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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby BeastWarsFTW » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:08 am

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Here is my two cents. I believe earlier that Bay stated that the only returning characters would be Optimus and Bumblebee (I really hope Bee dies this time!). I don't think he would do beast wars because he would have shrink the transformers a $hit ton to make them the appropriate animal size. As far as off planet locations that is curious. Their only transport they had was the "Xanthion" and it was blown up by Starscream. He said the first three movies would be "past" so this should hold true. However all three of the wreckers survive so they might use NASA to retrieve parts from the Ark on the moon to build a new one for them to go "off planet" with unless a flying Autobot shows up and gets the parts for them. Hopefully the off planet bad guy isn't Unicron but right now I am leaning towards Galvatron. Who knows he might completely make up a new bad guy. Another off planet suggestion would be from the Drift comic series. There was a faction on a distant planet of transformers that didn't want to fight int he civil war so they left. Be cool if they would re-format Optimus and Bee like they did Drift. He could also use Vector Sigma possibly to bring Megatron back or use it to create the new bad guy and then use vector sigma to try and transform Earth into a new Cybertron. Would explain some off planet time but still have a lot of earth time.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:26 am

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Holy sh*t, bay actually spelled Spider-Man right, that's an ability many don't have.

But I'm not going to get my hopes up for this, especially not based on anything Bay says, I wonb't take anything at face value until I see the film myself. It's just going to end like with "Shockwave will be a badass and more brutal than Megatron" thing they had going on last time round.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Megatron Wolf » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:56 am

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keep it grounded? yeah like the first three were grounded. Im guessing hes going to do what the 86 movie did, skip to the future to introduce new characters & change things up but still be able to have current characters and plot points(did the previous 3 even have plot points?). But until stuff starts leaking and we see a trailer i wont believe a thing hes says, going to go into this one like i did with DOTM very low expectations. Remember everyone, no expectations no disappointment. Still say bay should not be involved in this one, hes done hes three now let someone else have a shot.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Galactic Prime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:33 pm

gavinfuzzy wrote:They better not redesign all the characters...


Oh for the love of all that's holy let's hope they do. Bay's BUGFORMERS have been the shittiest designs we've ever seen in Transformers with the exception of Animorph's and Beast Wars.

They need a reboot and they need to BOOT Bay to the curb. All the potential for kick assery he's had and he's just ruined every opportunity with the first three movies.

He doesn't deserve the chance again.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby ikillbronies » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:59 pm

Bay doesn't have the mental capacity to "re-boot" the mess he made of the Transformers. Hopefully we get another round of dog's humping mailboxes and John Turturro on the receiving end of a golden shower. That's what made the Bayformers so great...slapstick comedy and the human element.

Pray that the Amazing Spiderman does well and inspires someone to dethrone Bay and undo the botched abortion he's created.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby ILL-Star » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:00 pm

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Sounds promising. I still can't help but feel the new villain will be a more obscure Decepticon. Though they can introduce Galvatron as he hasn't always been a Megatron upgrade. Also Scourge as an oil tankor and Cyclonus as an attack copter. Or how about Jhiaxus. That would be cool. 2nd trilogy, 2nd generation.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby RAcast » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:12 pm

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I'm certainly looking forward to it. I've enjoyed the other three, and I'm sure this one will be fun as well. :) Bay has been pulling obscure villains from the get go, so I could certainly see him doing so again.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Lord Onixprime » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Galactic Prime wrote:Bay's BUGFORMERS have been the shittiest designs we've ever seen in Transformers with the exception of...Beast Wars.


Think you are in a sever minority with that statement, even amongst those who don't like Beast Wars.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby BeastWarsFTW » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm

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Lord Onixprime wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:Bay's BUGFORMERS have been the shittiest designs we've ever seen in Transformers with the exception of...Beast Wars.


Think you are in a sever minority with that statement, even amongst those who don't like Beast Wars.


I was thinking the same thing but I refrained from posting nasty comments on that lol. BeastWars FTW as my name says!
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Stormrider » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:32 pm

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So far, I haven't enjoyed any of Transformers movies. I was leaving a sliver of hope for TF4 until I read:

says Bay. "I want to go a little off [the planet] but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded."


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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:01 pm

You know by "more grounded" he meant "on a planet" right? As in "on the ground?" :roll:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Stormrider » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:19 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:You know by "more grounded" he meant "on a planet" right? As in "on the ground?" :roll:


says Bay. "I want to go a little off [the planet] but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded."



You do realize that based on his statement - he substituted "grounded" as the opposite of "sci-fi"? He is saying that Earth represents grounded (whatever that means in Bay's mind). Anything other than Earth (because he implied "the planet") is too sci-fi.

Basically - he doesn't want to show too much of Cybertron because that would incomprehensible. But Transforming rapping robots are completely plausible. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:32 pm

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All I can say right now is I hope Bay will continue to downplay the military's role in TF4 like he did in DOTM. Personally, I just don't like the idea of humans so easily defeating an army of Decepticons (bombing raids in TF1 and ROTF) when the Autobots seem to have such a hard time winning.

It's like having Robin single-handedly save the day when Batman gets his head bashed in by The Joker or something--the hero (Autobots in this case) should always win his own fights.

The guerrilla tactics in DOTM, though, I can live with. NEST took out the supporting-role Decepticons using covert tactics, while OP did the honors of taking out Megatron and Sentinel.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:19 pm

Stormrider wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:You know by "more grounded" he meant "on a planet" right? As in "on the ground?" :roll:


says Bay. "I want to go a little off [the planet] but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded."



You do realize that based on his statement - he substituted "grounded" as the opposite of "sci-fi"? He is saying that Earth represents grounded (whatever that means in Bay's mind). Anything other than Earth (because he implied "the planet") is too sci-fi.

Basically - he doesn't want to show too much of Cybertron because that would incomprehensible. But Transforming rapping robots are completely plausible. :HEADHURTS:


Missed that, so I stand corrected. However try to take it all in context of, say, G1's "let's go into space" years during and after the '86 movie. That was SO off the wall it makes Star Trek and Star Wars look like hard sci-fi. I'd honestly hope that 80's cartoon "science" was kept far away from the films.

After all, I know I'm not alone in remembering how the Thundercats could breathe in space. :roll:
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Bedo » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:22 pm

For all those hating on this bay bit. just remember that we all keep coming back. Every time we read an article that mentions another live action Transformers movie, we read it. I agree with all those that mention to take this with a grain of salt. Bay really likes to go off the beaten path when he is talking about upcoming films that he works on. What batter way to get the ball rolling on things than stir up a stink!!!!! Lets face it we all have ideas on how to make this better, but i however doubt that there are many of us out there that can translate our ideas into a 2hour plus movie. Otherwise your name would be on the the credits as produced and directed by .......... For the love of God keep Rodimus out of it. They tried that once and we know how that turned out!!!!!!
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:38 pm

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Bedo wrote:For all those hating on this bay bit. just remember that we all keep coming back. Every time we read an article that mentions another live action Transformers movie, we read it. I agree with all those that mention to take this with a grain of salt. Bay really likes to go off the beaten path when he is talking about upcoming films that he works on. What batter way to get the ball rolling on things than stir up a stink!!!!! Lets face it we all have ideas on how to make this better, but i however doubt that there are many of us out there that can translate our ideas into a 2hour plus movie. Otherwise your name would be on the the credits as produced and directed by .......... For the love of God keep Rodimus out of it. They tried that once and we know how that turned out!!!!!!


Glad someone here understands that saying is alot easier than doing. We all have our own ideas of what we would like to see in the live action movies, but getting tose ideas transfered on the big screen is an intirely different task that many just don't understand.

Bay's keeping the discussion going with all the talk. At this point there just throwing around ideas and nothings set in stone. In a couple monthis there will be another article with more ideas. Then another, then another..etc.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby ReDPATH » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:44 am

Bay should go for broke and go for a movie within a movie that way he can have himself as the only human cast member and be the hero alongside the autobots.

Certainly would make for a different movie.

The idea would be the 3 prior movies were the movies and the 4th movie would be in production with all the old Decepticons then a timewarp is brought about by the real life Unicron allowing the Decepticons to jump from the 4th film into reality along with the autobots.

So Bay and the Autobots have to defeat Unicron and the other Decepticons along with help from the Dinobots whom emerge from concept art.

The movie ends with the Cons destroyed, the Bots going back to movieverse or in this case for a real treat, they all morph back into their G1 counterparts and merge back into the cartoon and Bay walking off into the sunset.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Grimlock75 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:11 am

xyl360 wrote:Hmm...new planet, new cast, new takes on the appearance of the robots and the first three movies are in the 'history' of this new film?

I smell BEAST WARS!!! :twisted:



Headmasters would be better ;) ...they have to goto some distant planet for what ever reason which has humanoid life forms,something needs dealing with that the Autobots cant do on there own, they work with the humanoids to make Headmasters 8)
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Delta Magnus » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:59 pm

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I just wonder who the villain is going to be, with all the decepticons being dead and all.

My hopes would be either:

Galvatron (possibly including the lines "Oh no, not ANOTHER movie...".

Straxus or Jhiaxus, or some other high ranking Decepticon.

Or maybe even Unicron and the Quintessons.
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Re: NEW! Bay: TF4 to have smaller budget, story to go into space.

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:55 am

Delta Magnus wrote:I just wonder who the villain is going to be, with all the decepticons being dead and all.

My hopes would be either:

Galvatron (possibly including the lines "Oh no, not ANOTHER movie...".

Straxus or Jhiaxus, or some other high ranking Decepticon.

Or maybe even Unicron and the Quintessons.


I've always been partial to the Quintessons, or at least a redo of them that can take advantage of the idea behind them. An evil that predates the creation of the Cybertronians. Something worse than a petty war over ideals and resources.
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