. But now that things seem to be in better light, this contradiction seems to be nonexistent, of which I am thankful. :)
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:28 am

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Sabrblade wrote:It's not just fair, but accurate! The ooze was developed on Earth, but by alien refugees hiding on Earth, disguising themselves as humans. TCRI is short for "Techno Cosmic Research Institute", which is the corporate front of the Utroms' headquarters. :grin:


Well there you go, you learn something every day. I'll admit i'm not a great lore on TMNT as I was hitting the teenage years then and moving into "more grown up" stuff. I watched the movies, maybe watched a cartoon or two here and there but that was it.

So i'm probably the target audience they're looking for. Yay me!

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And yes they use their weapons the way they're intended to be. Their origin is also tied in with daredevil's, which I have to say is actually pretty funny.
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:50 pm

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Burn wrote:lol ... fanboys got trolled by Bay.

Do believe I said something like that back on page 1. Still, it was fun watching you all rage. :lol:
Still doesn't make Bay look any better. He's seen as either a liar or a hack, so it's a lose-lose situation for him.


I don't see it that way at all. I see it as a bunch of fan boys making their own conclusions. Which is fine. But then when its starts to come out that things aren't going to be what they (the fanboys) thought, they still want to castrate him. BUt your right about one thing... its a lose-lose- situation for him. Just being envloved is enough for people to hate. He'll be damned if he does, and he'll be damned if he doesn't. This movie could be an absolute bomb and people will point all the blame on Bay and Bay alone. BUt if it does great, critics and fans alike aprove, and everyone will make claims that Bay had nothing to do with its success and it was all the director.

And on the whole..
"Bay is lieing as ussual". He just wants all of us to get upset on purpose!"
Well if that's the case, then why did you take his word in the first place?
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Shadowman » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:54 pm

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Burn wrote:lol ... fanboys got trolled by Bay.

Do believe I said something like that back on page 1. Still, it was fun watching you all rage. :lol:
Still doesn't make Bay look any better. He's seen as either a liar or a hack, so it's a lose-lose situation for him.


He was trolling, you took the bait. Now that it's been pointed out to you, you're raging even harder. If anyone is losing here, it's you.

And he's neither a liar nor a hack (Well, obviously the last one varies from film to film), he's something else entirely.
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Re: Michael Bay RUINZ Ninja Turtlez!!!1!!11one!!eleven!!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:05 pm

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Burn wrote:lol ... fanboys got trolled by Bay.

Do believe I said something like that back on page 1. Still, it was fun watching you all rage. :lol:
Still doesn't make Bay look any better. He's seen as either a liar or a hack, so it's a lose-lose situation for him.


He was trolling, you took the bait. Now that it's been pointed out to you, you're raging even harder. If anyone is losing here, it's you.

And he's neither a liar nor a hack (Well, obviously the last one varies from film to film), he's something else entirely.
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