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Postby Gryphman » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:15 pm

AceBaur Prime wrote:To me Prime looks like a cross between cybertron prime and optimus primal. especially in the legs. The other thing that puzzles me is why are their alt molds look basically identical. Aside from the details they are the same basic shape. That being said, they do look pretty cool, although they still need some work. Which since I think these are prototypes they are headed in the right direction.


Screamers head is still ugly though :shock:


The reason their alt forms look the same is because it's supposed to be a common form they all take when traveling to a different planet.
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Postby Lord_Loqi » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:38 am

I wonder how starscream would look with a battlestar galactica logo on the side?
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:50 am

Gryph wrote:The reason their alt forms look the same is because it's supposed to be a common form they all take when traveling to a different planet.


That makes sense but it sort of defeats the purpose of Transformers doesn't it... since some of they're abilities are based on they're alt modes
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:28 am

AceBaur Prime wrote:
Gryph wrote:The reason their alt forms look the same is because it's supposed to be a common form they all take when traveling to a different planet.


That makes sense but it sort of defeats the purpose of Transformers doesn't it... since some of they're abilities are based on they're alt modes


they dont have thier "common" alt modes yet.. these figures are before the alt modes are are commonly used to ... pre jet , pre semi ..
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Postby J.T.Silversmith » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:27 pm

I found these new toys to be rather interesting on several levels. I like the chance to see where the earth mode robot designs are coming from so to speak. The Protoform version of Prime (and Starscream) has many elements from the more "traditional" look of the character, and design wise they do make a good "bridge" between Cybertron and Classics Prime, and the movie one. In Seibertron.com I saw a digi-paint of these two in traditional colors, and they do really look good that way. I think if I had seen these versions first, the movie versions would not have looked quite so "out there". And I wouldn't have reacted quite so badly to them.
Another reason I find them interesting is I have a little more hope for the movie versions after seeing these, the pictures of the earth mode robots we have seen are still "work in progress". These are finalized designs, and may represent the way the final earth modes will look on a few details that were bugging me. I really disliked the earth mode Prime's face, and I actually like his face in this version. I also hate the proportions of Starscream in robot mode, and here his proportions are much better, so I have a little hope.
Also these seem to be a first look at final toy designs, and it may give us a glimpse of the quality of the other toys, and I actually like what I see. They seem to be very articulate and reasonably detailed, which is all good.
Last is the oft criticized alt modes, and here I am going to surprise myself a little, and say I actually kind of like them. I think it is hard to judge what they look like because the perspective in the picture is extremely foreshortened, so they are going to be longer than they look, though it is hard to say exactly how long they are. I "think" they are actually more like a blunt nosed helicopter in proportion rather than rock with a tail. I think the windows and "wheels" on Prime aren't as out of place as some people might think. In close up of the side of the legs there are three black "wheels" the one on the thigh and calf, and a small one near the knee. The one on the knee is a functional wheel that lets the toy roll in alt mode, and Starscream has them as well. I think they are like the small wheels on most tank transformers, only there so kids can push it across the floor. The "wheels" on the thigh and calf are not actually round, they are flattened ovals, and I think they are meant to mimic the "thrusters" (or maglev or anti gravity pods or whatever they were supposed to be) on the bottom of the ships in "The Matrix". I think Primes alt mode is a cross between a ship from "The Matrix" and those little space pods from the recent "Planet of the Apes". It is implied in the text on the back of the cards that this alternate form is used to let the transformers arrive on Earth undetected by mimicking a meteor. Starscream's alt mode also has obvious control surfaces, air intakes and such, so they both seem to be actual vehicular forms, and not just an alien space rock. Prime and Starscream may be similar in form because it is meant to perform the same function, a powered atmospheric entry that looks like the ballistic entry of a small meteor, the odd faceted surface designed to scatter radar, making it seem much smaller. (A 30-40 foot meteor strike would be large enough to be significant.)
So I guess these actually work for me, and will grab Prime if I have the money to spare, though I will paint it once I get it.
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:34 pm

[quote="gawd6sic6]they dont have thier "common" alt modes yet.. these figures are before the alt modes are are commonly used to ... pre jet , pre semi ..[/quote]

Yeah I realize that but even in cybertronian form they all had a different kind of alt form, ie: the first episode of G1 cartoon or War Within.

What I'd really like to see is some pics of the toys in alt mode since so far all we have is the box art which as we all know isn't always completely accurate
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Postby eggshen » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:59 pm

So that's what Unicrons crap looks like.
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Postby Captain Crooks » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:12 pm

^^^ :D :D :D :D

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Postby piranacon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:44 am

fire one! ooooh PPPPppppppppppppffttt ahhhhhhh
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:18 am

SPLOOOSH!!!!! Unicron left a floater! :shock:
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Postby Gryphman » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:32 pm

AceBaur Prime wrote:[


These really aren't "cybertronian forms though. These are basically "default" forms that they all have as a means to travel between planets.
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:53 pm

So is it kind of like a blank slate transformer with a generic space traveling form?


Whats the deal with the brown Starscream? on the box pic he looks like hes more of a silver color. The brown looks ok but I like the box pic much better
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Postby jimsloth » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:29 pm

AceBaur Prime wrote:So is it kind of like a blank slate transformer with a generic space traveling form?


Whats the deal with the brown Starscream? on the box pic he looks like hes more of a silver color. The brown looks ok but I like the box pic much better

Prime is silver, Starscream is kind of a bronzy gold. Both box art also has a small picture of the other one, so that might confuse you
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Postby Tramp » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:03 pm

AceBaur Prime wrote:So is it kind of like a blank slate transformer with a generic space traveling form?
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Pretty much. There is probably more to it than that, but that would be the general idea. The Protoforms all still seem to have their own individuality and the vehicle modes do differ from one another, but one of the general functions is the same thing, to get them planet-side safely without being detected before scanning a new, final vehicle form and undergoing reformatting.
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Postby grimlockprime108 » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:39 am

so a really advanced statis pod?
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Postby Tramp » Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:07 am

grimlockprime108 wrote:so a really advanced statis pod?


No, more like a combination standard vehicle?either ground or air? and drop ship. In the case of Prime, his alt mode looks more like some futuristic big rig, while Starscream looks like pure air power.
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Postby Tramp » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:45 pm

TFormers.com has five pic gallery of the Protoform Starscream with pics provided by SPX who is selling a test-shot on E-bay. Here is the link to the gallery?http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=6735&dispsize=800&start=0.

He is definately not a Rocklord.
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Postby jimsloth » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:57 pm

Tramp wrote:TFormers.com has five pic gallery of the Protoform Starscream with pics provided by SPX who is selling a test-shot on E-bay. Here is the link to the gallery?http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=6735&dispsize=800&start=0.

He is definately not a Rocklord.

I don't know, wouldn't mind kitbashing him into this guy:

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Magmar/magmar.htm

and optimus into him:

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Guardians/Boudler/boulder.htm
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Postby Ramrider » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:41 pm

Actually, I think Starscream reminds me more of Tombstone...
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Postby Nemesis Sturmvogel » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:19 pm

Don't post TFU images, they're copyrighted (protected)

Starscream looks like an Eva.
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Postby Captain Crooks » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:24 am

Oh man, those rock-lord pics are bringing back some funny memories, :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you do those bashes jimsloth, Captain Crooks DEMANDS you let me see them, heh!! :wink:
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Postby jimsloth » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:57 am

Sturmvogel Prime wrote:Don't post TFU images, they're copyrighted (protected)

Starscream looks like an Eva.

thanks for the heads up. Took them down. As far as tombstone goes, you might be right, but these two were the leaders as far as I can remember, and since I wouldn't be redoing every character, I think these two would be a good first two. If they do a protoform of bumblebee, then Nugget would be perfect. I actually still have all four rocklords mentioned so far (as well as Slimestone, the silver one). I should get them out and take a pic of the group. Oh, and here's a link to nugget. My favorite part of him is the jetpack. Automatically flips out when you lift the hood part.
http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Guardians/Nuggit/nuggit.htm
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Postby Hobbyist Prime » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:29 am

Okay, I found this link

http://www.flickr.com/groups/transformersmovie/pool/

Why oh why does Prime look like a sharkticon complete with the tail?
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Postby evilratbat » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:07 pm

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Theres a better Pic of Boulder

And one of Magmar
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Toy archive dont have them Problems

Crackpots head looks more like the starscream one
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Postby Tramp » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:20 pm

Hobbyist Prime wrote:Okay, I found this link

http://www.flickr.com/groups/transformersmovie/pool/

Why oh why does Prime look like a sharkticon complete with the tail?

He doesn?t look like a Sharkticon. All that is is a back-plate. We haven?t seen a good shot of his alt mode yet, but given that it is some form of re-entry mode (ala Drop Ship), he would need some control surfaces, though we don]t really see any in the pics on the back of the package.
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