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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:44 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Though, Unicron didn't make Galvatron I (not II) insane. That was due to his lava bath on Thrull messing with his head, as he was still sane in the 1986 movie (however, Galvatron II's insanity was indeed a side-effect of Unicron's reformatting).


I need to slightly correct you there. In the movie, we do not see the state of Galvatron's mentality after the death of Unicron. However, what we do see is him being placed on a very tight mental leash... Which means that whenever Galvatron resisted, he received a very bad form of mental torture.

I am assuming that he was forced to watch the Michael Bay films that way. :lol:

So when Unicron died, his influence (and particles) was still in Galvatron. Which was later revealed when Cyclonus tried getting his insanity corrected and the planet could not - Unicron, and not the lava bath had influence on his mentality. This was also later proven to be a possibility when (in Headmasters) Galvatron announced his plans to become the next "Unicron" (per say). Which means that up to his death, Unicron still had an influence on him.

And if any... The heat from the lava might have damaged some of the particles that allowed Unicron to have a greater grasp on Galvatron. :-? (And yes,I watched the third season's episodes nearly religiously as both a kid and an adult.)

As for Galvatron II... His madness was due to him facing an "Endless 8" and being aware that he would not escape anytime soon. Which now makes me wonder how Itsuki, Kyon, and Mikuru handled theirs as they faced theirs 15,532 times. But I digress, as that can make anybody go mad, especially if they wanted to enjoy their victory. :BOOM:

Sabrblade wrote:And Dark Nove didn't merge with Super Megatron into Ultra Megatron. He upgraded Super into Ultra, and then merged with Ultra to become Hoshi no Kyojin, the Star Giant.


Ahhh... Okay. That makes more sense. I try avoiding Destron media, as well as that questionable (at best) series. :lol: Heck, if you had seen my collection, and the way it is now set up, I have two pieces taking up 2010... Three (hopefully four, if MP-15 is Magnus) be tied into Headmasters. The rest is Alternity, Henkei!, and Arms Microns.

So when it comes to this, I have to rely on a friend's translated works. Namely because I am wondering if or when people at TFwiki will realize that Jazz's ranking is Lieutenant Commander, and not Lieutenant/Sub-Commander. :BOOM:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:14 pm

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I need to slightly correct you there. In the movie, we do not see the state of Galvatron's mentality after the death of Unicron. However, what we do see is him being placed on a very tight mental leash... Which means that whenever Galvatron resisted, he received a very bad form of mental torture.

I am assuming that he was forced to watch the Michael Bay films that way. :lol:

So when Unicron died, his influence (and particles) was still in Galvatron. Which was later revealed when Cyclonus tried getting his insanity corrected and the planet could not - Unicron, and not the lava bath had influence on his mentality. This was also later proven to be a possibility when (in Headmasters) Galvatron announced his plans to become the next "Unicron" (per say). Which means that up to his death, Unicron still had an influence on him.

And if any... The heat from the lava might have damaged some of the particles that allowed Unicron to have a greater grasp on Galvatron. :-? (And yes,I watched the third season's episodes nearly religiously as both a kid and an adult.)
In the movie, Galvatron acts exactly as he did when he was Megatron, only differences being his new voice (Leonard Nimoy instead of Frank Welker) and his new, more powerful body. He's as calm-minded and tactical-thinking as he was when he was Megatron.

When he is pulled from the lava pit on Thrull, however, he gains another new voice (this time by Frank Welker, but still different from his Megatron voice) and he lashes out at his own troops in violent, blinded fury and maniacal laughter. We even see indicative sparks coming from his forehead at one point, showing that his mind has been damaged by the lava.

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:As for Galvatron II... His madness was due to him facing an "Endless 8" and being aware that he would not escape anytime soon. Which now makes me wonder how Itsuki, Kyon, and Mikuru handled theirs as they faced theirs 15,532 times. But I digress, as that can make anybody go mad, especially if they wanted to enjoy their victory. :BOOM:
I'm not amused. >:oP

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:So when it comes to this, I have to rely on a friend's translated works. Namely because I am wondering if or when people at TFwiki will realize that Jazz's ranking is Lieutenant Commander, and not Lieutenant/Sub-Commander. :BOOM:
He's held both ranks. His Japanese bio rank is Lieutenant, and his rank in The Ultimate Guide is Sub-commander. Since TFWiki covers everything, it lists both.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby datguy86 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:45 pm

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:As for Galvatron II... His madness was due to him facing an "Endless 8" and being aware that he would not escape anytime soon. Which now makes me wonder how Itsuki, Kyon, and Mikuru handled theirs as they faced theirs 15,532 times. But I digress, as that can make anybody go mad, especially if they wanted to enjoy their victory.


Simple - they didn't remember each morning. And Yuki did, which is why you have the events in the movie.

As for the topic, I'm leaning towards Ultra Magnus myself.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:28 am

Ummm... Sabrblade? Do you remember how the others asked you stop trying to be right and start listening to those who are equally knowledgeable of a series or event? This is one of those moments. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzM1vBp_z6E

I have seen the movie 5 times in 3 days, so the events and differences are still fresh. And what season 3, episode 16 has stated is what I am trying to say: His insanity is the result of Unicron, not the result of plasma. (Because if the plasma had the capabilities of damaging him, he would also not be able to do anything when it comes to the upper-half of his body.) :lol:

So with that said, can we please just stick with things that don't have you trying to be right? :HEADHURTS:

And as to answer your question about "Battlestars"... How shall I explain this?

"Return of Convoy" was an uninspiring toyline, and I have to wonder if the storyline (not the manga) was meant for a different series. Plus, they did not even bother making it be better than Victory or even Zone... Which might as well have been the last series, even though Operation Combination was a far better series. >:oP

:CON: dum dee dum dum :BOT:

datguy86 wrote:Simple - they didn't remember each morning. And Yuki did, which is why you have the events in the movie.

As for the topic, I'm leaning towards Ultra Magnus myself.


I should have remembered that. :lol: Thanks for the reminder, and know that a representative at KyoAni had told me that the movie was it for their part of the franchise. :sad:

Oh... And topic at hand... I am so hoping this is Ultra Magnus, and that it comes out before I have to surrender my money for my 2013 trip. :michaelbay:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Va'al » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:59 am

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:24 am

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Burn » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:37 am

Va'al wrote:Would you two like a room?


Va'als polite way of saying "Please get back on topic before that big mean Mod Burn comes in and rouses on us! He scares me!"
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Banjo-Tron » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:47 am

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Aww. These learned fellas swinging their junk in the wind is probably the most inspiring thing about this topic. ;)

In terms of the identy of the mystery figure, I'm going for plain old honkimus Prime (AKA Magnus in his underpants)
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:48 am

Va'al wrote:Would you two like a room?


Burn wrote:Va'als polite way of saying "Please get back on topic before that big mean Mod Burn comes in and rouses on us! He scares me!"


Banjo-Tron wrote:Aww. These learned fellas swinging their junk in the wind is probably the most inspiring thing about this topic. ;)

In terms of the identy of the mystery figure, I'm going for plain old honkimus Prime (AKA Magnus in his underpants)


Ummm... Yeah... Thanks for making me feel ridiculed and villainous, you guys. It was not bad enough that this old Aspergers-Anxiety hybrid had to face that once again (as I am not sure which version of him I will get), but being told as if it is the conversation I wanted makes me feel oh so welcome here. >:oP

Think about it. Because I am 36 years old, have been a fan of Transformers for an estimated 28 years. And despite that, as well as everything else nobody knows about me (such as why I am so dedicated to Takara Tomy's line, why it has taken me this long to figure out what I want to collect, etc.)... I get lumped into something that I never asked for, and has me wonder if it a hint that I made the mistake or rejoining this site. >:oP

And that is all I am going to say, as that is how I feel right now. [-(

Oh... And FYI, as I said before: I am hoping it is Ultra Magnus. If you asked me a week before, I would say it is because he has a Commander status. But now, it is because he actually contributed to the Headmasters series by doing more than defend Cybertron in two episodes. (Sorry Grimlock!) :BOT:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Va'al » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:12 am

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Va'al wrote:Would you two like a room?


Va'als polite way of saying "Please get back on topic before that big mean Mod Burn comes in and rouses on us! He scares me!"


I read that as 'arouses'. Freudian slip?

In any case, I don't really but Masterpieces, but could give in if it is a Magnus with Armour/Trailer.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:02 pm

Va'al wrote:
Burn wrote:
Va'al wrote:Would you two like a room?


Va'als polite way of saying "Please get back on topic before that big mean Mod Burn comes in and rouses on us! He scares me!"


I read that as 'arouses'. Freudian slip?

In any case, I don't really but Masterpieces, but could give in if it is a Magnus with Armour/Trailer.


It depends on if that parapraxis was due to some kind of subdued wish, an opression of some kind, or something else. >:oP Let me ask you, as a child, did you have any issues with gold plastic syndrome? Or even wanted to punch a mime because Hasbro refused to put out a decent Arcee toy? >:oP Kidding.

Besides that, I can pretty much reassure you that their goal is to give the fans a version of Ultra Magnus that is based on the Scramble City: Mobilization, Movie, 2010, and Headmasters series. No promise that it will come with a scaled-down version of the coffin used when they had buried him. But we may hear about a "Diaclone" variant and/or a e-HOBBY "Dan" variant (as they have not updated his story since 2010).

But for me, I also have not bothered seeking out any Masterpieces. I would have for Grimlock, I now can only hope for a reissue... Much like I now do with C-06 Skyfire. But with him, he definitely fits the Headmasters portion of my collection. (I have a few guidelines for how I am collecting that.) So unless he becomes way too expensive, or I have something else that keeps me from ordering it, he will definitely become my first. :BOT:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Megatron000 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:56 pm

The teaser pic reminds of "Who's that Pokemon" from the cartoon series when I was a kid lol. Hopefully, it's not a remold...
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:48 pm

Megatron000 wrote:The teaser pic reminds of "Who's that Pokemon" from the cartoon series when I was a kid lol. Hopefully, it's not a remold...

Sabrblade posted a joke about tha a few pages ago.

I still think it was going to be Pikatron. :-B
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Erailea » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:04 pm

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
Megatron000 wrote:The teaser pic reminds of "Who's that Pokemon" from the cartoon series when I was a kid lol. Hopefully, it's not a remold...

Sabrblade posted a joke about tha a few pages ago.

I still think it was going to be Pikatron. :-B


For some reason that made me think of that ridiculous show SD Gundam...
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Stormrider » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:25 pm

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So are we any closer with identifying MP15. I keep reading Ultra Magnus. Is there any definitive proof to back this up or is this just speculation at this point?
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Bubbah » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:44 pm

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Stormrider wrote:So are we any closer with identifying MP15. I keep reading Ultra Magnus. Is there any definitive proof to back this up or is this just speculation at this point?

Total speculation ... And a lot of hoping haha
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:45 pm

Stormrider wrote:So are we any closer with identifying MP15. I keep reading Ultra Magnus. Is there any definitive proof to back this up or is this just speculation at this point?


There is quite a bit, but you have you to get past the "great" "What drove Galvatron insane?" debate. (It was Sabrblade. Kidding.) Because we do have photos of them showing a MP-11 Convoy in mock-up armor and them saying that they were designing a new MP version of Ultra Magnus.

Oh, and MP-2 Ultra Magnus looks like a white Convoy. :BOT:
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Son of Carl » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:04 am

I just preordered what was listed as MP-15 on BBTS, Ravage & Rumble.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Trikeboy » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:54 am

yup, either BBTS got the wrong info or 4chan got it wrong. Glad that MP-15 will be new molds.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Hotrodimust » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:44 pm

Lol it's great that everyone was totally wrong
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:11 pm

I'm happy, I was hoping it wasn't gonna be another year before we got some more cassettes for Soundwave. Since I switched to MP's being my only official product, I'm happy to have a break from higher priced larger figures. I'll also be really happy if they plan to MP every cassette, even the Dino's, that would be fantastic, and IO'd buy everyone, including any autobots.

Especially if Magnus maybe on the Horizon.

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby KNM2012 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:28 pm

Hotrodimust wrote:Lol it's great that everyone was totally wrong


Troll much? :lol:

Besides, I have three good reasons why I am glad that my speculations are wrong:

1) I like being surprised at the cost of being wrong. It means that unless some jackhole chooses to be a "I am right, you are wrong" type, I get to invest more interest in the item.

2) I am intellectual, which means for me that I get to learn more about the company making it and see where they are going with their lines.

3) Even if I was correct, I'd still have to opt out on getting it at this time due to the fact that I need to save up for my 2013 trip, need to submit my current collection to AFA, and "Encore" Twincast is a post-vintage priority as we speak.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby hattknall » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:58 pm

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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby zappatton2 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:23 pm

Doesn't mean we won't be getting an Ultra Magnus soon. I was pretty certain these would be upcoming, considering they already made little prototypes of them. Glad Soundwave will be getting his minions, but I am really hoping they don't skip out on Buzzsaw, or only sell him with a Soundblaster repaint. Don't need Soundblaster, MUST have Buzzsaw.
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Re: MP-15 Teaser

Postby Hotrodimust » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:53 pm

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Lol it's great that everyone was totally wrong


Troll much? :lol:

Besides, I have three good reasons why I am glad that my speculations are wrong:

1) I like being surprised at the cost of being wrong. It means that unless some jackhole chooses to be a "I am right, you are wrong" type, I get to invest more interest in the item.

2) I am intellectual, which means for me that I get to learn more about the company making it and see where they are going with their lines.

3) Even if I was correct, I'd still have to opt out on getting it at this time due to the fact that I need to save up for my 2013 trip, need to submit my current collection to AFA, and "Encore" Twincast is a post-vintage priority as we speak.

How is that trolling even I was hoping it was ultra Magnus and that site posted a shadow of a mp-10 which was way off. And it's not like it was my opinion everyone was wrong and I just thought it funny after that crazy conversation about what prime it might be that's it.
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