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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Agamemnon » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:35 pm

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Autobot Genocide wrote:Thanks guys . it's a shame Talon hasn't ran like the pre-orders he's the one i'm looking forward to most.

There was a big design issue with Talon, and if I remember correctly, he went through a complete re-design. That's one of the reasons for the delay.

In reading Blurrz's response in the not-Computron thread, it made me realize that MMC may be the first company to put out a combiner figure that doesn't have to have fixes released later, and my not ever have an add-on. (Though, does Felisaber count as an addon? :-? ) It is readilly apparent that MMC is more concerned with putting out a quality product than rushing figures to market. I really like and respect that!


Can you explain more? What were the fixes or add-ons for Green Giant or MakeToys Menasor?

I guess I was thinking about TFC in particular. I didn't get Giant. Was there an add-on set? Did they have some QC issues? If not, I'll apologize to MakeToys as they would be the first. (I did get MakeToys G2 Tanker add-on and that was decent, though I had problems with the LED setup.)

Unique Toys seemed to have issues with the Predaking parts so far.

MakeToys Menasor? I only thought FP was putting out Menasor and they are not done yet.

I think that's it for the combiners, except for the FP add-ons, which I was not referring to at all.

My overall point is that I love the fact that MMC is taking the time to get this stuff right. We could have had a bad Talon right now, or we can wait and get a Talon done right.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Blurrz » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:00 pm

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MMC definitely takes their time for quality. Hexatron was released this month but they had that prototype in probably the 2nd last stage before full on paint back in.. October 2011. So Oct 2011 -> July 2013 is more than just paint, but fixing QC and making that thing perfect so we don't have to deal with mass QC. They definitely learned from their mistake with Knight Morpher Commander.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Stormrider » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:05 pm

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The robot legs seem awfully thick. Seems like the robot legs could have been aesthetically thinner than they currently are.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Stormrider » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:17 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
Stormrider wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:Thanks guys . it's a shame Talon hasn't ran like the pre-orders he's the one i'm looking forward to most.

There was a big design issue with Talon, and if I remember correctly, he went through a complete re-design. That's one of the reasons for the delay.

In reading Blurrz's response in the not-Computron thread, it made me realize that MMC may be the first company to put out a combiner figure that doesn't have to have fixes released later, and my not ever have an add-on. (Though, does Felisaber count as an addon? :-? ) It is readilly apparent that MMC is more concerned with putting out a quality product than rushing figures to market. I really like and respect that!


Can you explain more? What were the fixes or add-ons for Green Giant or MakeToys Menasor?

I guess I was thinking about TFC in particular. I didn't get Giant. Was there an add-on set? Did they have some QC issues? If not, I'll apologize to MakeToys as they would be the first. (I did get MakeToys G2 Tanker add-on and that was decent, though I had problems with the LED setup.)

Unique Toys seemed to have issues with the Predaking parts so far.

MakeToys Menasor? I only thought FP was putting out Menasor and they are not done yet.

I think that's it for the combiners, except for the FP add-ons, which I was not referring to at all.

My overall point is that I love the fact that MMC is taking the time to get this stuff right. We could have had a bad Talon right now, or we can wait and get a Talon done right.



Yes, you are right - Fansproject is Menasor. I was confusing FansProject and MakeToys projects.

I agree, TFC does seem to have add on sets and QC issues more than what I would like. The add on sets make me a bit upset. Doesn't seem right that after spending $400 - 500 on the whole set and a little sad that the head molds and weapons don't look quite right; they come along with the add on set to make it better. It seems like a nice way to make things better, but in my opinion, if it folks didn't like the look from the beginning, why not change the design, instead of trying to make more money afterwards.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby That Bot » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:53 am

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That Bot wrote:http://www.mastermind-creations.com/collection.html
If this is still accurate, the order is:
Bovis
Leo Dux
Fortis
Talon
Tigris
Felisaber

MMC just announced on their Facebook page that they are adjusting the schedule.
Bovis (Tantrum): September 15, 2013
Leo Dux (Razorclaw): October 30, 2013
Fortis (Headstrong): November 30, 2013
Talon (Divebomb): December 15, 2013
Tigris (Rampage): Q1 2014
Felisaber (Catilla?): Q1 2014

I also found this image of Felisaber on the info page. To my knowledge, it's the first picture of him in any capacity, though I'm probably wrong and I just missed any prior pictures that were posted.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Agamemnon » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:53 am

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Thanks for the update, That Bot. I'm really glad I shipped my POL before waiting on Bovis.

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I suddenly have an urge to get this guy and call him Dennis Leary. :lol: The colors definitely scream Saber-tooth Cat and are a great way to differentiate from Tigris. However, the colors are enough different from Talon that I am unsure of replacing the arm. Maybe I just buy two Tigris figures. I would love to see some pics of Feral Rex both with the more traditional config and with Felisaber/full Talon backpack to help make the decision.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Arctorro » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:34 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:I suddenly have an urge to get this guy and call him Dennis Leary. :lol:
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I was getting the urge to buy him as well and that comment made it stronger! Damn you for being funny :P

Agamemnon wrote:The colors definitely scream Saber-tooth Cat and are a great way to differentiate from Tigris. However, the colors are enough different from Talon that I am unsure of replacing the arm. Maybe I just buy two Tigris figures. I would love to see some pics of Feral Rex both with the more traditional config and with Felisaber/full Talon backpack to help make the decision.
Has there been any word on Tigris/Felisaber being used as the backpack? They have the connecting piece after all. Just a matter of whether or not they have the connectors for the wings. Kinda defeats the purpose of not having to remove Talon's wings, but might be an option for a beefier Predaking without the mismatched colours.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby xyl360 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:30 am

I just finished cancelling all of my preorders for MMC's Predaking figures. After seeing TFC's offerings so far and realizing that (to me) TFC's look superior in every mode to what MMC has to offer, I made the decision to cancel rather than getting both as I'd originally intended to do. What would have changed my mind would have been if MMC's looked superior in any mode at all, but in beast mode, bot mode, and what I have discerned of combined mode, TFC's seems better in every way to me. If MMC had listened when people like me complained about the legs/feet, it would have helped, but they didn't.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

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Sorry to see you go. I hope you enjoy your Predaking. :)
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Arctorro » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:58 pm

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xyl360 wrote:If MMC had listened when people like me complained about the legs/feet, it would have helped, but they didn't.
What was the complaint? I couldn't be bothered sifting through all the pages in the thread.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby That Bot » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:10 pm

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I believe his complaint is that the animal legs are too spindly while the robot and combined legs are too beefy. If the beast hind legs (mainly on Tantrum and Headstrong) could push in or fold behind the figure to make the legs a little thinner, he would have been happier.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby megatronus » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:12 pm

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xyl360 wrote:If MMC had listened when people like me complained about the legs/feet, it would have helped, but they didn't.
What was the complaint? I couldn't be bothered sifting through all the pages in the thread.


I saw some comments, but nothing in the form of formal complaints. MMC is responsive on their Facebook page, and at the very least they are likely to address concerns directly via that medium.

The more I see color shots, the less bothered I am by the legs. They just sort of blend in, and the beefy base is growing on me.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Arctorro » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:16 pm

Motto: ""A beast form is the right of all sentient beings.""
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That Bot wrote:I believe his complaint is that the animal legs are too spindly while the robot and combined legs are too beefy. If the beast hind legs (mainly on Tantrum and Headstrong) could push in or fold behind the figure to make the legs a little thinner, he would have been happier.
I can see people not liking the beast legs :-?

Folding the hind legs on Tantrum and Headstrong is something I would've liked to see as well. The recent reviews show why that can't happen, and the comparison image with Herc and Giant where Feral Rex's legs are extended make up for it IMO. Can still see why some wouldn't like the extra bulk though.

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xyl360 wrote:If MMC had listened when people like me complained about the legs/feet, it would have helped, but they didn't.
What was the complaint? I couldn't be bothered sifting through all the pages in the thread.


I saw some comments, but nothing in the form of formal complaints. MMC is responsive on their Facebook page, and at the very least they are likely to address concerns directly via that medium.

The more I see color shots, the less bothered I am by the legs. They just sort of blend in, and the beefy base is growing on me.
Yeah, I remember (sorta) some comments, but couldn't remember any major backlash about them. The beefy base is looking better all the time :D
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby megatronus » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:33 pm

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Arctorro wrote:Yeah, I remember (sorta) some comments, but couldn't remember any major backlash about them. The beefy base is looking better all the time :D


Definitely! Especially now that I've got Hexatron in hand (sorry, I know I'm rubbing it in a little), I'm psyched to get the Feral Cons in hand. The quality, size, and really nice neo-TF-esque aesthetic are really doing it for me.

From what I've seen of Ares, I'll definitely take those animal alt-modes, but the robot modes are just so "meh" to me. And if the proportions are anything like Uranos... well, let's just say I'm excited for Feral Rex!

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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Arctorro » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:14 pm

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Arctorro wrote:Yeah, I remember (sorta) some comments, but couldn't remember any major backlash about them. The beefy base is looking better all the time :D


Definitely! Especially now that I've got Hexatron in hand (sorry, I know I'm rubbing it in a little), I'm psyched to get the Feral Cons in hand. The quality, size, and really nice neo-TF-esque aesthetic are really doing it for me.

From what I've seen of Ares, I'll definitely take those animal alt-modes, but the robot modes are just so "meh" to me. And if the proportions are anything like Uranos... well, let's just say I'm excited for Feral Rex!

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Feel free to keep rubbing it in (within reason :P ), it builds the excitement for when I finally ship my PoL :D

As for Ares proportions, I would be fine if he is like Uranos. It is the individual modes that I do not like. Razor-claw is just gigantic compared to the others Preds, with every other combiner team I like it, but the Preds need to be a bit closer in size to each other. Not to mention the aesthetics of the Feralcons just appeal to me more.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby megatronus » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:59 pm

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Arctorro wrote:As for Ares proportions, I would be fine if he is like Uranos. It is the individual modes that I do not like. Razor-claw is just gigantic compared to the others Preds, with every other combiner team I like it, but the Preds need to be a bit closer in size to each other. Not to mention the aesthetics of the Feralcons just appeal to me more.


I forgot about internal scale - that's a whole other issue with Ares! I agree, MMC is definitely trying to keep it all within reason for the individual bots.
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Postby That Bot » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:00 am

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I appreciate MMC's efforts to keep Razorclaw close to scale with the others. It's pretty impressive what they've done to keep him proportional in bot and torso modes.
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Arctorro » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:11 am

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That Bot wrote:I appreciate MMC's efforts to keep Razorclaw close to scale with the others. It's pretty impressive what they've done to keep him proportional in bot and torso modes.
It is impressive isn't it, that's why I'm hoping MMC do the Terrorcons next :D
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby megatronus » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:20 am

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daimchoc wrote:http://lavenx.blogspot.cz/2013/08/mmc-feral-rex-bovis.html


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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Agamemnon » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:24 am

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Johnny Cash and others singing wrote:An old cowboy went riding out one dark and windy day
Upon a ridge he rested as he went along his way
When all at once a mighty herd of red eyed cows he saw
A-plowing through the ragged sky and up the cloudy draw

Their brands were still on fire and their hooves were made of steel
Their horns were black and shiny and their hot breath he could feel
A bolt of fear went through him as they thundered through the sky
For he saw the Riders coming hard and he heard their mournful cry

Yippie yi Ohhhhh
Yippie yi yaaaaay
Ghost Riders in the sky


I want to get like 20 of Bovis and hang them from the ceiling in my office. :twisted:
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Re: MMC's Ferocicons - Feral Rex (Predaking) is coming!

Postby Mkall » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:09 am

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Johnny Cash and others singing wrote:An old cowboy went riding out one dark and windy day
Upon a ridge he rested as he went along his way
When all at once a mighty herd of red eyed cows he saw
A-plowing through the ragged sky and up the cloudy draw

Their brands were still on fire and their hooves were made of steel
Their horns were black and shiny and their hot breath he could feel
A bolt of fear went through him as they thundered through the sky
For he saw the Riders coming hard and he heard their mournful cry

Yippie yi Ohhhhh
Yippie yi yaaaaay
Ghost Riders in the sky


I want to get like 20 of Bovis and hang them from the ceiling in my office. :twisted:

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