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MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Mykltron » Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:12 am

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Yes. Yes he does.

I was looking forward to MP Sideswipe much more than Prowl but now that Prowl has arrived... WOW! It actually took me longer to transform him into robot mode than back into car mode (without instructions), which is very unusual as normally getting to robot mode is the easiest transformation.

I haven't played with him much yet but he seems much better than Sideswipe so far: his car mode fits together better; everything clips into place in robot mode (unlike Sideswipe's shoulders); he has much better articulation (those ankles are crazy, and the double bicep and multiple shoulder joints are very nice); and his gun fits his hands better (I had to do the superglue trick on Sideswipe).

There are a couple of nice touches that don't seem absolutely necessary but really make a difference: little flaps that fill the gaps on the top of his foot and the extending shoulder cannons.

He isn't perfect. Prowl's leg proportions aren't great (those knees are way too high), but it doesn't seem to bother me anywhere near as much as with the new Blitzwing. His waist sculpt prevents him from lifting his thighs up to 90° yet still he seems better than Sideswipe to me.

On a different note, obviously this is nothing to do with the toy's design as they have just copied the car, but: the car design seems rather silly to me. Having the wing mirrors that far away from the driver severely limits how much can be seen in them. Also, the headlights are set back in half-tubes, surely that means the light won't dissipate in front of the centre of the car, right?

Anyway, these are my initial thoughts, how about you guys?
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Re: Prowl Is A Complex Li'l Bugger

Postby Mykltron » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:11 am

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Articulation:

Head swivel, can look down SLIGHTLY, up almost 45°

Shoulders can do almost anything you'd want, and possibly more than your shoulders can do! They can swing forwards a little, thanks to the transformation joint, as well as shrug/droop and raise laterally.

Biceps swivel and double elbow.

Wrist rotation and opening hands.

Waist swivel.

Thighs swing outwards into full splits but only raise forwards to about 45°. Full thigh swivel. Knees bend about 90°. If you use the transformation joint they can bend further but it might look a little odd.

Ankles can pivot 45° so he can do a very wide A stance. Toes can raise or point down. There's an additional heel flap as well.

In short: you won't be complaining about poseability. And yes, he can stand on one leg.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:29 am

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The only 1 I planned on getting was Smokescreen, due to the color scheme, but now I might have to get all 3...
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Son of Carl » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:53 am

Today was a good day to be at home. I just got my Masterpiece Prowl and he is glorious. I've been waiting 7 years to have an MP Prowl in my hands, and I can say he was worth the wait. The only thing that I don't like about him is the fact that I am considering spending more money and buying a second one to display in car mode. Love this figure, though, I am a bit bias. Prowl has always been my favourite Autobot car.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Ravage XK » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:33 pm

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Just unboxed my MP Prowl and it's been a long time since I had nothing bad to say about a figure.

He is incredibly stable and posable, no loose limbs or floppy joints, no paint issues. The head sculpt is fantastic, he looks focused and every so slightly pissed off. I currently have him stood next to MP Sideswipe and I am very happy.

I even like the coin, which is utterly pointless.

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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby El Duque » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:56 pm

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Mine arrives Monday, can't wait!
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:48 am

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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Mykltron » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:59 am

Motto: "If I win again I'm still the champion. If you win HAH! that's just impossible.

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Son of Carl wrote:Love this figure, though, I am a bit bias.


Are you sure it makes you biased? Intense love of a character/vehicle would probably make me more critical because I'd know more about it.

Ravage XK wrote:If you were on the fence then you need to jump down on the side with the toy store.


Great phrase, that man!

The Masterpiece collection is certainly shaping up to be something special.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby ReinaHW » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:49 am

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Yes, yes he does. He is a truly a masterpiece in every sense of the word, everything about him is so well designed and comes together nicely in both modes.
Made a little picture showcase of him, as well as a what if thing with him and a Good Cop, Bad Cop thing -

http://reinahw.deviantart.com/art/Maste ... -405066784 - Masterpiece Prowl Picture Showcase

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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:10 pm

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God damn, can't wait to have all three of the Datsuns, the MP Sideswipe mold is fantastic, and this looks to be even grander!
God I love the new incarnation of the MP line, it used to be a line of stand alone figures you only got if you had a real interest in the character, but now it's something you need to get all of.
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Masterpiece Prowl - thoughts

Postby VioMeTriX » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:14 pm

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well i got my MP Prowl today. overall i am pleased with the figure, my only complaint is the arms could jave been a little tighter. his stransformation is just complex enough to enjoy, and hes very show accurate.

i am interested to hear others thoughts, and any defects or problems with this mold too.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Dean ML » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:20 pm

Dead Metal wrote:God I love the new incarnation of the MP line, it used to be a line of stand alone figures you only got if you had a real interest in the character, but now it's something you need to get all of.


Well said, man. With the 'bots being in scale, if he was in cartoon, he's a must. The MP line, thanks to Shogo Hazui, is trying to give us the full-on G1 experience. Gotta have 'em all.
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Re: Masterpiece Prowl - thoughts

Postby Mykltron » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:57 am

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VioMeTriX wrote:well i got my MP Prowl today. overall i am pleased with the figure, my only complaint is the arms could jave been a little tighter.


Mine are too tight! The elbow joint is a little tighter than the transformation-bend-joint above it, even after loosening the screws.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Son of Carl » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:21 am

Well, I gone doned it. I picked up a second Prowl off ebay. I bought him for descent price considering that he is coming with not one, but two of the Amazon exclusive shoulder cannons(which will look quite nice on Bluestreak).

I've been watching a few reviews on Prowl, and the one complaint that has been brought up (that I really don't understand) is, he doesn't roll very well, if at all. I prefer that my Masterpiece Transformers don't roll. I display my Masterpiece Transformers on shelves, as I assume most people do. I just like the piece of mind of knowing that I don't have to worry about my Autobots "rolling out" to their doom.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Ravage XK » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:04 pm

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Been looking for a way to get the Binaltech add on missile launchers for the Impreza mold to work on MP Prowl, they will fit but at a slight angle.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Son of Carl » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:04 pm

Actually, even the G1 launchers don't look too bad. They don't clip on, but the bottoms are flat, so you can sit them on his shoulders.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Suz » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:46 pm

Mine should arrive Monday, and I can't wait! Sure, I wish he and MP Sideswipe had metal parts and were taller, but this is the Prowl I've wanted since I was 6-7. I also like how faithful his robot design is to the cartoon, especially how his head is different from Bluestreak's and Smokescreen's.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Bowspearer » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:29 am

Suz, if you wish he were bigger, then you clearly haven't thought ahead to when we get Jetfire, combiners or even potentially Omega Supreme. Or would you actually potentially want a 4' Omega Supreme (seriously, think of the practicalities and the $2000 price tag that theoretical figure would potentially come with)? :P
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Dean ML » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:02 am

Suz wrote:Mine should arrive Monday, and I can't wait! Sure, I wish he and MP Sideswipe had metal parts and were taller, but this is the Prowl I've wanted since I was 6-7. I also like how faithful his robot design is to the cartoon, especially how his head is different from Bluestreak's and Smokescreen's.


Sticking to the G1 'bot scale chart is part of the appeal of MP 2.0. Shogo Hazui and crew are slowly recreating the whole G1 world, not merely making cool one-offs. It's a near 30 year old dream come true for 34 year old guys like me.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Mykltron » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:10 am

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Bowspearer wrote:Suz, if you wish he were bigger, then you clearly haven't thought ahead to when we get Jetfire, combiners or even potentially Omega Supreme. Or would you actually potentially want a 4' Omega Supreme (seriously, think of the practicalities and the $2000 price tag that theoretical figure would potentially come with)? :P


A Skyfire would be great! But an Omega Supreme in scale with MP-10? I don't think I'd bother.

Son of Carl wrote: and the one complaint that has been brought up (that I really don't understand) is, he doesn't roll very well, if at all.


Some people might want to push their TF cars around the floor making engine noises. The reason mine doesn't roll well is that the back right wheel is a bit sticky.
Most people will display theirs in robot mode so there's no chance of rolling off the shelf.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Bowspearer » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:15 am

Mykltron wrote:
Bowspearer wrote:Suz, if you wish he were bigger, then you clearly haven't thought ahead to when we get Jetfire, combiners or even potentially Omega Supreme. Or would you actually potentially want a 4' Omega Supreme (seriously, think of the practicalities and the $2000 price tag that theoretical figure would potentially come with)? :P


A Skyfire would be great! But an Omega Supreme in scale with MP-10? I don't think I'd bother.


That might be so, but considering this line is a license to print money, you can be sure he'll eventually happen.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Son of Carl » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:11 pm

Bowspearer wrote:
That might be so, but considering this line is a license to print money, you can be sure he'll eventually happen.


That would be amazing! I imagine he would be about the same size as Generations Metroplex.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Suz » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:55 pm

Bowspearer wrote:Suz, if you wish he were bigger, then you clearly haven't thought ahead to when we get Jetfire, combiners or even potentially Omega Supreme. Or would you actually potentially want a 4' Omega Supreme (seriously, think of the practicalities and the $2000 price tag that theoretical figure would potentially come with)? :P
Actually, I was thinking of the MP figures I already have (Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker, & Grimlock) and how small Sideswipe is in comparison. I already know why he is, I just wish he were as tall as the Planes.

But yes, MP versions of Jetfire and the Combiners would be monstrous! I'm not even sure I'd get them if they're ever made :shock:
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby Bowspearer » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:58 pm

That's just it though- if the cars were the size of the seekers, then the Seekers and Prime would be one and a half to double the size they are now. Even there you're starting to run into the same problem.
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Re: MP Prowl: Does He REALLY Deserve The Title MASTERPIECE?

Postby spongedude93 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:24 pm

I bought Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen all in one order so I still have a little while to wait before getting my hands on my figure.
One thing I've quickly learned is that if you get wishywashy prepare to pay more (Thanks Red alert #-o)
Masterpiece has rapidly evolved from an annual luxury figure into THE line to collect. Given whats happened in the last, what, 18 months? We've jumped from MP12 to 19? And with more additions already being announced for next year its about time to start sucking up to the boss for that raise.
But at the end of the day those Autobots on my shelf do look good facing off against their uncruzamatic adversary and I'm stoked to add more to the collection in the near future.

On a side note, will Bumblebee be, like, deluxe size?
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