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Sorry, but that's hilarious. Where exactly did I say that Bay was a good director?
I just said I'd rather watch Bay's TF movies over Nolan's Batman trilogy.
Want me to elaborate? Nolan's Batman trilogy was boring. The only redeeming factor in all three movies was Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker. He was absolutely brilliant. Everything else? Boring.
Again, MY opinion. It's not open for debate whether I'm right or wrong. That is just how I feel.
Is Bay a good director? Well he's a better director than anyone in this fandom. And I personally feel that he was, and is, the right person for the job. Giant **** robots beating the crap out of each other ... that's gonna require some big explosions and lots of action scenes which the man is known for. It's his "thing".
But what amazes me about how every time I speak up in defense of the movies, there's at least ten other people out there quick to jump on me about it, not one of you people EVER bring up the writers.
You're all so quick to blame Bay. He's not the one who wrote the story. He was given a manuscript and said "here, work your magic on it".
You want to blame Bay for the movies being bad? Hey go for it, but don't forget to blame the writers as well.
If that's a response to me, let me clarify. I never was saying that you said specificaly Bay was a good director. yes I qouted you, but my whole response wasn't ment to be based on your qoute entirely.
I was using your qoute as an example, and I'm trying to keep my posts brief, but it's hard as someone is always going to find fault or missinterperate something so I am always trying to cover every angle, but then people won't read it all, and rah rah rah you get my point.
You just brought up a very good point, why don't people ever blame the writer? You are totaly right bay isn't the person who comes up with all the ideas, bay is definently not the person who designs the transformers, the sets etc.
The thing is Bay is the director, and he ha sthe final say and on top of that he will tell the writers the direction he wants to go and take the story. Everyone in the creative department is just doing what Bay wants to bring his vision to life.
He wasn't given a manuscript and said work with it, he is given a script and he will turn it down and say to writers to start over or make changes here and there. But your point about Bay not being the person who comes up with the details is right, maybe all the deisgners and writers never came up with anything better. But the thing is I have seen the concept art and some of the earlier designs were much better.
I've not got a problem with you liking Bays work, but to say that no one in the fandom is a better director than Bay is so wrong it's untrue. For a start, do you know who I am and what I do, let alone anyone else. There are loads of professionals in the fandom, have you not seeen the fan made creations, art, models, animations, stories. I'm a designer by trade so I know alot about what goes on behind the scenes in the creative industry. But there are fans out there who are not professionals and they produce things in there spare time that I am in awe of. There is alot of talent in the fandom, and I'm sure that there are some up and coming directors within, and there are those that will never be a director, but definently have the sense and know how to put Bay to shame.
Finaly just becuase Transformers are fighting robots so explosions are a given and bay is known for explosions. Remeber what you said about blaming the writers, well Bay can't take credit for the explosions, as thats the pyrotechnic team, yes Bay directs the sequence and where the explosions take place, but he ruins it all by super fast editing so you can't take in and appreciate all the detail and effort. The reason why people are so upset is not becuase Bay didn't deliver with all the explosions, it's becuase of everything else.
If transformers was just about explosions and fighting robots, then the franchise would not have lasted so long. Transformers has depth and so many layers to it. There are deep storylines that are constantly evolving, have you not seen all the comics out there.
