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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby xyl360 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:50 pm

Hmm...new planet, new cast, new takes on the appearance of the robots and the first three movies are in the 'history' of this new film?

I smell BEAST WARS!!! :twisted:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Seibertron » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:51 pm

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Considering that we're a year or more away from filming, I'd take all of this with a grain of salt. Moving the story into space, and possibly toward restoring Cybertron, would be awesome.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:05 pm

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The mention of a smaller budget worries me. It won't be a problem if he saves some cash by going easy on the overseas locations (Egypt, China, Jordan, etc.) and superfluous explosions, but if he skimps on the CGI, that means less screen time for the bots.

On the other hand, if they're going to tell the story in space, then they can't possibly skimp on the CGI.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby YRQRM0 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:15 pm

I would prefer a reboot. I don't even know if Cybertron is still there, I had thought the first movie said it was destroyed and uninhabitable. So many characters have disappeared/reappeared without explanation, so many good namesakes have been used, Megatron's been revived/fixed/reformatted too much, etc...

I understand a lot of these things can be somewhat explained/patched with comics/novels, but they shouldn't have to be. If Bay didn't make awesome action sequences, I would want an entirely new director. I hope this movie, if not a reboot, will have some allmighty reviving mechanism or something, where they can basically give characters like Devastator the screentime they deserve.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby T-Macksimus » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:24 pm

This kind of makes you wonder a bit whether or not someone may have been left behind to watch over the Nemesis and whether that someone is going to step up and fill the void now that every single main Decepticon is dead as a doornail.

This takes care of both the "off planet" aspect and the new enemy aspect.

Just please don't bring Uncron into the mix. This is going to be a suck-fest as it is without THAT lame storyline. It worked in 1986...ONCE! It should have stayed in 1986 where it was still cool. Now it's just freakin' old and so badly butchered that, for the life of me, I can't see why people get excited over it and want to see it bastardized yet again. :-x
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Capt.Failure » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:34 pm

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:The mention of a smaller budget worries me. It won't be a problem if he saves some cash by going easy on the overseas locations (Egypt, China, Jordan, etc.) and superfluous explosions, but if he skimps on the CGI, that means less screen time for the bots.

On the other hand, if they're going to tell the story in space, then they can't possibly skimp on the CGI.


Bays an expensive director because he prefers to use actual locations and physical effects unless he can absolutely avoid it. A film set in the future would negate many of the travel costs of filming on location.

T-Macksimus wrote:This is going to be a suck-fest as it is without THAT lame storyline.


That's an amazing review of a film that hasn't even left the planning stages yet. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Autobot Megatron » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:46 pm

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xyl360 wrote:Hmm...new planet, new cast, new takes on the appearance of the robots and the first three movies are in the 'history' of this new film?

I smell BEAST WARS!!! :twisted:


If it isn't, I will kill you for getting my hopes up.

Still not really excited, though. Way too early, and I'm busy being excited for FOC right now anyways.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby guarayakha » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:49 pm

Calling it now, Optimus driven to insanity by his guilt for causing the destruction of Cybertron ends up being Nemesis Prime, and it is now up to the rookie Autobot Hot Rodimus to bring him to justice!

Turns out Optimus is his father....

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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Capt.Failure » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:54 pm

guarayakha wrote:Calling it now, Optimus driven to insanity by his guilt for causing the destruction of Cybertron ends up being Nemesis Prime, and it is now up to the rookie Autobot Hot Rodimus to bring him to justice!

Turns out Optimus is his father....

:D


That's not true...that's IMPOSSIBLE!!! :sad:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby SilverbeamPrime » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:58 pm

He killed Ironhide!!! who does that?! Which bot am i gonna be hopin to live now? He better bring bad ass character!! And keep Rodimus out. primus plzz no Rodimus o.o

Does that mean hes replacing Peter Cullen?! :shock:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Burn » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:00 am

They're just going back to spend more time on the moon.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:41 am

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Capt.Failure wrote:Bays an expensive director because he prefers to use actual locations and physical effects unless he can absolutely avoid it. A film set in the future would negate many of the travel costs of filming on location.


Bay's not an expensive director, these are just expensive movies. He's the business man's director. Gets things done on time, when he says he will, and on budget. He delivers.

TF3's budget: $195 million
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers3.htm

TF2's budget: $200 million
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm

TF1's budget: $150 million
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby zodconvoy » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:56 am

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Guys, guys! Smaller budget because no globe trotting locations, smaller cast, the war on Earth already happened, in space/other planet, Megatron already dead? Still packed with all the nameless deaths and Baysplosions? Sound familiar to anyone?

We are talking possible "Last Stand of the Wreckers" movie here!

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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby LiKwid » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:35 am

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Yawn..Hopes will not be high for this release..You've fooled me 3 times Bay..
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:39 am

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I hope this time it will be focused less on human shenanigans and more on robot shenanigans.

For now, things are looking good.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:42 am

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T-Macksimus wrote: for the life of me, I can't see why people get excited over it and want to see it bastardized yet again. :-x


For the same reason so many people saw the trilogy: because it's Transformers on the big screen, and it's FUN.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Gundamu » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:04 am

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"I want to go a little off [the planet] but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded."
He does know he's making a movie about giant, sentient, transforming alien robots, right? *facepalm*
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby griftimus prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:21 am

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it will be lame just like the other 3. they just keep getting worse and worse. and a beast wars movie would be lame. i would not be apposed to a new toyline though
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:51 am

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griftimus prime wrote:it will be lame just like the other 3. they just keep getting worse and worse.


Yet you will see it, just like every other negative nancy in this thread. :)
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:53 am

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Let's hope not. The only character I'd like to see from that story is Overlord.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby AutoBorst » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:33 am

God, please make him stop. I was really happy when he said TF3 was his last movie, now here he is with a fourth film.

"It's not a reboot!" That's too bad because it's exactly what it should be, including booting his ass off this film.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Lord Onixprime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:41 am

xyl360 wrote:Hmm...new planet, new cast, new takes on the appearance of the robots and the first three movies are in the 'history' of this new film?

I smell BEAST WARS!!! :twisted:


Says nothing about a new planet, just possible off planet stuff as well (as if the other three didn't have scenes and the like off planet :roll: )

And please, don't wish that upon Beast Wars. I don't want to see just how Bay might ruin my childhood. Don't get me wrong, the movies aren't bad, but last think I want is Optimus Primal and Cheetor sitting around making crotch jokes about Dinobot.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:59 am

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Hopefully the higher ups at Paramount will put the breaks on this as well so that the script is good, just like they've done with G.I. Joe, TMNT and some other upcoming films.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby rpetras » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:01 am

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The movie-verse has clearly stated that there are other cybertronians that are not on earth.

They could focus on a different group of autobots and decepticons that either start out in space, or leave from earth to space.

So a young commander, Rodimus, has to pursue Galvatrron.

Of course it is the Bay-verse so Rodimus is a blue truck, and Galvatron's earth mode is a yellow taxi :roll:

Or maybe it'll be live action Rescue Bots ... who knows :michaelbay:
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