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Michael Bay must die!!!
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Sonray wrote:It does look realistic, but as realistic and fantastic as it looks it still wouldnt work in a live action movie.
The G1 designs are just so old fashioned now, and these guys are supposed to be highly advanced robots. If people saw these characters looking like this they wouldnt be able to beleive that they are super-advanced alien robots when they look like blocky, dirty, spot-weilded together, imperfect almost human made looking robots.
This old style should just be left alone where it belongs respectfully and loved for what it is and when it was.
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Riotflea wrote:Sonray wrote:It does look realistic, but as realistic and fantastic as it looks it still wouldnt work in a live action movie.
The G1 designs are just so old fashioned now, and these guys are supposed to be highly advanced robots. If people saw these characters looking like this they wouldnt be able to beleive that they are super-advanced alien robots when they look like blocky, dirty, spot-weilded together, imperfect almost human made looking robots.
This old style should just be left alone where it belongs respectfully and loved for what it is and when it was.
*sigh*
Or, you know, having crashed on here millions of years ago could have left them something less than the brilliant alien technology they WERE, requiring human ingenuity to get them decently functional.
But if one did THAT, then the G1 story couldn't be THOROUGHLY pissed on.
Sonray wrote:Riotflea wrote:Sonray wrote:It does look realistic, but as realistic and fantastic as it looks it still wouldnt work in a live action movie.
The G1 designs are just so old fashioned now, and these guys are supposed to be highly advanced robots. If people saw these characters looking like this they wouldnt be able to beleive that they are super-advanced alien robots when they look like blocky, dirty, spot-weilded together, imperfect almost human made looking robots.
This old style should just be left alone where it belongs respectfully and loved for what it is and when it was.
*sigh*
Or, you know, having crashed on here millions of years ago could have left them something less than the brilliant alien technology they WERE, requiring human ingenuity to get them decently functional.
But if one did THAT, then the G1 story couldn't be THOROUGHLY pissed on.
This doesnt have anything to do with the freaking story! Im talking about how things LOOK on the big screen in a live action movie. These designs simply WOULDNT HAVE WORKED in such a medium.
Predaprince wrote:Sonray wrote:Riotflea wrote:Sonray wrote:It does look realistic, but as realistic and fantastic as it looks it still wouldnt work in a live action movie.
The G1 designs are just so old fashioned now, and these guys are supposed to be highly advanced robots. If people saw these characters looking like this they wouldnt be able to beleive that they are super-advanced alien robots when they look like blocky, dirty, spot-weilded together, imperfect almost human made looking robots.
This old style should just be left alone where it belongs respectfully and loved for what it is and when it was.
*sigh*
Or, you know, having crashed on here millions of years ago could have left them something less than the brilliant alien technology they WERE, requiring human ingenuity to get them decently functional.
But if one did THAT, then the G1 story couldn't be THOROUGHLY pissed on.
This doesnt have anything to do with the freaking story! Im talking about how things LOOK on the big screen in a live action movie. These designs simply WOULDNT HAVE WORKED in such a medium.
Just because you believe that doesn't make it truth. Riotflea is stating another possibility that COULD have been taken with the live-action film rather than the path that has been taken. He is stating his opinion just as you are stating yours and, hence, there is no reason for you to get upset.
Predaprince wrote:Again,
Just because you believe that doesn't make it truth.
Riotflea is stating another possibility that COULD have been taken with the live-action film rather than the path that has been taken. He is stating his opinion just as you are stating yours and, hence, there is no reason for you to get upset.
I am listening, but you seem to think that anyone who has a different opinion than your own is trying to usurp your opinions/beliefs. Time to realize that this forum is a medium for all members to voice their opinions.
Sonray wrote:I know alot and too much about films and the industry and what a general audience want/can beleive in on screen to just be told to shut up and accept the possibility that these old designs "could" have worked in a live action movie.
They would have been perfectly acceptable in a TMNT style cg animated feature, but not in live action especially if the film makers are going for a realistic approach.
Thats all im saying on the matter.
Thats what I've been trying to say for a long time! Just because its G1 (or any other Tf toon) doesn't mean it has to be all blocky. It can be a hybrid of sorts where it can look alien roboty but not look like a bunch of blocks stacked onto each other. I doubt if we ever met the Tfs in real life, that they would be as blocky as they are in the cartoon.Riotflea wrote:Sonray wrote:I know alot and too much about films and the industry and what a general audience want/can beleive in on screen to just be told to shut up and accept the possibility that these old designs "could" have worked in a live action movie.
They would have been perfectly acceptable in a TMNT style cg animated feature, but not in live action especially if the film makers are going for a realistic approach.
Thats all im saying on the matter.
I am definitely loud that I believe these new designs are "CGI shard-bots", but I never believed it would be sane or credible to reuse the blocky, oldschool stuff.
I mean, we're seeing feast or famine here.
G1 - Way too blocky.
Michael Bay - Uneccessarily CGI and shardy.
The way to have gone was a hybrid, with far more attention to moving joints being realistic instead of just one block hanging off another block by a small pin.
But the collapsible shards way is wrong too, with it's own problems.
I do believe that had they gone to talented fans for inspiration on hybridized designs, things could have kicked much ass.
I don't feel even a hint of intellectual dishonesty in saying they really just decided to do things their own way, source content be damned. (Well, as far as public fan opinion would allow them to anyway).
EDIT: As far as the toys go, the "muscley" hybrid joints I pictured in my head could have been translated in toy form.
Like, you'd pull out, say, Blaster's arm from his body, but a sheath of "muscley'lookin' wire guts would slide out over top the ball joints... to make it look less fake between limb and body.
(I know what I mean... was that too abstract?)
Zombie Starscream wrote: Thats what I've been trying to say for a long time! Just because its G1 (or any other Tf toon) doesn't mean it has to be all blocky. It can be a hybrid of sorts where it can look alien roboty but not look like a bunch of blocks stacked onto each other. I doubt if we ever met the Tfs in real life, that they would be as blocky as they are in the cartoon.
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