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Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:55 am
by Tekka
This bit of news could mean any number of things though. There could be new designs, but multiples of each one, creating lots. Like a big Matrix style Burly Brawl scene. It all depends on how he defines "lots".

Oh well, it doesn't really give us much insight.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:14 am
by Terrorcon Blot
So much needless Michael Bay hate in this thread! Goodness...and here I thought the wait until Transformers 2 would be DIFFERENT. But no, we're already seeing cursing, death threats, whining and sarcasm from the fandom hearing ONE sentence.

Don't ever change guys, it's almost hilarious.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:07 am
by doomboy536
Wow, so many of you are whiney freaks. I'm sure he gets a good lol out of how people throw themselves into despair and undertake ridiculous displays of idiocy after one small statement.

Personally, I have every faith in the man. He gave us an awesome film that revitalised the franchise in a huge way and brought lots of new fans on board. Well done sir, keep up the good work and have a Happy New Year! :APPLAUSE:

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:17 am
by Hard Hacker
doomboy536 wrote:Wow, so many of you are whiney freaks. I'm sure he gets a good lol out of how people throw themselves into despair and undertake ridiculous displays of idiocy after one small statement.

Personally, I have every faith in the man. He gave us an awesome film that revitalised the franchise in a huge way and brought lots of new fans on board. Well done sir, keep up the good work and have a Happy New Year! :APPLAUSE:


Well said sir.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:29 am
by Black Bumblebee
As long as the robots get more, or equal, air time as their human counterparts, I'll be happy.

Oh, and keep the hackers from part 1 away. Please?

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:29 am
by MYoung23
Unique probably means more crappy and horrible Starscream, Megatron and Frenzy-esque designs

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:45 am
by Skowl
Sarri wrote:
Skowl wrote:
Orion_Prime48 wrote:Its hard to tell whats true and and whats false with info regarding tf2 right now


It's easy:

If Michael Bay, or any of the people involved in the movie, say something - IT'S LEGIT.

If something is LEAKED, it's a RUMOUR until we have official proof that proves it's legitimacy.

So wait, if everything Michael Bay says is legit, that means this news is legit, too. Which leaves us with ... rumours?


Read what Bay said, he said he was "going to leak a lot of false information all over the place."

If he SAYS something it's true because he's basically making an official statement. This isn't someone hacking into the ILM mainframe and stealing stuff. If it comes from the man himself, it's legit. If you don't know where it comes from, it's a rumour!

There is a fundamental difference between a STATEMENT and a LEAK.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:36 am
by Liege Evilmus
Jaz-Zen wrote:I have mixed feelings about TF2. On the one hand, based on how Hasbro has milked the Movie line so far, if TF2 has lots of TFs, then maybe each one will only be repainted once, instead of, what, 4 or 5 times?? :P But on the other hand, lots of TFs may just mean EVEN MORE characters to repaint a million times. :?

I DO wonder if all the surviving TFs from the first Movie will be in TF2, as well as a whole bunch of new TFs, and if they are, if they'll have the same vehicle modes? It seems unlikely. I mean, Movie Bumblebee (Camaro) is awesome, but I doubt that Hasbro will want to release the same figure again, since "everyone" will already have at least one version from the first Movie.


I agree that the repaints are redundant, but it's not like you have to get them.

Your dollar is your vote, if you spend it on a figure, that tells Hasbro "OK lets do more of that", don't spend it and they'll be less prone to keep doing something.

Now if we can just get through to the completionists, and gift givers who don't know any better, maybe one day they'll take a hint. You know repaints have always been around, but each line just seems to be getting more and more reliant upon them than new figures.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:33 am
by Sonray
Nice to hear from the fella again. Im sure that they wont lie about things like release dates and such as they need to share such info to get the hype machine rolling. Im sure when he meant they would lie about stuff he meant plot details, who the new characters will be etc etc.

I cant wait to find out who the new bots will be and how many.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:35 am
by Auto Bot
I hope this is not one of those sure-fire misleading tricks of wise-crack Michael again.. (A scheme that berates and insults the fans.)

Michael should wise up, give respect for ordinary mortals, and learn to be truthful.

My circuits still sizzles when i remember Michael happily revealing his misleading schemes. :-x

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:37 am
by Tekka
Auto Bot wrote:My circuits still sizzles when i remember Michael happily revealing his misleading schemes. :-x

You should start busting some Bay chops!

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:41 am
by Auto Bot
Tekka wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:My circuits still sizzles when i remember Michael happily revealing his misleading schemes. :-x

You should start busting some Bay chops!


I want you to make a special run to Hollywood city.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:44 am
by Tekka
Auto Bot wrote:
Tekka wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:My circuits still sizzles when i remember Michael happily revealing his misleading schemes. :-x

You should start busting some Bay chops!


I want you to make a special run to Hollywood city.

Your days are numbered now Paramountcreeps!

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:02 pm
by Auto Bot
Going back to the topic... (before complaints pile up against our famous cliches..)

"there are a lot of them this time. " is not a very reassuring line. (Especially coming from a liar.)

A lot can mean a dozen, for you and me. Maybe even a battalion.

But it can also mean 2 to 3 new guys with a lot of new parts or dizzying sizes.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:59 pm
by Sonray
Auto Bot wrote:I hope this is not one of those sure-fire misleading tricks of wise-crack Michael again.. (A scheme that berates and insults the fans.)

Michael should wise up, give respect for ordinary mortals, and learn to be truthful.

My circuits still sizzles when i remember Michael happily revealing his misleading schemes. :-x


How does it insult or berate the fans? The guy just wants his project to remain a secret, so does the studio. Its no worse than people hacking his computer, a crime, to get info on the film and share it illegally with us. And what about the death threats? Berating and insulting the "fans"?..pfft dont make me laugh...

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:43 pm
by Sarri
Skowl wrote:
Sarri wrote:
Skowl wrote:
It's easy:

If Michael Bay, or any of the people involved in the movie, say something - IT'S LEGIT.

If something is LEAKED, it's a RUMOUR until we have official proof that proves it's legitimacy.

So wait, if everything Michael Bay says is legit, that means this news is legit, too. Which leaves us with ... rumours?


Read what Bay said, he said he was "going to leak a lot of false information all over the place."

If he SAYS something it's true because he's basically making an official statement.

If he is leaking information, wouldn't he need to be the one giving that information, which may or may not be true?

That there will be new robots is a forgone conclusion, they need the Wow-effect these robots will bring and Hasbro wants to sell more toys (and sometime the variants don't sell anymore). I'd be surprised if there actually weren't any new charactes.

But otherwise, I think, Bay will knowingly or unknowingly give false information which will later be written off as those "wrong leaks" he promised. It's actually an easy way to keep face and keep the fans docile, because everything they don't like, will be written off as "wrong leak" till the movie actually comes out.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:34 pm
by Auto Bot
Sonray wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:I hope this is not one of those sure-fire misleading tricks of wise-crack Michael again.. (A scheme that berates and insults the fans.)

Michael should wise up, give respect for ordinary mortals, and learn to be truthful.

My circuits still sizzles when i remember Michael happily revealing his misleading schemes. :-x


How does it insult or berate the fans? The guy just wants his project to remain a secret, so does the studio. Its no worse than people hacking his computer, a crime, to get info on the film and share it illegally with us. And what about the death threats? Berating and insulting the "fans"?..pfft dont make me laugh...


Then make is a secret. I have nothing against that. In fact, i agree to the secrecy.

But not to the creating of misleading items.

And if this crazy scheme is meant as a revenge for the death threats, it's unnecessary. He shouldn't stoop so low.

You can't fight evil with another evil.

Just stay your course. Do the right thing. Don't go down and do the dirty fights just because some fan started it.

He's a big guy. Stay big and respectable.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:03 pm
by Sonray
Hes not doing it as some sort of "revenge" he is trying to keep things secret and this is the way to do it. Fight fire with fire. If he releases info then that will stop paparazzi TF nerds trying to hack his computer or whatever to get some new info.

This way the fans get a taste for things to come but simply wont know for certain which IMO is doing them a good deed because they wont have everything spoiled for them, and people like me who want to be left in the dark and not have the movie totally spoiled for us by obsessive compulsive TF fans with nothing better to do will have nothing to worry about.

This also helps the hype machine immensely and will eventually result in even bigger box office takings which will help with further sequels which means new toys for us to collect.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:57 pm
by Auto Bot
Just keep it a secret. Simple. Period.

It's uncalled for to trick people. Especially fans.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:35 pm
by Zombie Starscream
By "a lot," I hope he means a nice tidy number, say around five. Two more jetcons, one motorcyclebot, and two more carbots should do nicely. :grin:

What I hope he changes is giving more time to the robots. I don't want to see a ton of human scenes unless its the military, and I am not interested in seeing Sam and Mikaela make out. If they are in it, they had better be adding something to the movie.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:41 pm
by Sonray
Auto Bot wrote:Just keep it a secret. Simple. Period.

It's uncalled for to trick people. Especially fans.


I dont see why...this sort of thing happens all the time with movies, so why all the attention on just this one?

Do you think Bay gives a crap about the fans? No. He is just doing his job and by the sounds of it he simply enjoys working with the source material so he wants to make more, that and anything with the TF name on it will make a shedload of money. He doesnt care about fans, he doesnt have any sort of sentimental connection to the source material like we do. He just wants to do his job and have fun and earn a living and the studio just want to make a crapload of money again. This is the movie business, thats how things work.

If anything we owe Bay after the shameful way that "fans" have acted towards him and his work.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:34 pm
by NightFall
Well, I don't care anymore how the bots are going to look like because Bay will make them very ugly and unrecognizable, but I'm excited to see the second movie! :)

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:49 pm
by Stormrider
Oh great, more robots that I can't see clearly. :|

I wonder if the Decepticons will get personalities this time around (aside from Megatron & Frenzy).

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:29 am
by Auto Bot
Sonray wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:Just keep it a secret. Simple. Period.

It's uncalled for to trick people. Especially fans.


I dont see why...this sort of thing happens all the time with movies, so why all the attention on just this one?

Do you think Bay gives a crap about the fans? No. He is just doing his job and by the sounds of it he simply enjoys working with the source material so he wants to make more, that and anything with the TF name on it will make a shedload of money. He doesnt care about fans, he doesnt have any sort of sentimental connection to the source material like we do. He just wants to do his job and have fun and earn a living and the studio just want to make a crapload of money again. This is the movie business, thats how things work.

If anything we owe Bay after the shameful way that "fans" have acted towards him and his work.


You hit the bullseye.

"Do you think Bay gives a crap about the fans? ... He doesnt care about fans, he doesnt have any sort of sentimental connection to the source material like we do."

I couldn't have said it better.

Thanks.

Re: Michael Bay: Transformers 2 Coming Soon with Lots of New, Un

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:30 am
by Auto Bot
I hope "a lot" means in addition to the existing bots of TF1.

And not, "a lot" replacing almost entirely the known bots of TF1.