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Mykltron wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

I'm not paying hundreds for a figure with almost no shoulder articulation.

that's a mock up using G1 magnus's trailer.

TimothyR wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

I'm not paying hundreds for a figure with almost no shoulder articulation.

that's a mock up using G1 magnus's trailer.

Yes, it is. That is why I said it twice in my post that was a mock up with the G1 trailer. Mykltron seems to have just jumped to the picture and didn't seem to read my post. I was saying that I hope they have found a way to make it work with the trailer. That being said, I am in the camp of preferring an Ultra Magnus that isn't just a white Prime in armor. I would prefer a brand new mold where there is no white Prime and the truck fully intergrates into the trailer like what they did with Titanium UM. I'm not saying they should do the same thing but look into ways of making that incorporation work much better. That is of course assuming MP-15 is Ultra Magnus. Though, going by the number MP-15 I think it will. New characters get a new number, repaints of the same character get a suffix after the number (MP-01S, MP-09B etc.).

Unless this is a prime with armor for Magnus, pass.

I have to agree with Trikeboy on this. The transformation of MP-10 leaves little room for proper fitting trailer armor or proper articulation. Skipping the white Robot part may have to be the way to go this time around. Personally, I can't stand the idea of the white robot due to the fact that Magnus never stepped out of his armor in the TV series. Yes I understand he did in the comics, but I think most of us got to know magnus first in the TV series.

my biggest worry is that we will get just another albino prime. I'm so sick of that shortcut being used. The fans don't deserve it, and it's disrespectful to the character as a whole.

I say Ultra Magnus complete, or no magnus at all!

Trikeboy wrote:Mykltron seems to have just jumped to the picture and didn't seem to read my post.

Yes, it seems I did just that.

gothweaver wrote:my biggest worry is that we will get just another albino prime. I'm so sick of that shortcut being used. The fans don't deserve it, and it's disrespectful to the character as a whole.

I say Ultra Magnus complete, or no magnus at all!

Like I said earlier, the only real issue with MP-2 was the reissue. It faced some QC issues, and it is safe to assume that it will not be repeated. That, and they said something that MP-2 is now part of the Binaltech timeline. Otherwise, it is worth having in its truck form and with the paper trailer added.

As for the armor, it is safe to assume that the arms tuck in before you put it on. Which means that there should be articulation, and the trailer is split into two parts. But that is an observational speculation.

And if it is Ultra Magnus, I have three issues: Price, availability, and if this would make me want to seek out a MP-8 Grimlock (I am trying to collect Commander rank characters, just not Supreme Commanders).

I'll take the minority position that I quite like the two robots in one feature of Ultra Magnus, I had him as a kid and loved both modes. And yes, as Maximus said, there probably is a fair bit of "limb tuck-in" to allow his armour a greater deal of articulation. Either way, we'll get what we get, one way of looking at it, could be a money-saver if he's just albino Prime.

zappatton2 wrote:I'll take the minority position that I quite like the two robots in one feature of Ultra Magnus, I had him as a kid and loved both modes. And yes, as Maximus said, there probably is a fair bit of "limb tuck-in" to allow his armor a greater deal of articulation. Either way, we'll get what we get, one way of looking at it, could be a money-saver if he's just albino Prime.

Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

gothweaver wrote:

zappatton2 wrote:I'll take the minority position that I quite like the two robots in one feature of Ultra Magnus, I had him as a kid and loved both modes. And yes, as Maximus said, there probably is a fair bit of "limb tuck-in" to allow his armor a greater deal of articulation. Either way, we'll get what we get, one way of looking at it, could be a money-saver if he's just albino Prime.

Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

Agreed with gothweaver, when it comes to UM, wanting the 2 robot forms, can never be in the minority. It's in UM root characteristic dating back to Diaclone. Just because the cartoon doesn't show, it doesn't mean the White Magnus isn't part of UM character. To me, I take the 2 bot form modes over the Titanium style any day. Otherwise, he would just be Magnus

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And if it is Ultra Magnus, I have three issues: Price, availability, and if this would make me want to seek out a MP-8 Grimlock (I am trying to collect Commander rank characters, just not Supreme Commanders).

If you're looking to get Grimlock, I'd say go for either MP-8, MP-8K, or even the Hasbro version (the differences of the Hasbro version are quite minimal), as, of all the MPs I own, Grimlock is my favorite MP mold simply because it's just so darn fun a figure!