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Postby gawd6sic6 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:24 pm

yeah that has happened ...


personally i dont want the orange saftey tip.. but you know what... either we can take it off somehow.. or paint the damn thing.. there really isnt any use to sit and **** about it.. because we are going to get it no matter what... its our laws...


as for the getting it back from customs.. well if it doesnt follow our laws.. i bet you wont get it back


" so the police confiscated the pound of marijuana you had? do you think that i can get it back?" :lol: 8) :lol:

( lets go of the sarcasm button )
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Postby Tramp » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:43 pm

Gawd is correct. If Customs confiscates it, you won’t get it at all; ever. It will be destroyed. Period.

As for the laws, it wasn’t so much the Mintendo gun that caused the problem. It was things like realistic looking cap guns and squirt guns that were the cause of the problem. Even looking at the original G1 Megatron. In gun mode, it looks very much like a real Walther P-38, with few differences to tell it apart. From even a short a distance, someone could very well confuse that with a real gun. This is especially true in low-light conditions. There have also been insidents of robberies commited using toy guns where the victims thought their assailants had real guns instead of toys. A movie from the early-mid 80s called The Legend of Billie Jean demonstrated both of these factors quite effectively.
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Postby saberwolf » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:46 pm

you got the right connections you would be surprised what you could swipe back from customs.

in the end it all comes down to who you know , how far you are willing to go to get what you want and how much you are willing to pay to make it all possible.

it's a well established fact man
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Postby Tramp » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:48 pm

silverbolt wrote:you got the right connections you would be surprised what you could swipe back from customs.

in the end it all comes down to who you know , how far you are willing to go to get what you want and how much you are willing to pay to make it all possible.

it's a well established fact man


Or you’ll end up in prison on bribery charges. do you really want to risk it? :roll:
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Postby saberwolf » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:52 pm

me i figure you got the right lawyer you could at the very least succesfully sue their ass for the theft and wrongeful distruction of your property.
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Postby saberwolf » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:54 pm

aint the first time i did hard time.

doubt it will be the last either
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Postby Tramp » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:16 pm

silverbolt wrote:me i figure you got the right lawyer you could at the very least succesfully sue their ass for the theft and wrongeful distruction of your property.


No, you couldn’t. The law is on their side in this instance.
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:30 pm

silverbolt wrote:you got the right connections you would be surprised what you could swipe back from customs.

in the end it all comes down to who you know , how far you are willing to go to get what you want and how much you are willing to pay to make it all possible.

it's a well established fact man



how about.. pay $100 for the figure.... take off the dumbass orange thing.. or paint it... wont be that hard... since bbts is slapping the crap on there aftermarket... geeeze.. why make it soooo overly complicated....
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:37 pm

No kidding, by the time you payed for a lawyer you could have just as easily removed it or painted it. I'm not a big fan of the orange tip either but I'm not going risk losing 100 bucks over it.
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:38 pm

ADD ON..

its customs.. they protect our country. if what is imported isnt legal in the USA its not getting in.. they are not STEALING it. they by all means are aloud to do it.. they are run by the country , paid by our country , they know our laws. they go by our laws.

and there is no way that no matter who you know. or how much you are willing to pay to get back your precious hundred dollar toy .. you would loose.. really isnt a loop hole there... the judge would laugh you outta his court room.. hell even if it made it to a court....
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Postby saberwolf » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:05 pm

sometimes when it comes to **** like this it takes an inside job to make sure you get what you want the way you want it as opposed to what you want and the way they want you to have it.

it's all a matter of ones viewpoint on the matter and how far that person is willing to go to get what he wants.

there always have been people like that and there always will be man its one of those constants in life.


me i try to be the type of person who keeps an open minded and unbiased viewpoint on any particuler matter despite how much my doing so happens to offend certian people such as family relatives, politicians, or the feds for that matter.
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Postby Tramp » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:55 am

Silverbolt. This law is the way it is for a reason, and a very good one—saftey. There had been too many insidences in the past of people mistaking a toy gun for a real one, and kids getting killed by cops because of it. And customs must, by law, confiscate any toy guns that they find, that don’t meet Federal regulations. You may not like it, but that is the way it is.
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:25 pm

tramp.. we might as well just drop it.. due to the fact they will do what ever it takes to get a damn toy.. that they dont need to put that much trouble into...
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Postby Ramrider » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:56 pm

I am wondering one thing (directed at UK members). I'm no legal expert, but are the same laws applied so fiercely here in the UK? If the Japanese version has got away without turning the barrel orange, would it not be feasible to order straight from Japan or somewhere else if you're worried about breaking the seals?
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:32 pm

Yeah but I think customs probably x-rays all incoming overseas packages and they might confiscate it anyway, or at least stuff that weighs a certain amount. I think someone on this thread said they ordered their MP prime and it took a couple weeks to get it through customs because it was so heavy
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:05 pm

Ramrider wrote:I am wondering one thing (directed at UK members). I'm no legal expert, but are the same laws applied so fiercely here in the UK? If the Japanese version has got away without turning the barrel orange, would it not be feasible to order straight from Japan or somewhere else if you're worried about breaking the seals?



you should be fine and able to get a black tipped one , if your laws allow you to have guns minus the orange tip.. so research the laws , and see if you can just get one straight from japan.
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Postby Tramp » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:16 am

Ramrider wrote:I am wondering one thing (directed at UK members). I'm no legal expert, but are the same laws applied so fiercely here in the UK? If the Japanese version has got away without turning the barrel orange, would it not be feasible to order straight from Japan or somewhere else if you're worried about breaking the seals?


I’m not an Englishman, but that all depends upon what the laws are in the UK regarding toy guns. Does the UK require that toy guns have the orange tip? If not, then getting the unaltered Japanese MP Megatron would be no problem. Our problem in the US is that our laws require toy guns to have the orange tips. This is strictly a US law, not an international one. So, unless the UK has a similar one, I wouldn‘t worry too much.
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Postby piranacon » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:56 am

we dont have that law over here so shouldnt be a problem but il probably buy it from china town,
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:57 am

yay good for you!!! glad you can get an unscrewed up one...
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Postby piranacon » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:28 am

il probably stil end up paying twice as much for him though, even if i orderd him from bbts customs and postage would be as much or more then the toy

i dunno if this would help anyone not wanting the bbts orange tip one
http://www.xybertoys.com/catalog/produc ... cts_id=700
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Postby gawd6sic6 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:09 pm

Due to the nature of this toy, Megatron comes packed in Gun Mode. And this may pose problems when undergoing customs clearance to all countries.
Therefore, we would like to highlight to all customers that we WILL NOT BE LIABLE for any actions taken by customs, e.g confiscation or taxes.

However, we can provide a service to unpack the megatron toy, and semi-transform him into robot mode, and pack him safely along with the rest of the packaging for shipment to our customers. This would definitely prevent any 'security' problems at all customs points, and would allow safe transit of this toy to you. This has been tested and proven to work.

If you would still like to have a mint in sealed box (MISB) item, then please be reminded of the above agreement, that we will not be liable for any consequences of shipping Megatron in gun mode.

We sincerely apologise to all custoemers for all this hassle on buying this really awesome and rare toy, but we need to be honest and upfront on the possible scenarios of purchasing this product, mainly due to the current security precautions and alerts at worldwide customs checkpoints.


if ya read through that... they arent orange tipping it.. but as soon as the guys at customs see it.. its gone.. so its not worth anyone in the US to order one that isnt made correctly... but thanks for trying ...
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Postby schmaudog » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:22 pm

I wonder if it would be worth finding a relay in canada who then could drive them over the border and ship them out. Or maybe I drive to Niagra Falls and find one on my own. I intend to then wave my oversized toy gun at the cops shouting "second amendment protects Megatron's right to exsist".
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Postby Hobbyist Prime » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:50 am

Same law applies to Canada's customs as well!
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Postby tentagil » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:36 pm

No place to attach a stock on this guy, which means no stock or silencer is likely to be made I'm afraid.
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Postby AceBaur Prime » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:54 am

I wonder if it would be possible to have a stock that folded up into his legs to bulk them up
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