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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby RAcast » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:44 pm

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wewyllenium wrote:I want it. As long as it comes with the Ultras Magnus trailer if it will be Ultra Magnus. About having a new mold for Ultra Magnus... wasn't Ultra magnus just a white convoy with Armor?

Yes, G1 Ultra Magnus is just a white Optimus with spiffy armor.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Megatronus27 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:46 pm

I was under the impression that the new direction of the masterpiece line was to be Scalable G1 Cartoon Accurate Depictions of the Characters. Am I making this up or is this wishful thinking?

IF this is true, than really Ultra Magnus is the only option unless Takara is selling the "Dead" or even "Undead" Optimus from the movie or Season 3. IF its a "Proper Ultra Magnus" as already quoted, I would happily dish out $300+ for a Takara exclusive. Potentially tho, they will have already made money on the mold thru MP-10 and TRU Exclusive hopefully keeping price in line with MP-10's Takara Price Tag as they are only engineering the trailer?

IF its any MP-10 repaint and NOT a proper Magnus, the whole Masterpiece line is jeopardized... IMHO.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby REMINATOR » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:09 pm

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I'm just curious, how would the fandom feel if TTomy pull out a stunt like Igear PP01 Ultra which they would release the white Magnus robot cab first and then promise the trailer to be followed some where down the road? As we know, Igear never release the armor til this day. :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby megatronus » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:15 pm

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I agree with what most have expressed. The two most likely options are:

-Ultra Magnus
-Nemesis Prime

I throw my hat in with everyone else who wants a 'proper' Ultra Magnus. I would HAPPILY pay upwards of $300 for it if he comes with the trailer. :DANCE:

BUT I find this unlikely, because Ultra Magnus isn't as well known state side and might be a harder sell... that combined with the extra costs...

OTOH, they might be trying a show of force by showing up Fansproject and winning back a few fans to the official brand...

Nah, too risky. Nemesis Prime it is. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Trikeboy » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:35 pm

RAcast wrote:
wewyllenium wrote:I want it. As long as it comes with the Ultras Magnus trailer if it will be Ultra Magnus. About having a new mold for Ultra Magnus... wasn't Ultra magnus just a white convoy with Armor?

Yes, G1 Ultra Magnus is just a white Optimus with spiffy armor.
Yes, it's cannon.


They don't have to stick to that but it looks like they will. I'm a little dissapointed if it will just be a white Prime in armor but that isn't enough to stop me buying it. The MP10 mold is very impressive. Please give us the armor this time so we can have a proper Ultra Magnus.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Megatronus27 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:46 pm

Above Quote -

"...BUT I find this unlikely, because Ultra Magnus isn't as well known state side and might be a harder sell... that combined with the extra costs..."


I respectively disagree with Ultra Magnus not being well known here in the states... Movie, Season 3, Headmasters, Animated, Prime Toyline. Nemesis/Sleep convoy aren't nearly as well known. AND we did see Rodimus whom I think would have similar recognition factor as Magnus.

I definately doubt we would see a US Release and I doubt it would be a hot seller UNLESS it includes the trailer.

I fear it's only wishful thinking however. How would the Trailer Armor impact Ultra Magnus' height? Would that be a potential issue as it could upset the "scalability" factor?
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Bonch » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:49 pm

There's always the possibility of a white repaint for MP-15 and then, after we've all shelled out the cash, MP-15A is optional armor. Goodbye, $$$!
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:59 am

Seeing how that they have just released their third Convoy in 2011, and have recently announced that they were working on Ultra Magnus... I am assuming it is Ultra Magnus. :-?
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby xyl360 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:53 am

kirbenvost wrote:It better be Ultra Magnus with armor.

I believe it is. Takara seems to be really striving for perfection with regards to bot mode accuracy with the current run of MP's, and I believe that this (assuming it is Magnus) will be no exception. They know all too well that white Prime does not a cartoon accurate Ultra Magnus make. He needs a trailer. That trailer needs to convert into armor that makes him appear as he did in the cartoons and I think that finally, that's what we'll be getting.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Trikeboy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:00 am

I'm pretty sure it will be an Armored Ultra Magnus. Remember a while ago Takara Tomy designer Shogo posted a picture of MP10 in a cut up G1 trailer as a mock up of what they could do with Ultra Magnus. I'm sure they have found a way to make the MP10 mold work with a trailer and of course look better than just the truck with the legs extended.

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Mykltron » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 am

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If it has a new trailer that gives the mold a True Ultra Magnus look would that at least be considered a new mold although a trailer only?


That won't make me happy. He'll have terrible proportions. I want a Magnus that's not a white OP with armour, because that's how he is in the cartoon.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Mykltron » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 am

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby gavinfuzzy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:28 am

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Meh. >:oP If it's a straight repaint, I have no interest... Unless it's shattered glass. :ic$:

As for a full armored Magnus... We'll see how this goes, though it's highly unlikely.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Hotrodimust » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:46 am

If its not ultra Magnus with trailer that turns to armor than I don't care. I don't want a nemesis prime or a black convoy or sleep mode prime. I want new bots new molds the only other repaint I would buy is an mp-11 mold skywarp so I can have all my seekers updated. But for now the head swap on my skywarp will have to do.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Stumpybot » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:16 am

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just because they cut up a G1 Magnus and kitbashed him to an mp10 doesnt confirm a thing, it was a fan nod, not MP Magnus confirmation. if its not magnus, all this wish fulfillment fantasy will just have a load of nerds angry that they didnt get what they wanted

we've had a massive run of new molds and sometimes, repaints have to happen, it raises money without the outlay for engineering something from scratch

maybe this is Magnus, i hope its Nemesis, if its a rejigged MP10 optimus then no doubt the forum will be flooded with people proclaiming 'its an easy pass' (possibly one of the most irritating and pointless statements alongside saying 'this'), but right now, we know nothing. So just because a designer tweeted a kitbashed photo to excite fans over what could be, doesnt mean that it is. a trailer that becomes armour is incredibly complicated to do well, and despite our desire to have it, it may not meet Takara requirements and bottom line. we know its the MP10 mold, thats it, could be Optimus, Ginrai, Sleep mode, Nemesis, Black Convoy or Magnus.

im just saying dont jump the gun too much, because you could be wrong and we all know how that story ends :sad:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby zappatton2 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:25 am

Wasn't there an interview a short while back with one of the dudes who works on the MP line saying that the MP-10 mold had some hints to it of how they might work in Magnus armour? I could be mistaken, but I really think that's how they're going to go with this. And believe me, if they are giving us Magnus with armour, I can't throw money at them fast enough. Otherwise, I'll pass and wait for the next MP.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:28 am

Mykltron wrote:That won't make me happy. He'll have terrible proportions. I want a Magnus that's not a white OP with armour, because that's how he is in the cartoon.


From what I do recall, MP-2 was based on the DW comic scene where he sheds his armor. But even if that is not true, the Japanese canon for the figure is based on the Binaltech/Alternity timeline.

Then again, I hope they fixed any QC issues that plagued the reissue.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Meh. >:oP If it's a straight repaint, I have no interest... Unless it's shattered glass. :ic$:

As for a full armored Magnus... We'll see how this goes, though it's highly unlikely.


I'd prefer an exclusive Diaclone variant. More of the "homage to the original Transformers: The Movie trailer that shows him sporting his Diaclone colors" bit.

Besides... When they work on something, they make it happen. I just wish they would have done such when it comes to reissuing Ultra Magnus for the Encore line. :BOOM:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby gavinfuzzy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:40 am

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zappatton2 wrote:Wasn't there an interview a short while back with one of the dudes who works on the MP line saying that the MP-10 mold had some hints to it of how they might work in Magnus armour? I could be mistaken, but I really think that's how they're going to go with this. And believe me, if they are giving us Magnus with armour, I can't throw money at them fast enough. Otherwise, I'll pass and wait for the next MP.


That was at cybertron con. They said of a MP Magnus possibility. Then again, they also said that a possible candidate for MP-12 was Devastator at one point...
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby TimothyR » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:18 pm

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Trikeboy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:10 pm

TimothyR wrote:
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Trikeboy wrote:Image
I'm not paying hundreds for a figure with almost no shoulder articulation.


that's a mock up using G1 magnus's trailer.


Yes, it is. That is why I said it twice in my post that was a mock up with the G1 trailer. Mykltron seems to have just jumped to the picture and didn't seem to read my post. I was saying that I hope they have found a way to make it work with the trailer. That being said, I am in the camp of preferring an Ultra Magnus that isn't just a white Prime in armor. I would prefer a brand new mold where there is no white Prime and the truck fully intergrates into the trailer like what they did with Titanium UM. I'm not saying they should do the same thing but look into ways of making that incorporation work much better. That is of course assuming MP-15 is Ultra Magnus. Though, going by the number MP-15 I think it will. New characters get a new number, repaints of the same character get a suffix after the number (MP-01S, MP-09B etc.).
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:45 pm

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Blasphemous Prime » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:02 am

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I have to agree with Trikeboy on this. The transformation of MP-10 leaves little room for proper fitting trailer armor or proper articulation. Skipping the white Robot part may have to be the way to go this time around. Personally, I can't stand the idea of the white robot due to the fact that Magnus never stepped out of his armor in the TV series. Yes I understand he did in the comics, but I think most of us got to know magnus first in the TV series.

my biggest worry is that we will get just another albino prime. I'm so sick of that shortcut being used. The fans don't deserve it, and it's disrespectful to the character as a whole.

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Mykltron » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:32 am

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