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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 06, 2012 9:06 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Keselowski. Ugh. :BANG_HEAD:

What's wrong with him?

Rodimus Prime wrote:But at least Rowdy is back on track and getting top 3s. Hopefully it stays that way and he'll be high up when the Chase comes around.

And Hendrick (and especially Dale Jr.) was denied a victory yet again. :APPLAUSE: :DANCE:

Since you show your joy for Hendrick's failure to reach 200 wins, I hope Happy Harvick gives Rowdy a nice little DNF at Darlington.
However, I think Junior's due for retirement soon if he can't win one race by the end of his contract. He's really just taking up space at Hendrick which could be given to someone of higher potential.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 07, 2012 12:26 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Keselowski. Ugh. :BANG_HEAD:

What's wrong with him?


He's a douchebag.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But at least Rowdy is back on track and getting top 3s. Hopefully it stays that way and he'll be high up when the Chase comes around.

And Hendrick (and especially Dale Jr.) was denied a victory yet again. :APPLAUSE: :DANCE:

Since you show your joy for Hendrick's failure to reach 200 wins, I hope Happy Harvick gives Rowdy a nice little DNF at Darlington.


As long as he doesn't cry and bitch when Kyle retaliates.

However, I think Junior's due for retirement soon if he can't win one race by the end of his contract. He's really just taking up space at Hendrick which could be given to someone of higher potential.


Like maybe his father...?

When does his contract expire?
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon May 07, 2012 6:41 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Keselowski. Ugh. :BANG_HEAD:

What's wrong with him?


He's a douchebag.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But at least Rowdy is back on track and getting top 3s. Hopefully it stays that way and he'll be high up when the Chase comes around.

And Hendrick (and especially Dale Jr.) was denied a victory yet again. :APPLAUSE: :DANCE:

Since you show your joy for Hendrick's failure to reach 200 wins, I hope Happy Harvick gives Rowdy a nice little DNF at Darlington.


As long as he doesn't cry and bitch when Kyle retaliates.

However, I think Junior's due for retirement soon if he can't win one race by the end of his contract. He's really just taking up space at Hendrick which could be given to someone of higher potential.


Like maybe his father...?

When does his contract expire?

- Believe it or not, Kyle Busch has been prone to douchebag tendencies. Oh yeah, he intentionally wrecked someone last year. He also was penalized another time, where he gave the official an obscene gesture and got penalized a second time.
- Harvick can find a way to whine about anything. Because nothing is ever his fault. Especially when he causes wrecks that he ends up getting wrecked in.
- I don't know when Joonyer's contract ends. All I know is that he signed an extension last year. Trevor Bayne could do a better job than he can.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Sat May 12, 2012 9:45 pm

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200. 'Nuff said.

Did anyone happen to catch where one of the #39's pit crew members went ballistic on the #51 team? What an idiot. He had no right to act like that. So, basically if the car in front of you spins out, and you slow down and the car behind you doesn't slow down in time, it turns into an intentional wreck by the car that first spun out? Seems legit. :-?
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 13, 2012 12:36 pm

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OptiMagnus wrote:200. 'Nuff said.


Took them long enough...

At least Kyle is climbing in the standings now.

And Danica got lapped so early. :lol: Yeah, she's awesome.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 13, 2012 9:10 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:And Danica got lapped so early. :lol: Yeah, she's awesome.

Then YOU get in her car for a few races and show her how to drive. If you do any better, I'll shut up. I don't think Tony Stewart would just hire a random guy off the street though...

By the way, she's doing decently in the Nationwide Series. She finished 12th on Friday in her first try at Darlington. Plus, she led laps and pushed other cars to the front at Talladega. Obviously she isn't afraid of tough tracks like she was two years ago. She thought anyone who dared to nudge or bump her should get penalized. :lol:
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 14, 2012 6:13 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:And Danica got lapped so early. :lol: Yeah, she's awesome.

Then YOU get in her car for a few races and show her how to drive. If you do any better, I'll shut up. I don't think Tony Stewart would just hire a random guy off the street though...


I wish. I'm not saying she's bad, I'm saying she's not good enough. But she will be over time. Tony isn't dumb.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon May 14, 2012 7:23 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I wish. I'm not saying she's bad, I'm saying she's not good enough. But she will be over time. Tony isn't dumb.

You're right. He's definitely not stupid. He's not going to turn down the most popular female auto racing driver in the world. That's too much money to be made. Plus, I'm sure a certain car owner who isn't allowed a fifth team helped out in getting that new Cup team off the ground. Danica races for him in Nationwide and Stewart-Haas uses his engines. Hmm...
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 14, 2012 8:38 pm

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Yeah, I'm sick of Hendrick and his teams. To bad 3 of his 4 drivers are talented and he's loaded. The only time I tolerated him was when Mark Martin drove for him.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Tue May 15, 2012 9:21 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, I'm sick of Hendrick and his teams. To bad 3 of his 4 drivers are talented and he's loaded. The only time I tolerated him was when Mark Martin drove for him.

My problem with all the money he has is that the LEAST talented one (assuming you mean Dale) is making at least half of the entire team's money just for getting in the race car. And I was excited when he made his announcement in '07, but that was short-lived. They should have gotten rid of Casey Mears instead of Kyle Busch if they HAD to hire Jr. I'm not sure if hiring Joonyer was Hendrick's best or worst decision he ever made. Money-wise, he's lucky he got him to sign a contract. Talent-wise, he let go of NASCAR's best young superstar.
Currently, I really only like 2 of his drivers: Jeff and Kasey. The other two don't even seem to give a s*** about team cooperation anymore.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed May 16, 2012 3:27 pm

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Yeah, I meant Dale. And you're right, he's become Hendrick's golden goose, as if he needed one. I don't even mind Dale himself, he's a nice enough guy. But his fans (mostly his father's before him) need to stop seeing Senior in him, because he'll never be half the driver his father was. They need to admit this fact and move on.

I used to hate Gordon, but this hate has transferred to Johnson. And I liked Jeff's '09 Megatron car. I wish I could get a 1:24 die cast of it, but I don't think they made one.

And yeah, if Hendrick kept Kyle and added Kahne, he would have an awesome lineup. I love Gibbs, but Hendrick's equipment is just a bit better. But Kyle is a more talented driver than Johnson or Jr. ever were. He and Gordon would own HMS if they teamed up on the track, Jeff might even have 2 or 3 of Jimmie's titles, putting him up there with Senior, and no doubt Kyle would have at least 1 by now.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Thu May 17, 2012 6:44 pm

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EXACTLY! Everyone has these irrational expectations of Jr just because he's DALE EARNHARDT Jr. One of these days they're going to have to realize that Jr isn't his father. No one will ever be Dale Sr.

Speaking of Dale Sr, I've been watching some of the IROC races he was in. I forgot how much fun he was to watch. IROC was a cool series though. I wish it hadn't gone under, because it basically had restrictor plate style races on a lot of the tracks. I think the absence of Dale and some of the retiring veterans lowered fan interest in the series, but I wish someone would try to bring it back.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 20, 2012 8:03 pm

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What a dumb all-star race. That mandatory "pit stop" and putting the segment leaders at the front was a dumb idea. It basically guaranteed them to finish in the top 3. They should just go back to giving the segment leaders a sizable prize. The all-star race used to be a 'give it all you got every lap' shootout. I'm not going to say that the cruising around strategy was unfair- it didn't violate the rules. But it's not fair for the other 21 because they lose their chances of winning for every segment they don't lead the final lap of. Whoever leads the first segment has the advantage because he only needs to really race for that one segment, then he can back off until he gets first place back and easily win the race, and the leader of segment 2 will get second because he used his car more than the segment 1 leader but less than segment 3, and the same situation with the segment 3 leader. Everyone else is basically screwed because their cars are fried in comparison.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 27, 2012 9:15 pm

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OptiMagnus wrote:200. 'Nuff said.


Took them long enough...

And they're already at 201.
I enjoyed the 600 though. I'm glad Kasey got his 3rd. Not too many guys can say they've won 3 600s.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 27, 2012 11:56 pm

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OptiMagnus wrote:200. 'Nuff said.


Took them long enough...

And they're already at 201.
I enjoyed the 600 though. I'm glad Kasey got his 3rd. Not too many guys can say they've won 3 600s.


Yeah, it's my favorite race after the 500 and Bristol. And I like Kasey even though he's with HMS. At least Johnson didn't win. I wonder if the gas man got fired yet. :lol:
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon May 28, 2012 5:30 pm

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OptiMagnus wrote:200. 'Nuff said.


Took them long enough...

And they're already at 201.
I enjoyed the 600 though. I'm glad Kasey got his 3rd. Not too many guys can say they've won 3 600s.


Yeah, it's my favorite race after the 500 and Bristol. And I like Kasey even though he's with HMS. At least Johnson didn't win. I wonder if the gas man got fired yet. :lol:

Well, he and Gordon's gas man both need to step it up. Granted, the jack man supposedly has the duty of waiting for the gas can to come out, but it think the gas man should just pull the can out if the car drops. They always try to keep it in for those last few seconds. I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes in the race though.

On another note, I'm actually planning my second trip to Charlotte, NC this summer. I'm going to visit the University of NC in Charlotte as one of my college options. It's actually not too far from the speedway. I'm probably going to visit some of the race shops again and take another tour of the speedway. There's so much fun stuff to do.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

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:lol: That is great! It might be a good idea though...
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:50 pm

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Imagine how much fun it would be? It would be real life Death Race! They would have to repave every track after every race though...
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Imagine how much fun it would be? It would be real life Death Race! They would have to repave every track after every race though...

Rivalries might end rather abruptly also...
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:18 pm

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Wow, what a finish. I'm usually not 1 for road races, but this 1 had a hell of an ending. I'm just glad that idiot Keselowski didn't win. I like Marcos Ambrose, glad he made it 2 in a row. Keselowski, what a ******. Kyle dominated and should have had the win. I hope NASCAR does something about Keselowski, especially since he even said he would do something after the Nationwide race yesterday. He wrecked Kyle on purpose. He could have backed off, doesn't matter what he says. I wonder if the suits are going to punish him or just let him get away with it. Also, I feel bad for Tony Stewart, he was tearing up the track before that spin. :lol: @ Joonyer. Loser.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:42 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow, what a finish. I'm usually not 1 for road races, but this 1 had a hell of an ending. I'm just glad that idiot Keselowski didn't win. I like Marcos Ambrose, glad he made it 2 in a row. Keselowski, what a ******. Kyle dominated and should have had the win. I hope NASCAR does something about Keselowski, especially since he even said he would do something after the Nationwide race yesterday. He wrecked Kyle on purpose. He could have backed off, doesn't matter what he says. I wonder if the suits are going to punish him or just let him get away with it. Also, I feel bad for Tony Stewart, he was tearing up the track before that spin. :lol: @ Joonyer. Loser.

That was one of the best finishes I've ever seen in NASCAR. I love when road races end like that, because it makes open wheel series seem even more boring.
And I have no sympathy for Kyle Busch. His bad luck is only a product of his actions last year. I'm sure he'll rebound next year though.
I think Keselowski was aggressive but didn't wreck Kyle on purpose. They both went for the same space at the same time, and Brad wasn't just going to slam on the brakes to let Kyle move up in front of him, especially with Marcos Ambrose breathing down his neck already. Brad does, however, need to watch his attitude. I will commend him for being a good sport after the race though.
And I feel really bad for both Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon. Their whole race changed in a matter of seconds. And yes, Dale Jr has found yet another reason to give his own fans less credibility. He did admit he made a mistake, though.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:32 am

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OptiMagnus wrote:That was one of the best finishes I've ever seen in NASCAR. I love when road races end like that, because it makes open wheel series seem even more boring.


Let me rephrase what i said earlier: I don't like Sonoma, I like Watkins Glen. Sonoma is boring.

And I have no sympathy for Kyle Busch. His bad luck is only a product of his actions last year. I'm sure he'll rebound next year though.


And what was so bad last year? That he didn't take shit from that little bitch Harvick?

I think Keselowski was aggressive but didn't wreck Kyle on purpose. They both went for the same space at the same time, and Brad wasn't just going to slam on the brakes to let Kyle move up in front of him, especially with Marcos Ambrose breathing down his neck already.


Were we watching the same race? Kyle started fishtailing due to the oil on the track (which, contrary to what Kes said post-race, did not come from Kyle, it came from Jason Leffler earlier in the race, and should have been cleaned up by NASCAR) and Kes moved right in, sticking the nose of the car to the back quarter panel of Kyle's car. What was gonna happen? Of course he was going to spin out. I'm not saying he should have let Kyle go, but wait until he straightens out and race him clean. But Keselowski didn't do that, because he can't. Kyle would have beat him, so he had to cheat.

I will commend him for being a good sport after the race though.


And they were so ironic and hypocritical considering what he did to Kyle.

And I feel really bad for both Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon.


Yeah, Smoke had a monster to drive. He was tearing through the field until he spun out. Blame belongs in the same place it does (mostly) in Kyle's wreck. NASCAR. They didn't clean the track properly. Gordon? I don't feel that bad for him. He had a shit car to start with. I'm not saying I'm happy for his misfortune, but he didn't have it flipped upside on him like Tony did.

And yes, Dale Jr has found yet another reason to give his own fans less credibility. He did admit he made a mistake, though.


Yeah, and even though I love ragging on the guy as well as his fans, I will give him this: once again, the blame belongs on NASCAR. The track wasn't clean.
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Re: NASCAR 2012 Discussion Thread

Postby OptiMagnus » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:47 am

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You Busch fans never seem to remember that Truck Series wreck at Texas, do you?

Anyway, I personally agree that NASCAR could have done something about the oil. ARCA will do a green-white-checkered after the white flag is shown so races never end under caution, so why can't NASCAR? Maybe I'm biased just because some of my favorite drivers complained about it, but you can only control the car so much on a sheet of oil. Yeah, maybe strategies would have been compromised, and maybe the finish wouldn't have been AS crazy as it was, but is NASCAR here to spoon feed teams by complying with their strategies? No. Everyone is responsible for finding their own adaptations to different circumstances. And if NASCAR is so concerned about safety, they might need a reality check. They're so concerned about lower ratings they'd rather let everyone spin out on the oil and possibly cause wrecks than throw out a caution and red flag the race then restart and risk one guy getting away with the lead.
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OptiMagnus wrote:That was one of the best finishes I've ever seen in NASCAR. I love when road races end like that, because it makes open wheel series seem even more boring.
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Ok, so i have to ask..

What is the apeal of Nascar for you guys and why the hate for open wheel racing? I'm honestly curous to know what it is that many find apealing in this sport.
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