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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:39 am

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I hope this time it will be focused less on human shenanigans and more on robot shenanigans.

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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:42 am

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T-Macksimus wrote: for the life of me, I can't see why people get excited over it and want to see it bastardized yet again. :-x


For the same reason so many people saw the trilogy: because it's Transformers on the big screen, and it's FUN.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Gundamu » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:04 am

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"I want to go a little off [the planet] but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded."
He does know he's making a movie about giant, sentient, transforming alien robots, right? *facepalm*
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby griftimus prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:21 am

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it will be lame just like the other 3. they just keep getting worse and worse. and a beast wars movie would be lame. i would not be apposed to a new toyline though
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:51 am

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griftimus prime wrote:it will be lame just like the other 3. they just keep getting worse and worse.


Yet you will see it, just like every other negative nancy in this thread. :)
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:53 am

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zodconvoy wrote:We are talking possible "Last Stand of the Wreckers" movie here!


Let's hope not. The only character I'd like to see from that story is Overlord.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby AutoBorst » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:33 am

God, please make him stop. I was really happy when he said TF3 was his last movie, now here he is with a fourth film.

"It's not a reboot!" That's too bad because it's exactly what it should be, including booting his ass off this film.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Lord Onixprime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:41 am

xyl360 wrote:Hmm...new planet, new cast, new takes on the appearance of the robots and the first three movies are in the 'history' of this new film?

I smell BEAST WARS!!! :twisted:


Says nothing about a new planet, just possible off planet stuff as well (as if the other three didn't have scenes and the like off planet :roll: )

And please, don't wish that upon Beast Wars. I don't want to see just how Bay might ruin my childhood. Don't get me wrong, the movies aren't bad, but last think I want is Optimus Primal and Cheetor sitting around making crotch jokes about Dinobot.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:59 am

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Hopefully the higher ups at Paramount will put the breaks on this as well so that the script is good, just like they've done with G.I. Joe, TMNT and some other upcoming films.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby rpetras » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:01 am

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The movie-verse has clearly stated that there are other cybertronians that are not on earth.

They could focus on a different group of autobots and decepticons that either start out in space, or leave from earth to space.

So a young commander, Rodimus, has to pursue Galvatrron.

Of course it is the Bay-verse so Rodimus is a blue truck, and Galvatron's earth mode is a yellow taxi :roll:

Or maybe it'll be live action Rescue Bots ... who knows :michaelbay:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby zodconvoy » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:10 am

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Seibertron wrote:Hopefully the higher ups at Paramount will put the breaks on this as well so that the script is good, just like they've done with G.I. Joe, TMNT and some other upcoming films.


They found out the hard way with Battleship that these thing do not sell themselves and automatically make a billion dollars. The fact that Paramount evidently ask Hasbro to recall and sit on their entire GIJoe line for 2012 because they wanted to f*ck with them movie for another 10 months after it's in the can just goes to show how little the two side in this understand each other.

And the director flat out said Bay was wrong about the Turtles being aliens and it was the fan backlash to Bay being wrong that had them start over again from scratch. The ooze that mutates them was going to be alien (an industrial byproduct of Krang's people) just like it's always been but Bay only half listened to the pitch so all he heard was the word "alien".
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby MightyMagnus78 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:31 am

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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby #Sideways# » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:47 am

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Off planet? Away from Earth with no humans and all Transformer (Hopefully)? That would be a change.

As for Last Stand of the Wreckers movie... Hm. You know, I think that it could be pulled off well.

New cast of Characters means that he may actually drop the characters that we know and love (*Cough* Optimus *Cough*) back on Earth. Maybe he will work it like a spinoff?

I agree with Seibertron, everything Bay says is to be taken with a grain of salt. I mean, didn't he say that the Cloverfield Monster was going to be the enemy in ROTF? Please. Save that for the Fanfics.

Anyone else get a chuckle out of Bay's slam on The Amazing Spider-Man?
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Octocon » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:04 am

I don't like to be so trait but this just make me laugh.

"i don't want to go too scifi".... in my Sci-fi action movie.

I understood what he ment but his wording just make me laugh (helped by the fact Transformers premise is mostly squandered potential in his hands.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby gavinfuzzy » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:06 am

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They better not redesign all the characters...
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Postby BeastWarsFTW » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:08 am

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Here is my two cents. I believe earlier that Bay stated that the only returning characters would be Optimus and Bumblebee (I really hope Bee dies this time!). I don't think he would do beast wars because he would have shrink the transformers a $hit ton to make them the appropriate animal size. As far as off planet locations that is curious. Their only transport they had was the "Xanthion" and it was blown up by Starscream. He said the first three movies would be "past" so this should hold true. However all three of the wreckers survive so they might use NASA to retrieve parts from the Ark on the moon to build a new one for them to go "off planet" with unless a flying Autobot shows up and gets the parts for them. Hopefully the off planet bad guy isn't Unicron but right now I am leaning towards Galvatron. Who knows he might completely make up a new bad guy. Another off planet suggestion would be from the Drift comic series. There was a faction on a distant planet of transformers that didn't want to fight int he civil war so they left. Be cool if they would re-format Optimus and Bee like they did Drift. He could also use Vector Sigma possibly to bring Megatron back or use it to create the new bad guy and then use vector sigma to try and transform Earth into a new Cybertron. Would explain some off planet time but still have a lot of earth time.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:26 am

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Holy sh*t, bay actually spelled Spider-Man right, that's an ability many don't have.

But I'm not going to get my hopes up for this, especially not based on anything Bay says, I wonb't take anything at face value until I see the film myself. It's just going to end like with "Shockwave will be a badass and more brutal than Megatron" thing they had going on last time round.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Megatron Wolf » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:56 am

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keep it grounded? yeah like the first three were grounded. Im guessing hes going to do what the 86 movie did, skip to the future to introduce new characters & change things up but still be able to have current characters and plot points(did the previous 3 even have plot points?). But until stuff starts leaking and we see a trailer i wont believe a thing hes says, going to go into this one like i did with DOTM very low expectations. Remember everyone, no expectations no disappointment. Still say bay should not be involved in this one, hes done hes three now let someone else have a shot.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Galactic Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:33 pm

gavinfuzzy wrote:They better not redesign all the characters...


Oh for the love of all that's holy let's hope they do. Bay's BUGFORMERS have been the shittiest designs we've ever seen in Transformers with the exception of Animorph's and Beast Wars.

They need a reboot and they need to BOOT Bay to the curb. All the potential for kick assery he's had and he's just ruined every opportunity with the first three movies.

He doesn't deserve the chance again.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby ikillbronies » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:59 pm

Bay doesn't have the mental capacity to "re-boot" the mess he made of the Transformers. Hopefully we get another round of dog's humping mailboxes and John Turturro on the receiving end of a golden shower. That's what made the Bayformers so great...slapstick comedy and the human element.

Pray that the Amazing Spiderman does well and inspires someone to dethrone Bay and undo the botched abortion he's created.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby ILL-Star » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:00 pm

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Sounds promising. I still can't help but feel the new villain will be a more obscure Decepticon. Though they can introduce Galvatron as he hasn't always been a Megatron upgrade. Also Scourge as an oil tankor and Cyclonus as an attack copter. Or how about Jhiaxus. That would be cool. 2nd trilogy, 2nd generation.
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Postby RAcast » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:12 pm

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I'm certainly looking forward to it. I've enjoyed the other three, and I'm sure this one will be fun as well. :) Bay has been pulling obscure villains from the get go, so I could certainly see him doing so again.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Lord Onixprime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Galactic Prime wrote:Bay's BUGFORMERS have been the shittiest designs we've ever seen in Transformers with the exception of...Beast Wars.


Think you are in a sever minority with that statement, even amongst those who don't like Beast Wars.
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Postby BeastWarsFTW » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm

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Galactic Prime wrote:Bay's BUGFORMERS have been the shittiest designs we've ever seen in Transformers with the exception of...Beast Wars.


Think you are in a sever minority with that statement, even amongst those who don't like Beast Wars.


I was thinking the same thing but I refrained from posting nasty comments on that lol. BeastWars FTW as my name says!
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Stormrider » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:32 pm

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So far, I haven't enjoyed any of Transformers movies. I was leaving a sliver of hope for TF4 until I read:

says Bay. "I want to go a little off [the planet] but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded."


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