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REMINATOR wrote:I'm just curious, how would the fandom feel if TTomy pull out a stunt like Igear PP01 Ultra which they would release the white Magnus robot cab first and then promise the trailer to be followed some where down the road? As we know, Igear never release the armor til this day.
For me, it's a win-win whether it's just a white Magnus or the Ultra version since I collect them both. As long it's not another Prime repaint black/gray/Nemesis/Scourge, I'm all happy.

I can't see TT ever releasing just the armor. If they did something like this, I'd expect it to be like MP-01 and MP-04 where you'd wind up with two bots and one trailer. But I don't really see them releasing just a white Prime this time around. If this teaser is actually legitimate, I think it's either a different Prime repaint or Ultra Magnus done proper.

gothweaver wrote:Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

Just curious on what you mean "you can't just fold the arms to the side."

I ask because from my understanding, the arms were always part of the trailer that becomes the armor. And because of that, in order to have any QC-free articulation, you need to revert the robot's arms back into the way it was in truck form. Much like the way it was with the original toy. Or did the toy not transform this way after all?

That, and I am also assuming that the trailer will split into two parts in order to give the figure maximum articulation.

Sabrblade wrote:If you're looking to get Grimlock, I'd say go for either MP-8, MP-8K, or even the Hasbro version (the differences of the Hasbro version are quite minimal), as, of all the MPs I own, Grimlock is my favorite MP mold simply because it's just so darn fun a figure!

I agree. But my problem is that because I have said limited budget, hope to move next year, and plan to submit all of my current pieces to AFA... I don't know if MP-8 Grimlock and the possible Ultra Magnus pieces are possible. Especially since it does not appear they will reissue him as either an Encore or even a Masterpiece.

But he will be in my list in hopes of me getting lucky, as he fits what I am looking for. So lets hope he gets a reissue either way.

Okay...

Clue #1: worthless, shadowy teaser pic (that we always complain about anyways):
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Clue #2: "teaser" image originated from 4chan (cuz we know everything they do is on the level, amirite?)
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Conclusion: 'fraid y'all got trolled.

DJrasmo wrote:Okay...

Clue #1: worthless, shadowy teaser pic (that we always complain about anyways):
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Clue #2: "teaser" image originated from 4chan (cuz we know everything they do is on the level, amirite?)
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Conclusion: 'fraid y'all got trolled.

And can you back up that conclusion?

Because "'fraid y'all got trolled." means nothing but an invalid speculation on your front if you cannot back it up. Because how about this?

Fact #1: We also have an official image of a "Masterpiece" Convoy in prototype Magnus armor. This was shown some time prior to this announcement.

Fact #2: The last two pieces they had announced had no proper prototype images, yet the last three announced had the shadowy images.

Fact #3: Ultra Magnus looks like Convoy without his armor, and making a shadowy mock-up with his armor would ruin any surprises.

So unless you have evidence that supports your claims, I recommend that you recede the trolling comment just because you have no faith in the idea that intelligent people also go to 4chan.

4chan has always been a source for viable TF news, such as in recent years, the announcement of PCC, ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime, and during the prototype censorship in 2011, it was majorly where the DOTM toys were first seen.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

gothweaver wrote:Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

Just curious on what you mean "you can't just fold the arms to the side."

I ask because from my understanding, the arms were always part of the trailer that becomes the armor. And because of that, in order to have any QC-free articulation, you need to revert the robot's arms back into the way it was in truck form. Much like the way it was with the original toy. Or did the toy not transform this way after all?

I think they were referring to the cab robot's arms folding into the side, not the trailer super mode's arms.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:If you're looking to get Grimlock, I'd say go for either MP-8, MP-8K, or even the Hasbro version (the differences of the Hasbro version are quite minimal), as, of all the MPs I own, Grimlock is my favorite MP mold simply because it's just so darn fun a figure!

I agree. But my problem is that because I have said limited budget, hope to move next year, and plan to submit all of my current pieces to AFA... I don't know if MP-8 Grimlock and the possible Ultra Magnus pieces are possible. Especially since it does not appear they will reissue him as either an Encore or even a Masterpiece.

But he will be in my list in hopes of me getting lucky, as he fits what I am looking for. So lets hope he gets a reissue either way.

That's cool. No need to hurry. I'd say whichever one you want also depends on which accessories you want.

Though, I wouldn't count on any G1 mold reissue like in Encore or whatnot, as the original Dinobot molds are among those said to be either lost or beyond use (along with Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and maybe Shockwave).

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

gothweaver wrote:Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

Just curious on what you mean "you can't just fold the arms to the side."

I ask because from my understanding, the arms were always part of the trailer that becomes the armor. And because of that, in order to have any QC-free articulation, you need to revert the robot's arms back into the way it was in truck form. Much like the way it was with the original toy. Or did the toy not transform this way after all?

That, and I am also assuming that the trailer will split into two parts in order to give the figure maximum articulation.

The MP-10 mold can't fold it's arms back into it's sides. the waist is made up of the wheel arches like MP-01. In order to get them in, you have to basically take the toy back to truck mode. Since the legs don't flip down like the G1 mold, this leaves the front of the truck pointing straight up and make it incredibly back heavy. In order to make an armor for that mold it will have to be a parts former like City Commander.

Trikeboy wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

gothweaver wrote:Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

Just curious on what you mean "you can't just fold the arms to the side."

I ask because from my understanding, the arms were always part of the trailer that becomes the armor. And because of that, in order to have any QC-free articulation, you need to revert the robot's arms back into the way it was in truck form. Much like the way it was with the original toy. Or did the toy not transform this way after all?

That, and I am also assuming that the trailer will split into two parts in order to give the figure maximum articulation.

The MP-10 mold can't fold it's arms back into it's sides. the waist is made up of the wheel arches like MP-01. In order to get them in, you have to basically take the toy back to truck mode. Since the legs don't flip down like the G1 mold, this leaves the front of the truck pointing straight up and make it incredibly back heavy. In order to make an armor for that mold it will have to be a parts former like City Commander.

Oh, I'm sure they could think of a creative way to do it. MP Rodimus would have been easy if you could just throw his car mode into that winnebago, but oh no, you have to transform him into some sort of monstrous mess to shove him under his trailer. I'm thinking this will be similar.

zappatton2 wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

gothweaver wrote:Actually, You're probably not in the minority. I think a most people want both robots. I do too if it's feasible. I'm just saying if it's not (which is more than likely, considering you can't just fold the arms to the side as stated above), I'd rather have the full character rather than just another albino prime.

Just curious on what you mean "you can't just fold the arms to the side."

I ask because from my understanding, the arms were always part of the trailer that becomes the armor. And because of that, in order to have any QC-free articulation, you need to revert the robot's arms back into the way it was in truck form. Much like the way it was with the original toy. Or did the toy not transform this way after all?

That, and I am also assuming that the trailer will split into two parts in order to give the figure maximum articulation.

The MP-10 mold can't fold it's arms back into it's sides. the waist is made up of the wheel arches like MP-01. In order to get them in, you have to basically take the toy back to truck mode. Since the legs don't flip down like the G1 mold, this leaves the front of the truck pointing straight up and make it incredibly back heavy. In order to make an armor for that mold it will have to be a parts former like City Commander.

Oh, I'm sure they could think of a creative way to do it. MP Rodimus would have been easy if you could just throw his car mode into that winnebago, but oh no, you have to transform him into some sort of monstrous mess to shove him under his trailer. I'm thinking this will be similar.

I would rather him be a parts former for the armor than have the trailer transform around the mp-10 mold. I think it would have an overall better outcome with looks and articulation. Just like perfect effects motobot aka arcee if they didn't make her a little bit of a part former I think the figures articulation and overall appearance would have suffered from it. Plus armor usually comes in pieces but what ever way Takara does it if that's what they are doing I hope it comes out great and remains very articulated.

I think we will see the ultra magnus with full armor and trailer, as we are getting the sideswipe and red alert figures, which if we get the trailer we could load them up onto the trailer as a real car carrier, if you remember back to the G1 packaging it shows magnus carrying other bots in vehicle mode. And even tho the pic shows MP-10 doesnt mean they did a retool to the mold to make it work with full armor. But if not magnus I def foresee being a Nemesis Prime deco, its quick and easy and it allows them a lil filler to have more time to make the magnus armor work.