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chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Grimshock wrote:Again, nothing but utter garbage. I hope that all you guys who are just as disappointed as I am do nothing to support this movie. Don't watch it, don't buy the toys, etc, etc. Otherwise, it will never get better for us again and TF's may as well just die.

Actually, much more the opposite, sadly. If we don't support the movie, TF's could be deemed unprofitable on the whole, & the entire toyline would slip away into obscurity.

It's a double-edged sword, really. If we do support it, Hasbro makes money, they put more focus on TFs & we get a shitload of toys, albeit most of them will be based off of these horrific designs. If we don't support it.....well, I already mentioned what would happen then.

Something odd about business execs: when people stop buying into a product, instead of even attempting to try to figure out what went wrong & make it better, they just assume nobody likes it anymore & move on to the next potential goldmine, throwing the older product to the wayside. It happens when a toyline dosen't sell, when a TV show doesn't get the intended ratings....hell, it happens when people start favoring one flavor of ice cream instead of another.

So basically, we have a choice to support garbage in hopes that the garbage will later get filtered out to some degree....or we can choose not to support it, & the good stuff gets thrown out with said garbage.

Or on the other hand if we don't support the movie and Hasbro moves on them the demand for Transformers will go down and thus so will the prices, something I am hoping for since I plan on building up my G1 collection during the movie run, thus causing vintage TF's to become a commodity on E-bay and other internet stores. Hasbro seeing the upswing in TF sales will be roused into taking another look at the Transformers brand and more importantly what is moving on the net. This is a long term view and might take quite a few years but in the end the results will be worth it.

Sounds like a pretty optimistic POV.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Grimshock wrote:Again, nothing but utter garbage. I hope that all you guys who are just as disappointed as I am do nothing to support this movie. Don't watch it, don't buy the toys, etc, etc. Otherwise, it will never get better for us again and TF's may as well just die.

Actually, much more the opposite, sadly. If we don't support the movie, TF's could be deemed unprofitable on the whole, & the entire toyline would slip away into obscurity.

It's a double-edged sword, really. If we do support it, Hasbro makes money, they put more focus on TFs & we get a shitload of toys, albeit most of them will be based off of these horrific designs. If we don't support it.....well, I already mentioned what would happen then.

Something odd about business execs: when people stop buying into a product, instead of even attempting to try to figure out what went wrong & make it better, they just assume nobody likes it anymore & move on to the next potential goldmine, throwing the older product to the wayside. It happens when a toyline dosen't sell, when a TV show doesn't get the intended ratings....hell, it happens when people start favoring one flavor of ice cream instead of another.

So basically, we have a choice to support garbage in hopes that the garbage will later get filtered out to some degree....or we can choose not to support it, & the good stuff gets thrown out with said garbage.

Or on the other hand if we don't support the movie and Hasbro moves on them the demand for Transformers will go down and thus so will the prices, something I am hoping for since I plan on building up my G1 collection during the movie run, thus causing vintage TF's to become a commodity on E-bay and other internet stores. Hasbro seeing the upswing in TF sales will be roused into taking another look at the Transformers brand and more importantly what is moving on the net. This is a long term view and might take quite a few years but in the end the results will be worth it.

Sounds like a pretty optimistic POV.

I'm just trying to hold back the numbing fear that if this movie bombs, which I do believe it will, this will be the end of the Transformers for quite some time. Longer than the 3 or 4 year span of the early 90's

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm just trying to hold back the numbing fear that if this movie bombs, which I do believe it will, this will be the end of the Transformers for quite some time. Longer than the 3 or 4 year span of the early 90's

G1 continued in Europe all the way into G2. If we'd had eBay and it were as easy to find importers of individual items as it is currently that hiatus probably wouldn't have even been memorable today. Point is, Transformers, like G.I. Joe, have been Hasbro's in-house cash-cows for decades. There has always been product on the shelves somewhere in some form or another and during the brief periods when there isn't it's because they're planning the next re-launch. Even if the film does fail Classics did/is selling pretty well and they're smart enough not to throw that potential away. The worst that could happen is a Sigma-Six approach that'll sell well but disenfranchise the older collectors.

Chuckdawg's got it right.
If the "execs" were so confident that this movie would do well, there wouldn't have been the massive influx of (good-selling) classics stuff.

It's preposterous to me, the idea that the people at Hasbro are somehow unable to differentiate Transformers old with Transformers new.. that they'd ditch the whole franchise because a super-shit movie bombed.

They (they, as in Hasbro, not the movie creators) are not deaf to the public outcry so far. Nor are they blind to what has sold and what will not.

In order to not "accidentally" support this movie, thereby sending the wrong message that such things are acceptable, I WILL download it first to gauge if it should be supported.

There will be no "I paid for a ticket because I just wanted to see how it was" revenue coming from MY pocket.

And there is ZERO fear that this means the end of Transformers.

Never.
Happen.

Hey Hasbro, if it bombs and that leads to the line going on hiatus for awhile, well, that's the price you pay for making the wrong decisions when you KNOW it's wrong.
We'll sit here patiently, awaiting it's return. We've had to do it once before, when other bad decisions were made.
We're used to it.

stormrider wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

That is awesome.

Thanks.. I have tons of funny pix I can use.. That one fit with this particular thread topic.

Looks like Johny 5 for some reason.

Frenzy: INPUT! INPUT INPUT! INPUT!

He makes baby Primus cry!!!

Ugly, but looks like he's kickass dangerous.

Nope, not Frenzy, but it makes me laugh. Maybe when we see the movie, it will be a great scary little sharp thing or pee from laughing, who knows.