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What are these worth and are they Knock offs? I'm negotiating with him.

I think this might be the real deal?



This must be and looks KO in my opinion? Joints are a little loose and paint is so so.







Not sure if this is KO but very nice?





He claims this is a original Fansproject Commander?

I own them all.

The SG Junkion is legit. I dont know of any KO's of this mold yet. Value $60-80

The Blue Prime is a high quality KO of Henkei Prime in Diaclone colors Value $40-60

The Sunstorm is a high quality KO from CHMS. Value $25-40

The DIA Commander Trailer is a KO. But it has a face sculpt I have never seen before. Maybe a KO of the KO ? Value of the original KO $50-65

Rated X wrote:I own them all.

The SG Junkion is legit. I dont know of any KO's of this mold yet. Value $60-80

The Blue Prime is a high quality KO of Henkei Prime in Diaclone colors Value $40-60

The Sunstorm is a high quality KO from CHMS. Value $25-40

The DIA Commander Trailer is a KO. But it has a face sculpt I have never seen before. Maybe a KO of the KO ? Value of the original KO $50-65

On the commander there are 3 faces that you can interchange that aren't pictured. He says it's original. Do you see other signs other than the face that tells its KO?

The blue Prime is a KO and it typically sells with a KO of the DIA armor. The face is one of three it comes with; it's a KO too probably. The head looks somewhat shallower than a legit DIA Commander, so it's likely it's a KO.

I have the blue prime and KO DIA armor and it's the worst money I ever spent. The Prime is floppy and that door piece hardly ever stays up, even after thickening the hinge with glue. The armor falls off the prime easily and it typically needs modding in order to fit decently.

The Sunstorm, however, is worth buying. I've seen KO Seekers go for $30, but I've seen them go for even lower. Mine has some problems, but there's no regreats here for buying him.

The SG Junkyard may go higher then $60, but I don't typically buy Botcon. $60 seems pretty low, but you could try it. Typically he sells with another two Junkions, so maybe breaking that up may make him worth a little less.

I got the Botcon Junkion for $40 Sunstorm for $35 but he won't let Kold Blue go unless I buy the trailer and the set won't part with him for anything less than $115? Is it worth the $115 for that set?

Transformers Hoarder wrote:I got the Botcon Junkion for $40 Sunstorm for $35 but he won't let Kold Blue go unless I buy the trailer and the set won't part with him for anything less than $115? Is it worth the $115 for that set?

Great price for the Junkion. As for Kold blue ...

http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php ... cts_id=566

Let's go with "no". Even at Chimungmung's price it's a little too steep for what it is.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Transformers Hoarder wrote:I got the Botcon Junkion for $40 Sunstorm for $35 but he won't let Kold Blue go unless I buy the trailer and the set won't part with him for anything less than $115? Is it worth the $115 for that set?

Great price for the Junkion. As for Kold blue ...

http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php ... cts_id=566

Let's go with "no". Even at Chimungmung's price it's a little too steep for what it is.

So $105 shipped new! I'm going to show him that listing and offer $85 that's fair? I can't get that nice blue convoy out my head.

Ok guys I need someone to confirm this. He says the KO version has missing screw holes in the arm/hand attachment and the real deal has the screw holes. Is he Blowing smoke up my butt?

Transformers Hoarder wrote:

Rated X wrote:I own them all.

The SG Junkion is legit. I dont know of any KO's of this mold yet. Value $60-80

The Blue Prime is a high quality KO of Henkei Prime in Diaclone colors Value $40-60

The Sunstorm is a high quality KO from CHMS. Value $25-40

The DIA Commander Trailer is a KO. But it has a face sculpt I have never seen before. Maybe a KO of the KO ? Value of the original KO $50-65

On the commander there are 3 faces that you can interchange that aren't pictured. He says it's original. Do you see other signs other than the face that tells its KO?

I reconize the face sculpt now. It just looks different with the white/silver. That face comes with KO Shadow Commander but was not included with KO DIA Commander. So there is a pretty good chance it is legit and not a KO. The only way to tell the KO version of this mold from the legit version is to buy it and try it on a classics Prime. If the shoulders and arms fit nice and tight it is legit. If you need to apply foam padding to the inside of the armor to make it hold tight, it's the KO. Once you fix that issue, the KO is a great deal money wise. Looks exactly the same. No QC issues with the paint apps. Real nice.

Transformers Hoarder wrote:Ok guys I need someone to confirm this. He says the KO version has missing screw holes in the arm/hand attachment and the real deal has the screw holes. Is he Blowing smoke up my butt?

My KO does not have the screw holes so he must be telling the truth. Also keep in mind that the KO DIA Armor was available before the Blue Prime came out at KO Toys. There is a good chance he didnt purchase them as a set together. He might have been using a Red Prime with the Legit DIA Armor and got the blue Prime later on. If it's legit, I would offer $100 to meet him in the middle.

Rated X wrote:

Transformers Hoarder wrote:Ok guys I need someone to confirm this. He says the KO version has missing screw holes in the arm/hand attachment and the real deal has the screw holes. Is he Blowing smoke up my butt?

My KO does not have the screw holes so he must be telling the truth. Also keep in mind that the KO DIA Armor was available before the Blue Prime came out at KO Toys. There is a good chance he didnt purchase them as a set together. He might have been using a Red Prime with the Legit DIA Armor and got the blue Prime later on. If it's legit, I would offer $100 to meet him in the middle.

So if you know you own a KO and it doesn't have screw holes, his story sounds real good right now. If this is legit, wasn't it a Japan only exclusive limited to only 500? Not that it matters since a KO is almost spot on. It might be worth alot more?

Guys, thanks for all your help. I've agreed to give him the $115 for both original non KO TFX-01J D.I.A. Commander and Kold Blue Convoy.

Please excuse my boys messy playroom in the background.

Congradulations. You got a good deal. The original was limited to 500 I think, but it didnt sell quick because there are no other Diaclone classics figures out there other than customs. If you dont mind a little kitbashing and minor painting, it's really easy to create a Diaclone army. You might want to buy yourself a cheap $12 KO Prime for the armor so you can enjoy the blue Prime on display. Enjoy !