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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:36 am

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In FansProject we trust. Until that day, the goofy TFCC one will have to do.


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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby shockblast2 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:00 am

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Same lame pics that we seen last time.

Still not convinced until I see official pics. And even if so, saves me money on this wave as I will only pick up Jhiaxus. Not that this mold looks like him or anything.....

I would say if these are true and Hasbro is reaching to the RTS line for molds, Generations is going on hiatus again real soon......
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Manterax Prime » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:45 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:Congratulations to the two of you. Now everyone knows you aren't capable of reading a post correctly and then prone to having kneejerk reactions from it. Good job!

Both of your posts are absolutely incorrect in assuming what I said. I never said 3rd parties don't redeco or remold. We've had at least TWO Hasbro Jhiaxus toys that were redecos/remolds of existing figures when fans have wanted a G2 accurate figure since the comic. We've never received it.

While 3rd parties haven't created one (yet) this is the kind of thing they usually go for. Filling a spot that Hasbro hasn't or hasn't done so to tge fandom's liking.

In no way did my post say 3rd parties don't redeco or remold. Good job! Let me find you some more conclusions to jump to. Hopefully none are over a cliff. *crosses fingers*


:lol: Yeah. Whatever.

We read your post. It was clear what you were implying.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:41 pm

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I'll wait and see what Takara has up their sleeves, should they decide to pounce on Jhiaxus. Based on their previous track records, I sense a Generation 2-accurate redeco.

Nightbeat... yeah, they should've held off on that Goldfire and just make Nightbeat from it. That would've been the smart thing to do.

No comment on Windblade, since... y'know, you can't make anything out of a drawing.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby craggy » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:39 pm

Mindmaster wrote:No comment on Windblade, since... y'know, you can't make anything out of a drawing.

isn't that how most products begin?
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:40 pm

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craggy wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:No comment on Windblade, since... y'know, you can't make anything out of a drawing.

isn't that how most products begin?


#-o Not what I meant.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Caelus » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:50 pm

You know, it would look terrible...
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... but I still want it.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:51 pm

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Caelus wrote:You know, it would look terrible...
G2 Jhiaxus.jpg


... but I still want it.


Pfft, terrible? I'd buy it in a split second.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:55 pm

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Someone do the IDW color scheme since this mold contains sculpted detail based mostly on that version.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:56 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Someone do the IDW color scheme since this mold contains sculpted detail based mostly on that version.


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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Caelus » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:58 pm

IDW and G2 look the same to me...

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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:04 pm

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Caelus wrote:IDW and G2 look the same to me...

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He's more golden bronze than banana yellow, with more of a muted neutral gray and only red on his head.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby craggy » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:09 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
craggy wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:No comment on Windblade, since... y'know, you can't make anything out of a drawing.

isn't that how most products begin?


#-o Not what I meant.

:-? care to elaborate, because I really didn't get the intent behind the original comment?
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Arctorro » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:15 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:No comment on Windblade, since... y'know, you can't make anything out of a drawing.

isn't that how most products begin?


#-o Not what I meant.

:-? care to elaborate, because I really didn't get the intent behind the original comment?
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:39 am

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Caelus wrote:You know, it would look terrible...
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... but I still want it.


That would certainly be an easier pill to swallow.

I still want a true G2 mold of him, though.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Stormrider » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:42 pm

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Caelus wrote:IDW and G2 look the same to me...

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They need to make a new mold for Jhiaxus based on the IDW design
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:44 pm

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Stormrider wrote:They need to make a new mold for Jhiaxus based on the IDW design
Mold-wise, the new Jhiaxus toy is based on his IDW design. The Armada Starscream on its own even has some Jhiaxus-based molding details that it shouldn't have as Starscream, such as Jhiaxus's three-holed crotch. :-B
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:16 am

I wish Windblade's lower legs were black instead of red so they'd blend in better in alt mode. But it's still a cool figure I plan on buying.

Sabrblade wrote:The Armada Starscream on its own even has some Jhiaxus-based molding details that it shouldn't have as Starscream, such as Jhiaxus's three-holed crotch. :-B


I just got Starscream yesterday, and I was wondering about that crotch. It seemed especially odd since the nosecone covers it in bot mode, so you can't see it anyway. I was thinking "Why'd they bother molding that if you can't even see it?" Now it makes sense!

And just to comment on this mold: I love the simplicity of it, and I love the flexibility and poseability it has in bot mode. Very fun toy to pose and play with.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Stormrider » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:51 am

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Stormrider wrote:They need to make a new mold for Jhiaxus based on the IDW design
Mold-wise, the new Jhiaxus toy is based on his IDW design. The Armada Starscream on its own even has some Jhiaxus-based molding details that it shouldn't have as Starscream, such as Jhiaxus's three-holed crotch. :-B


I don't remember IDW Jhiaxus having wings hanging off his upper arms. Also where is the thruster on his back? Three holes in his crotch doesn't do it for me.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:52 am

For me personally, I don't care if a figure resembles its comic/cartoon counterpart. But for what it's worth, this figure doesn't appear to be based on the IDW comic design in any way. It looks to me like it's simply a homage to the RiD figure.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:50 am

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Stormrider wrote:
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Stormrider wrote:They need to make a new mold for Jhiaxus based on the IDW design
Mold-wise, the new Jhiaxus toy is based on his IDW design. The Armada Starscream on its own even has some Jhiaxus-based molding details that it shouldn't have as Starscream, such as Jhiaxus's three-holed crotch. :-B


I don't remember IDW Jhiaxus having wings hanging off his upper arms. Also where is the thruster on his back? Three holes in his crotch doesn't do it for me.
I said "some" details not "all".

The Starscream figure on its own has the following Jhiaxus-based parts: The three-holed crotch, the abs molded on the front of the spine, the lower ribcage vents*, (though Starscream has these too, the ones on this figure have been "massaged", so to speak, to resemble those of both him and Jhiaxus), among other tiny details.

And the Jhiaxus remold has even more similarities to the IDW look, such as the shape of his whole upper torso, right down to the tiny trapezoidal shape on his chest. The RiD-based deco a really the main knock against this figure's comic-accuracy.

The figure itself can even be hunched over like IDW Jhiaxus:

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And IDW Jhiaxus does have wings, they're just usually tucked away behind his back, which, as the above pic shows, this figure can do (they aren't "hanging off his upper arms", they're attached to his back on ball joints behind his shoulders).
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Stormrider » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:20 am

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Stormrider wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormrider wrote:They need to make a new mold for Jhiaxus based on the IDW design
Mold-wise, the new Jhiaxus toy is based on his IDW design. The Armada Starscream on its own even has some Jhiaxus-based molding details that it shouldn't have as Starscream, such as Jhiaxus's three-holed crotch. :-B


I don't remember IDW Jhiaxus having wings hanging off his upper arms. Also where is the thruster on his back? Three holes in his crotch doesn't do it for me.
I said "some" details not "all".

The Starscream figure on its own has the following Jhiaxus-based parts: The three-holed crotch, the abs molded on the front of the spine, the lower ribcage vents*, (though Starscream has these too, the ones on this figure have been "massaged", so to speak, to resemble those of both him and Jhiaxus), among other tiny details.

And the Jhiaxus remold has even more similarities to the IDW look, such as the shape of his whole upper torso, right down to the tiny trapezoidal shape on his chest. The RiD-based deco a really the main knock against this figure's comic-accuracy.

The figure itself can even be hunched over like IDW Jhiaxus:

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And IDW Jhiaxus does have wings, they're just usually tucked away behind his back, which, as the above pic shows, this figure can do (they aren't "hanging off his upper arms", they're attached to his back on ball joints behind his shoulders).



Hmmm.. I agree the way you have displayed RiD Starscream looks more like IDW Jhiaxus. Good to know the wings can tuck back and the shoulder thrusters can pivot up. I would be interested in seeing Jhiaxus in the same pose with IDW colors.
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:24 am

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To be clear, that's not my photo. It was found in a search and comes from Tumblr. :oops:

Also, "Armada", not "RiD". ;)
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Re: New Generations Deluxe Wave 4 - Nightbeat Jhiaxus Windblade

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