Submit News Contact Us Translate Sign in Join

New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Feel free to discuss anything about any of the thousands of Transformer toys here. Anything from Generation 1 all the way to the soon to be released, the never to be released or the hope to be released is fair game! Want to show off your stuff? Please post your's and see others in the Transformers Collections Forum.

Moderators: Cryhavok, Supreme Convoy, robofreak

New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:37 pm

Motto: "For I have dipped my hands in muddied waters, and, withdrawing them, find 'tis better to be a commander than a common man!"
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
We're proud to present new Seibertron.com galleries of Takara Tomy's Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker. Starscream is a slight redeco of Hasbro's Transformers Prime Robots In Disguise Voyager Class Starscream and he comes with his Micron Gul. Thundercracker, following Transformers tradition, is a redeco and retool of First Edition Starscream and includes his Micron Silver Metal Balo. Check out these new galleries by clicking on any of the pictures below.

Arms Micron Thundercracker

Image

Image

Image

Image


Arms Micron Silver Metal Balo

Image


Arms Micron Starscream

Image

Image

Image


Arms Micron Gul

Image
Image
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.

Make your guesses on BotCon 2014's exclusive figures here! You'll only regret it slightly.
User avatar
Mindmaster
News Staff
Posts: 4833
News Credits: 16
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:00 pm
Location: Wilmington, NC
Watch Mindmaster on YouTube
Strength: 8
Intelligence: Infinity
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: 10
Courage: 8
Firepower: 6
Skill: 9

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Noideaforaname » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:04 pm

I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.
Krazy 'bout Kreons
Customs // Photos // Art // Parts Database
User avatar
Noideaforaname
Gestalt
Posts: 2045
News Credits: 5
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:31 pm

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby RAcast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:15 pm

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
Weapon: Rocket Launcher
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.

For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.
User avatar
RAcast
Gestalt
Posts: 2777
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: USA
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 6
Endurance: 6
Rank: 7
Courage: 10
Firepower: 10
Skill: 7

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:31 pm

Motto: "Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly; the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest ... is silence."
Weapon: Twin Shock-Concussion Missiles
RAcast wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.

For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.


I've seen Noideaforaname's comments stated elsewhere by other members. I'm assuming it's because Skywarp and Thundercracker have no fictional portrayal in the Transformers Prime cartoons or comics so they seem very much like repaints of Starscream. Had Skywarp and Thundercracker been portrayed in the cartoon from the beginning, people would be more accepting of them. I'm really surprised they were neglected in Prime and in the live action movies. It seems like including those two characters would make a lot of fans happy and provide a way for them to save some costs with CGI. I'm glad they didn't cheap out by replacing Dreadwing and/or Skyquake with Skywarp and Thundercracker, but I've always thought those two would've been great secondary characters to have in the live action films such as Jolt, Sideswipe (who didn't really shine until DOTM), etc.
Image

Current Want List: Beast Wars Returns Strika, Sixknight (stickers or replacement), Browning, Dai Atlas, Guard City, Battle Gaia, Marlboro Wheeljack, and more!
User avatar
Seibertron
Site Owner
Posts: 22892
News Credits: 681
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2001 5:17 pm
Location: Chicago
Watch Seibertron on YouTube
Buy from Seibertron on eBay
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 7
Endurance: 9
Rank: 10+
Courage: 8
Firepower: 5
Skill: 10+

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby RAcast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:39 pm

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
Weapon: Rocket Launcher
Seibertron wrote:
RAcast wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.

For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.


I've seen Noideaforaname's comments stated elsewhere by other members. I'm assuming it's because Skywarp and Thundercracker have no fictional portrayal in the Transformers Prime cartoons or comics so they seem very much like repaints of Starscream. Had Skywarp and Thundercracker been portrayed in the cartoon from the beginning, people would be more accepting of them. I'm really surprised they were neglected in Prime and in the live action movies. It seems like including those two characters would make a lot of fans happy and provide a way for them to save some costs with CGI. I'm glad they didn't cheap out by replacing Dreadwing and/or Skyquake with Skywarp and Thundercracker, but I've always thought those two would've been great secondary characters to have in the live action films such as Jolt, Sideswipe (who didn't really shine until DOTM), etc.

That's pretty much what I was expecting, and I agree to a point, but the design behind Prime Starscream just feels right to me, if that makes sense. It's a shame they didn't have Skywarp and Thundercracker show up in any real way, but oh well, missed opportunities and such.
User avatar
RAcast
Gestalt
Posts: 2777
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:26 pm
Location: USA
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 6
Endurance: 6
Rank: 7
Courage: 10
Firepower: 10
Skill: 7

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:42 pm

Motto: "For I have dipped my hands in muddied waters, and, withdrawing them, find 'tis better to be a commander than a common man!"
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
I agree: would've been a pretty neat shout-out to fans if they had included Skywarp and Thundercracker in Prime.

Call me insane, but I kinda want to see them tackle Acid Storm from this mold. I happen to like camo patterns very much. :lol:
Image
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.

Make your guesses on BotCon 2014's exclusive figures here! You'll only regret it slightly.
User avatar
Mindmaster
News Staff
Posts: 4833
News Credits: 16
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:00 pm
Location: Wilmington, NC
Watch Mindmaster on YouTube
Strength: 8
Intelligence: Infinity
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: 10
Courage: 8
Firepower: 6
Skill: 9

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby xyl360 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:50 pm

I have all the repaints, but for the most part, I agree with Noideaforaname. The reason I do has more to do with the characteristics of the bot mode. Normal seeker toys (G1, Classics/Generations, MP etc.) use a very generic robot form. TF:Prime uses an extremely characterized form, including various elements of posture, facial design, facial expression etc. that can only really be 1 character: TF: Prime Starscream (or Starscream in general, really). The humanization of the characters in Prime makes repaints into other characters (without SERIOUS repainting and remolding at least) virtually impossible in my opinion, especially for Starscream, who even transforms in such a way that everything from his hands and elbows and the posture of his shoulders and torso all give him a sort of "body language" that is unmistakably him, and ONLY him.

I just can't really see that mold as anyone else unless TC and SW had been recolored clones or something (as in the episode where he created clones of himself using protoforms). But as just generic seeker Decepticons who happen to share the same form as him (a-la G1), it just doesn't work. At least not for me.
Image
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I am that which is, which was, and is yet to come.

And you will know my name is MEGATRON when I lay my vengeance upon you!
User avatar
xyl360
Gestalt
Posts: 2716
News Credits: 2
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:54 am

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Agamemnon » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:56 pm

Motto: ""I'd be the President of the procrastinator's club if I ever got around to submitting my application.""
Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Or, y'know, it would be nice to have a face that isn't just another Starscream smirk...

Personally, I'd just like to see domestic releases of all three characters rather than having to spring for expensive imports. I'd even be happy with straight-up repaints at that point. (Prime makeovers of the coneheads might've been cool too from both the show and toys. Instead we get drones that are winged cars, and a silver general winged car drone...)
Agamemnon
Godmaster
Posts: 1887
Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:41 am
Location: West Side, Twin Cities
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 2
Endurance: 6
Rank: 2
Courage: 9
Firepower: 5
Skill: 8

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Noideaforaname » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:02 pm

The original Starscream design is a rather generic jet-robot, so you could apply "treacherous schemer", "idiot prankster", "doubtful of the Decepticon cause", or any other personality and none would look out of place.
Prime Starscream, however, was definitely designed to be a scheming, aloof, not-really-a-direct-fighter; in other words, Starscream specifically. I have a hard time seeing Skywarp or Thundercracker, instead I'm just seeing "the schemer" in different colors.

'Course, if the Seeker Trio were introduced all at once this way in the cartoon I suppose I'd have a different opinion, but that didn't happen and Starscream went on to become on of the best Starscreams ever (the "definitive" one, I'd say, at least in Season 1) so simply recoloring his toy (or creating a new head that doesn't really look all that different save for the lack of crest and added lipstick) doesn't work for me.
Krazy 'bout Kreons
Customs // Photos // Art // Parts Database
User avatar
Noideaforaname
Gestalt
Posts: 2045
News Credits: 5
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:31 pm

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby megatronus » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:43 am

Motto: "I have better things to do tonight than die!"
Weapon: Temperature Variant H20 Gun
Agamemnon wrote:Or, y'know, it would be nice to have a face that isn't just another Starscream smirk...

Personally, I'd just like to see domestic releases of all three characters rather than having to spring for expensive imports. I'd even be happy with straight-up repaints at that point. (Prime makeovers of the coneheads might've been cool too from both the show and toys. Instead we get drones that are winged cars, and a silver general winged car drone...)

The Dark Energon Starscream is an easy replacement option for imported Skywarp. He looks great, and the clear parts arguably make him even more Skywarp-y (a la Machine Wars).
Image
User avatar
megatronus
Godmaster
Posts: 1723
News Credits: 1
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:57 am
Location: NYC
Buy from megatronus on eBay

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:23 am

I agree with xyl360 that it's hard to see these repaints as anything other than his clones, and they lacked the divergent personality traits and color schemes of Animated Starscream's clones. So even if it's easy to fanwank them in as such, I still find it pretty hard to see these repaints as other Seekers rather than other Starscreams.

Or maybe it's still just too hard to accept those stiletto-heels as standard issue for a body template.

Except for Slipstream, of course. She's the only redeco I've got so far, and while the others would be nice, I'm in no rush.
Bumblevivisector
Headmaster
Posts: 1135
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:29 am

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Joetx » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:35 pm

In the second pic, who is the one on the far right?

And, in the same pic, I guess the one on the top left is the Japanese version of Starscream?
Joetx
Fuzor
Posts: 260
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:50 pm

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:39 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Joetx wrote:In the second pic, who is the one on the far right?

And, in the same pic, I guess the one on the top left is the Japanese version of Starscream?


The one on the far right is Entertainment Pack Starscream. He was seemingly released only in Europe.
Top 5 Priorities:

1) BW Neo X-7 Elphaorpha
2) BW II VS-18 Powerhug vs. Autocrusher
3) Universe 2003 Night Slash Cheetor
4) Arms Micron Terrorcon Bumblebee
5) BW Convobat (red) & Megalligator (purple)

Preparing to move to the US!

- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
User avatar
JelZe GoldRabbit
God Of Transformers
Posts: 13724
News Credits: 20
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:45 am
Location: Delft, the Netherlands; McKinney, Texas, USA
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: 1
Courage: 6
Skill: 5

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby MINDVVIPE » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:48 pm

Motto: "One look from me and you've lost"
Weapon: Black Magic
The mould doesn't work for Thundercracker or Skywarp, but only for Starscream. I would say it's because the robot mode emobodies too much of the snivelling, sneaky, backstabbing, and non-upright standards of conduct that Starscream possesses and lives by. Thundercracker has too much of a backbone, and Skywarp is too brave, or atleast confident to look so egor-like.
Image
THE POWERS OF DARKNESS ARE A MORE POWERFUL WEAPON THAN ALL THE TOYS YOUR SCIENCE CAN MUSTER

Die, Autobots!
User avatar
MINDVVIPE
Gestalt
Posts: 2242
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:49 pm
Strength: ???
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: Infinity
Endurance: ???
Rank: ???
Courage: ???
Firepower: ???
Skill: ???

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby megatronus » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Motto: "I have better things to do tonight than die!"
Weapon: Temperature Variant H20 Gun
I largely agree with what has been said:

(1) Only Starscream is represented in the show
(2) Starscream's character model is an embodiment of his personality

Thus, the mold will forever scream (pun intended) Starscream, regardless of what character he is nominally repainted to be.
Image
User avatar
megatronus
Godmaster
Posts: 1723
News Credits: 1
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:57 am
Location: NYC
Buy from megatronus on eBay

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:27 pm

Motto: "For I have dipped my hands in muddied waters, and, withdrawing them, find 'tis better to be a commander than a common man!"
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
Seibertron.com is pleased to present to the public a trio of new toy galleries! Today, we show off the Japanese versions of Transformers Prime: First Edition Megatron, Arcee, and the Hasbro release of Cliffjumper. Unlike the Japanese version of the Prime line, the First Edition toys do not feature Microns. There are also very minor deco differences between these releases and those released elsewhere.

First Edition Megatron

Image

Image

Image


Transformers Prime: First Edition Cliffjumper

Image

Image

Image

Image


First Edition Arcee

Image

Image

Image
Image
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.

Make your guesses on BotCon 2014's exclusive figures here! You'll only regret it slightly.
User avatar
Mindmaster
News Staff
Posts: 4833
News Credits: 16
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:00 pm
Location: Wilmington, NC
Watch Mindmaster on YouTube
Strength: 8
Intelligence: Infinity
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: 10
Courage: 8
Firepower: 6
Skill: 9

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:41 am

Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
FE Arcee might not be very screen accurate, but she's definitely got better looking back kibble than the PRID version, particularly when you rotate the wheel 90 degrees and fit part of it into the slot in her back.
SKYWARPED_128
Gestalt
Posts: 2110
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:20 pm
Strength: Infinity
Intelligence: 9
Speed: Infinity
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 9
Courage: 10
Firepower: Infinity
Skill: 10+

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Noideaforaname » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:36 am

Is it me, or do the toys never quite capture Megatron's head right? Like, the shape is all off, or maybe it's painted the wrong colors. Silver definitely does NOT capture that distinct rottenness of Meg's face.
Krazy 'bout Kreons
Customs // Photos // Art // Parts Database
User avatar
Noideaforaname
Gestalt
Posts: 2045
News Credits: 5
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:31 pm

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby hinomars19 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:03 pm

Motto: "never forget what you don't know"
Weapon: Blunt Force Battle Clubs
Noideaforaname wrote:Is it me, or do the toys never quite capture Megatron's head right? Like, the shape is all off, or maybe it's painted the wrong colors. Silver definitely does NOT capture that distinct rottenness of Meg's face.


Lack of a darker colour on the face is doing that, me thinks.
User avatar
hinomars19
Combiner
Posts: 401
Joined: Sat May 29, 2004 4:03 am
Location: England
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 7
Speed: 5
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 1
Courage: Infinity
Firepower: 8
Skill: 10+

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Noideaforaname » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:55 pm

Looking at some screencaps, I think it's the face being much lighter, the eyes being "dead", the teeth being the same color as the rest of his face, how the mouth is actually open like he's saying something and not just clenching his teeth, the back of his mouth also being silver, and the weird impression of a nose-ring at a distance that's throwing me off. The Cyberverse doesn't look anywhere near as weird as the larger toys, and it doesn't have any of those things above.
Krazy 'bout Kreons
Customs // Photos // Art // Parts Database
User avatar
Noideaforaname
Gestalt
Posts: 2045
News Credits: 5
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:31 pm

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby megatronus » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:22 pm

Motto: "I have better things to do tonight than die!"
Weapon: Temperature Variant H20 Gun
Despite the flaws, I still think the FE Deluxe is light years ahead of PRID Voyager Megatron.

Honestly, they should have just upsized this mold, with his proper arm cannon, and I would have been ecstatic.

Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm - allegedly the best deco of the Voyager Megatron mold - is somewhat of a let down.

Sigh.
Image
User avatar
megatronus
Godmaster
Posts: 1723
News Credits: 1
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:57 am
Location: NYC
Buy from megatronus on eBay

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:26 pm

Motto: "FOR THE EARTH!!!"
Weapon: Saber Blade
megatronus wrote:Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm
We still don't know who's arm that was. :-B
If you've read Exodus, wanna read the War For Cybertron comic? PM me.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
User avatar
Sabrblade
God Of Transformers
Posts: 14771
News Credits: 90
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:22 pm
Location: Florida, the "Neglected" State
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 6
Rank: 9
Courage: 8
Firepower: 10
Skill: 9

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby megatronus » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:33 pm

Motto: "I have better things to do tonight than die!"
Weapon: Temperature Variant H20 Gun
Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm
We still don't know who's arm that was. :-B

That's not going to stop me from assuming ;)
Image
User avatar
megatronus
Godmaster
Posts: 1723
News Credits: 1
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:57 am
Location: NYC
Buy from megatronus on eBay

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Nest Max » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:04 am

I think this is the best representation of Megatron Prime :)
Nest Max
Mini-Con
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:59 am

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Prime, Arms Micron, Beast Hunters, and Go!

Postby Hypershock » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:59 am

Motto: "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe. Oh, and I may or may not have been to Coruscant once or twice. Recently. Possibly."
Weapon: Dual Solar Powererd Vibro Cannons
Where is that megatron packaging from? Japan? cuz i thought the FE deluxe megatron only came in that entertainment pack
Image
User avatar
Hypershock
Combiner
Posts: 451
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:11 pm
Watch Hypershock on YouTube
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 7
Speed: 8
Endurance: 8
Rank: 7
Courage: 6
Firepower: 6
Skill: 8

PreviousNext

Return to Transformers Toys Discussion

Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #90 - Dark Scorponok
Twincast / Podcast #90:
"Dark Scorponok"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Monday, April 7th, 2014