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Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec. The last images we saw of this figure CLEARLY had the TakaraTomy logo on the box. Maybe it's just being distributed by Hasbro Asia instead of "released" by them?

I bet you're right. Even BBTS lists it as 'by Takara' not 'by Hasbro', and I'm pretty sure their supplier IS the manufacturer in the case of both companies, so if it were coming from Hasbro, BBTS would know it because that's who they'd be getting their order/invoice info from for stocking preorders.

xyl360 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec. The last images we saw of this figure CLEARLY had the TakaraTomy logo on the box. Maybe it's just being distributed by Hasbro Asia instead of "released" by them?

I bet you're right. Even BBTS lists it as 'by Takara' not 'by Hasbro', and I'm pretty sure their supplier IS the manufacturer in the case of both companies, so if it were coming from Hasbro, BBTS would know it because that's who they'd be getting their order/invoice info from for stocking preorders.

I know for a fact that both Takara and Hasbro share the same production company. (Not a good thing, according to one report I have read.) So it does have me wonder if they distribute Takara's line for them outside of Japan.

This itself may explain why Hasbro is promoting the item at this convention, as well as why there have been past items stamped with the Hasbro label. That, or Hasbro took over last minute seeing how they also shown Asian Market exclusive Generations toys at SDCC.

Hmmmm...

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec. The last images we saw of this figure CLEARLY had the TakaraTomy logo on the box. Maybe it's just being distributed by Hasbro Asia instead of "released" by them?

I bet you're right. Even BBTS lists it as 'by Takara' not 'by Hasbro', and I'm pretty sure their supplier IS the manufacturer in the case of both companies, so if it were coming from Hasbro, BBTS would know it because that's who they'd be getting their order/invoice info from for stocking preorders.

I know for a fact that both Takara and Hasbro share the same production company. (Not a good thing, according to one report I have read.) So it does have me wonder if they distribute Takara's line for them outside of Japan.

This itself may explain why Hasbro is promoting the item at this convention, as well as why there have been past items stamped with the Hasbro label. That, or Hasbro took over last minute seeing how they also shown Asian Market exclusive Generations toys at SDCC.

Hmmmm...

I have seen the japanese black jetwing prime's shipment box when i went to get mine. They shipped in the Hasbro box...

Same thing for the united line...

gavinfuzzy wrote:I have seen the japanese black jetwing prime's shipment box when i went to get mine. They shipped in the Hasbro box...

Same thing for the united line...

That would be due to the fact that both Hasbro and Takara Tomy share factories in parts of China. And because of that, the two companies have a deal that would make production and shipping be cheaper when... Or if... It is needed. Which itself dates back to the Diaclone days.

And with the boxes you mentioned... It is due to the fact that the UNITED line, much like the Henkei! line before it, are made from the same molds that were used to make the Classic and Generation lines. Same with the movie lines, Animated lines, and Prime. Even though the Prime lines have "Arms Micron" being the different of the batch.

But yeah... Most (if not all) of the more recent Takara Tomy stuff will be shipped out by Hasbro. And my only curious thought on this Sixshot is if the box solely says "Takara Tomy" or if it has "Hasbro" mentioned somewhere on it.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:But yeah... Most (if not all) of the more recent Takara Tomy stuff will be shipped out by Hasbro. And my only curious thought on this Sixshot is if the box solely says "Takara Tomy" or if it has "Hasbro" mentioned somewhere on it.

Well, here are the box pics that we saw before.

Thanks for the reminder, Sabrblade. It makes me think that Hasbro might be the one who has the Sixshot mold, and is the one distributing it on behalf of Takara Tomy. And even then, I do not like their decision to make it this way and only recommend it to those who want to have all variations of the character, and have both the U.S. and Japan versions... And want a third one to the set.

And to be honest, this makes me want to do more research on Transformers... As it kind of has that "New Age Diaclone" feel for me. Namely, we're hearing about variations and reissues of Generation 1 characters, in a similar manner Diaclone and other lines were reissued as Transformers.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And even then, I do not like their decision to make it this way and only recommend it to those who want to have all variations of the character, and have both the U.S. and Japan versions... And want a third one to the set.

Well, counting this release, the G1 Sixshot mold has been released more than just three times.

• 1987 Hasbro release
• 1987 Takara release
• 2002 Takara rerelease
• 2002 Takara Lucky Draw Sixshot Stealth Mode
• 2002 Takara Lucky Draw Sixshot Shadow Mode
• 2012 TakaraTomy Destron Sixshot metallic rerelease

Sabrblade wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And even then, I do not like their decision to make it this way and only recommend it to those who want to have all variations of the character, and have both the U.S. and Japan versions... And want a third one to the set.

Well, counting this release, the G1 Sixshot mold has been released more than just three times.

• 1987 Hasbro release
• 1987 Takara release
• 2002 Takara rerelease
• 2002 Takara Lucky Draw Sixshot Stealth Mode
• 2002 Takara Lucky Draw Sixshot Shadow Mode
• 2012 TakaraTomy Destron Sixshot metallic rerelease

Good point, but I could not count the Lucky Draws as part of this since they were not marketed. And even then, I wonder if a MIB version of either one is cheaper than the new Asian Market version.

That, and a MIB 1987 Takara version is rarer than a MIB 1987 Hasbro version. So for the non-hardcore buyer, a collector may just get the 1987 Hasbro version and the 2002 Takara reissue. Which has me wonder if if this is going to be cheaper than just getting the 2012 Asian Market version at one of those stores that want to be rid of them.

Bazinga. But seriously though... I wanted to thank you for the dates on those. That, and talking about this has made me hope to find a MISB Takara Sixshot, even though I also hope that they will do an Encore version.

I'd rather pay the extra $35 and buy Sixshot as opposed to the $150 retailers are asking for Artfire. To me, it makes more sense to pay an extra $35 and get 4 more modes. Each to their own, of course.

At that price, they should have given a few extra upgrades, like die-cast parts and rubber tires. Oh well, we'll just have to wait for MP Sixshot (don't tell me it'll never happen, I enjoy my dreams/delusions).