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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby GuyIncognito » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:48 pm

Autobot032 wrote:Windblade is the only figure I'll buy out of this wave. I swear, Hasbro has it in for Jhiaxus. I just don't understand why he can't have his own mold, and be G2 accurate for once.

It's stupid and this is why 3rd parties exist.


Don't you wish we could back in time to G1, when every character got it's own unique mold and nothing was ever repainted? Boy, those were the days! Luckily we have 3rd parties, who NEVER repaint their figures to represent different characters.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:52 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:Windblade is the only figure I'll buy out of this wave. I swear, Hasbro has it in for Jhiaxus. I just don't understand why he can't have his own mold, and be G2 accurate for once.

It's stupid and this is why 3rd parties exist.


Don't you wish we could back in time to G1, when every character got it's own unique mold and nothing was ever repainted? Boy, those were the days! Luckily we have 3rd parties, who NEVER repaint their figures to represent different characters.


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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby njb902 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:54 pm

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njb902 wrote:It's too bad nightbeat's gun will look odd in combined mode.
Unless the spotlights combine with the gun to form a twin-cannon blaster or something. ;)


I myself don't see any way that those 3 pieces combine that doesn't look goofy.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Caelus » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:04 pm

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njb902 wrote:It's too bad nightbeat's gun will look odd in combined mode.
Unless the spotlights combine with the gun to form a twin-cannon blaster or something. ;)


Or maybe they're just tactical dazzlers.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby craggy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:05 pm

Caelus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:It's too bad nightbeat's gun will look odd in combined mode.
Unless the spotlights combine with the gun to form a twin-cannon blaster or something. ;)


Or maybe they're just tactical dazzlers.

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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Manterax Prime » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:28 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:Windblade is the only figure I'll buy out of this wave. I swear, Hasbro has it in for Jhiaxus. I just don't understand why he can't have his own mold, and be G2 accurate for once.

It's stupid and this is why 3rd parties exist.


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How about another 2: Continuously Variable and Divergence

3rd parties do the same damn thing.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Amelie » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:35 pm

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Jhiaxus is just... no. I was really hopeful for this figure so it could [kinda] sit in with my G1s like Straxus\Darkmount has.

I'm hoping Chromia and Arcee will fit in, though
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby GuyIncognito » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:38 pm

Every 3rd party repaints their molds for the same reason Hasbro and TT do: it makes good economic sense.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Amelie » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:56 pm

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I agree that Hasbro should get two or three uses from a old. No questions asked there.

I think they could've left Goldfire alone and gone with Nightbeat for the remold. RTS Jazz has already been used for two repaints already (G2 Jazz and Wheelie). Goldfire feels like a waste - the colour scheme hardly feels like its a repaint at all.. more like a Takara\Hasbro comparison shot.

Starscream.. that could've been someone else, too. Its a nice mold and would be cool to see who they reimagined it as... but Jhiaxus is really not the guy I'd like to see as it.

It'd make me laugh if Windblade was changed into a male character like Thrust. :P
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby KnightStrike » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:16 pm

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I am actually looking forward to all of these, but especially that Nightbeat. i admit, I can't get enough of the RTS Jazz mold. I have several versions of it already as well as a couple planned customs from it and really like the colors on this Nightbeat retool.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Coptur » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:22 pm

Hopefully wingblade will pave the way for an official slipstream. I hope the mould doesn't tower over the g1/classic seeker mould
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Amelie » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:27 pm

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Thats unlikely, given that modern figures seem to be getting smaller
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby jamarmiller » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:53 pm

Yeah, Jhiaxus is a skip, in those colors, had they been g2 colors I would have bought it in a second

Sucks they insist on doing him in orange
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:12 pm

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Still not feeling Nightbeat. Give him his headmaster and then we can talk..
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Banjo-Tron » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:53 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Still not feeling Nightbeat. Give him his headmaster and then we can talk..

In FansProject we trust. Until that day, the goofy TFCC one will have to do.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:57 pm

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I love Nightbeat's head, but I hate his body. It just doesn't match his proportions. He would have been better served by having a - dare I say it? - "Flat-chested" robot mode.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Bumblevivisector » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:01 pm

njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:It's too bad nightbeat's gun will look odd in combined mode.
Unless the spotlights combine with the gun to form a twin-cannon blaster or something. ;)


I myself don't see any way that those 3 pieces combine that doesn't look goofy.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:42 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Windblade is the only figure I'll buy out of this wave. I swear, Hasbro has it in for Jhiaxus. I just don't understand why he can't have his own mold, and be G2 accurate for once.

It's stupid and this is why 3rd parties exist.


Don't you wish we could back in time to G1, when every character got it's own unique mold and nothing was ever repainted? Boy, those were the days! Luckily we have 3rd parties, who NEVER repaint their figures to represent different characters.


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Autobot032 wrote:Windblade is the only figure I'll buy out of this wave. I swear, Hasbro has it in for Jhiaxus. I just don't understand why he can't have his own mold, and be G2 accurate for once.

It's stupid and this is why 3rd parties exist.


2 3rd party items: Mebsuda and Mekbuda
You know what, 2 more: Mugen Scope and Mugen Vox
How about another 2: Continuously Variable and Divergence

3rd parties do the same damn thing.


Congratulations to the two of you. Now everyone knows you aren't capable of reading a post correctly and then prone to having kneejerk reactions from it. Good job!

Both of your posts are absolutely incorrect in assuming what I said. I never said 3rd parties don't redeco or remold. We've had at least TWO Hasbro Jhiaxus toys that were redecos/remolds of existing figures when fans have wanted a G2 accurate figure since the comic. We've never received it.

While 3rd parties haven't created one (yet) this is the kind of thing they usually go for. Filling a spot that Hasbro hasn't or hasn't done so to tge fandom's liking.

In no way did my post say 3rd parties don't redeco or remold. Good job! Let me find you some more conclusions to jump to. Hopefully none are over a cliff. *crosses fingers*
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby bvzxa » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:03 pm

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This isn't news...judging by the pictures these are just upscaled. You can tell they blew them up as the detail is horrid. No offence but it's the same pictures form a few weeks ago.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:13 pm

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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby It Is Him » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:56 pm

Amelie wrote:Thats unlikely, given that modern figures seem to be getting smaller


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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby ILL-Star » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:50 pm

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I was hoping these were fake.

I really don't mind Nightbeat using the Jazz mold, I'm just kind of sick of that figure.
When it comes to Jhiaxus, I actually prefer the orange deco over his G2. What bothers me immensely though is the size. I'll only get him if he shows up in Dark Cybertron looking like that. And he probably will.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby YoungPrime » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:11 pm

Wow everyone is hating on Jhiaxus....

Oh well, easier access for me then. Guess it helps that I'm not familiar with the G2 version, only the IDW Dead Universe.

Plus I'm skipping that Armada Starscream mold so Jhiaxus will be a fresh mold to me standing right next to Nemesis Prime, Galvatron, Bludgeon, Cylonus and several Sweeps.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:20 pm

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Jhiaxus is actually sculpted a lot more faithfully to his IDW design than we originally believed. The Armada Starscream mold as it is even has some small molding details that are based more on Jhiaxus than Starscream.

If it helps, the wings can be hidden and the mold can be hunched over to more closely resemble Jhiaxus.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Henry921 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:57 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Jhiaxus is actually sculpted a lot more faithfully to his IDW design than we originally believed. The Armada Starscream mold as it is even has some small molding details that are based more on Jhiaxus than Starscream.

If it helps, the wings can be hidden and the mold can be hunched over to more closely resemble Jhiaxus.



Jhiaxus is my favorite of the three revealed because his adaptation is significantly more faithful than Nightbeat, and Windblade is still a bit of an unknown.

And it certainly beats a straight redeco of a Beast Machines figure... ;)
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