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by **piranacon** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:16 am

it looks optional if you want the extra parts on the hips or legs,

by **jimsloth** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:58 am

crap. Wonder how much work it will take to reverse engineer those legs. Yea, I'll still get it. and its still 20X better than the classic overweight bastard they're making. not too sure on the new nosecone either. better, but less starscream. Actually I want both versions, the first one for starscream, the second for skywarp. Then I'd be happiest.

by **Hobbyist Prime** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:12 pm

Hate the skinny legs and small feet! I do however love the base. I won't know if I want to pick one up till I see it in person!

News Credits: 4 · by **the purifyer** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:48 pm

I sure as hell want to see the final version of this...though i wouldve liked it if they just kept him as the first proto looked more show accurate now he looks like something from Gundam Seed *shudders* I'll still buy him though...

by **Ra88** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:36 pm

For some reason it doesn't bother me anymore that he has skirts...I mean, holy ****, if they're removeable he'll be freaking PERFECT. :shock:

And is that WAIST articulation I see?!? How the hell did they manage to put that in!?! :shock:

by **incecticons forever** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:50 pm

personally i like the changes the alt mode with the update looks more realistic than the first. this is the one thing that always bothers me about OP.

by **Greyryder** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:15 am

I still find the addition of the conformal fuel tanks to be odd. My understanding is those aren't seen much outside of the two seat F-15E. That waist kibble really should be mounted on the sides of the legs, on a sliding joint.

The waist kibble just looks bad. And, I don't mean bad as in "it's not G1" I mean bad as in "looks goofy, in any context."

Why the hell do the knees bend backwards?

*waits for Classics*

by **BillyBadAss** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:40 pm

Greyryder wrote:..Why the hell do the knees bend backwards?

The kness bend back for extra crotch-thrust.

.billy

by **Hobbyist Prime** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:20 pm

BillyBadAss wrote:The kness bend back for extra crotch-thrust.

.billy

Know any good plastic surgeons??? lol

by **gawd6sic6** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:19 am

billy , billy , billy... do we really need to bring back all the crotch trusting goodness that has happened in the past?? :roll:

* lets go of the sarcasm button*

by **tintin** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:15 am

Hm... This might just go to replace an idea I've had for some time... Of course some stuff needs to be bashed as it is, but I'm going for something more... "All out." You'll see when I start it... :twisted:

(Here's a hint: It's what I was wanting a Cyb Supreme Screamer for.)

by **Pepie** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:16 am

BillyBadAss wrote:
Greyryder wrote:..Why the hell do the knees bend backwards?

The kness bend back for extra crotch-thrust.

.billy

lol.. this just proved the new SS is imba compared to the old one.
Ehr wait..

No seriously is has it goods, look at the altmode.. the wheels pop in far better now.. it looked cheap before.
The skirt.. well.. perhaps like Ra88 is removable.. well at least with a dremel and some inventive connectors.
The feet.. are still tiny.. but imo they fit SS in a way..

And where did you notice the waist articulation ? ( or did you meant that crotch-thrust)

by **piranacon** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:32 am

some of the pictures look like he only has 2 fingers on each hand, but a set of well articulated fingers lol

by **Tramp** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:25 am

You know, given the placement of the Tail assembly/hip guards in robot mode, you could simply rotate them fully around up behind the wings. that would eliminate your whole ?skirt? issue.

by **Ra88** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:01 pm

Tramp wrote:You know, given the placement of the Tail assembly/hip guards in robot mode, you could simply rotate them fully around up behind the wings. that would eliminate your whole ?skirt? issue.

....You just made me realize that might be EXACTLY what's going to happen. The gap between the back and wings is a perfect size for the skirts, and it might not have been photographed that way because of the weak resin joints.

by **Ra88** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:13 am

Here's what I meant:

by **Lord_Loqi** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:19 am

Ya but that'll look even more odd cause the connector is on the hips. That and it'd ruin any attempts at waist articulation.

by **Tramp** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:33 am

Lord_Loqi wrote:Ya but that'll look even more odd cause the connector is on the hips. That and it'd ruin any attempts at waist articulation.

It wouldn?t look odd at all, and, given that the canopy stops below waist level, I don?t thing he has any waist articualtion anyway.

by **TFLobo** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:53 pm

Old one > New one.

But it looks like they cleaned up the underside of the plane mode and I like that they got rid of the connectors between the cannons and the arms.

Hopefully it won't be too hard to bash the legs back to the old version.

by **Dark_Fool** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:18 pm

I'm actually liking the look of this

I may even buy one

by **tentagil** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:03 am

Considering that non of those shots show him turned at the waist at all I have the bad feeling that there is no waist articulation. Not a big fan of the new legs either. Jsut prefer the more classic look to the legs, that and I think big legs always look better on TFs. Otherwise he looks kinda top heavy with those big arms and little chicken legs.

by **Ra88** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:17 pm

Please let this be fake...Please let this be fake...Please let this be fake...

by **Lord_Loqi** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:27 pm

Maybe if they got rid of the red, it'd look better. the paint scheme seems alternatorish.

Now that I think about it, they had planned an alternator jet line and some tanks. they were supposed to be a smaller scale than the alts but still bigger. i wonder if that's where the starscream came from.

by **Ra88** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:46 pm

Well, appearantly that's MP Starscream, but don't worry! There are two versions, the lowvis shown and a toon-accurate one. There's just one, small catch...

...YOU HAVE TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THEIR CLUB IN ORDER TO GET THE TOON-ACCURATE ONE WITH CROWN FOR THE 'MEASLY' PRICE OF 116 DOLLARS.

Quote:
Dragonx76Here's the kicker, there was a STARS Membership card on display. When sign up is available, when you sign up as a STARS member you will be able to purchase items at a membership price. Yes there is a membership fee & the first 2 items will be Roller for MP Convoy membership price at 3,000 Yen (about $27 USD) & a animated cartoon color version of MP Starscream with Crown at a membership price of 12,800 Yen (about $116 USD)...

I'll post more info as it comes in...

SCREW THEM! I'll wait for the Hasbro version, and see if that comes in the PROPER colors!