as far as it goes and this is what i can interpret how the continuity goes:
Season 1/Fight Super Robot Life
Season 2/ " "*
Scramble City (really a filler for the Japanese episodes, but does partially explain the introduction of Magnus & the rest of the Movie/Season 3 cast. Although it would be wise to note, especially to the more enigmatic of the forum, that Galvatron - Cast as a reformatted Megatron in the Movie - shows up as a regual rank and file trooper/New Lieutennant to Megatron in the First part of the short feature. AND, in other news, the second part of Scramble City was really a stop motion toy featurette that was pretty much a marketing slogan - or just a 15/20 minute stop motion advert)
Season 3 (Transformers 2010)
Season 4 (Rebirth Mini Movie)
The Headmasters (Japanese Season 4)
Super God Masterforce (Japanese Season 5)
Victory (Japanese Season 6 - The final G1 animated season)
Cartoon-wise, this is how the G1 continuities are officially laid out:U.S. G1 cartoon continuity
TF The Movie
Season 5 (Optimus and Tommy scenes only)Japanese G1 cartoon continuity
Scramble City: Hatsudō Hen
TF The Movie (Japanese dub)
And that's only counting cartoons and movies. When you add in the supplementary material like manga and such, you get a ginormous amount of stuff in these timelines. But, after Zone came the non-cartoon franchises of:
Return of Convoy
Baneblade wrote:The japanese phased out the fourth season because they had their own headmasters - and a better line to it too because it makes better sense for there to be mini robots with big bodies. I certainly had a bit of a time of it - especially that I'm older (and because it wasn't explained how the head-forming worked, until Masterforce made it more plausible with the Masterforce Bands) - trying to figure it out.
The phased out The Rebirth because they heard it was only going to be three episodes long, and they wanted to keep going. So, they created their own series instead.
They still dubbed The Rebirth into Japanese for the home video releases, but they didn't air it on TV.
Baneblade wrote:In terms of continuity, the japanese tailored their episodes to be more cohesive in terms of story arc, so in the long-run, if someone was killed off in the series, or written off in the movie, the Japanese made sure that it carried on with the future episodes of the series.
Some characters who died in the G1 movie (like Ironhide and Prowl), show up alive in certain episodes of The Headmasters. The Japanese didn't get the G1 movie until 1989. The only deaths they were aware of in that film were Optimus, Megatron (reformatted as Galvatron), and Starscream. While the Japanese dub of "Dark Awakening" (Kage no Convoy
, "Convoy's Shadow") did list off the same deceased Autobots as those mentioned yb Daniel in the English version, apparently someone goofed and forgot that, despite not getting the movie in 1986, Ironhide, Prowl, etc. had been mentioned as being dead. Whoops.
Baneblade wrote:That being said however, they didn't end G1 by not producing any more animated episodes, but they had a wealth of information in the literature (during and following the series that they had), and especially after the final episode for Victory where they went on to bring back Prime/Convoy as Star Convoy - Battlestars I beleive its called - with Rodimus Prime becoming his micro-master companion (The appearance of the first Minicon Companion perhaps?), and they went from there with another manga only series - i think it was Zone with the introduction of Dai Atlas, and then finally we had Gen2.
After Victory came Zone, then Return of Convoy (A.K.A. The Battlestars), then Operation Combination, and then G-2 (as opposed to the American "G2").
Baneblade wrote:Is it me or do the japanese have a better grasp of story structures for a toy promotional line? Ok lets take Beast Wars, Beast Machines and the recent Transformers Prime out of the equation as they were definately more story/event driven because they took what happened in previous episodes and ran with it to drive the later episodes!
Super Link (Energon) would disagree with you.
However, SabrBlade, do you think the American release of the "Japanese Three" would be superior to the UK/Austrailian releases? Ok I will give you that there is the time to learn from the Mistakes of the previous releases, but what do you think would make it a superior version?
Not looking for a war, just your thoughts on why? Or is there something you know that your not telling us?
The U.s. DVDs? Superior?
SLAG, NO!!! The U.S. DVDs are hardly what I'd call "superior" to those released by the UK and Australia! The only thing they got going for them is that the U.S. DVDs seemed to have fixed a few errors made by the subtitles of the UK/AU DVDs. In every other regard, however, the UK/AU DVDs beat the snot
out of the U.S. DVDs! I despise
the subtitles of the U.S. DVDs, for their being so ethnocentric, xenophobic, and unjustly bigoted!
crazyray wrote:this is making my brain hurt
you don't know the half of it.