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These look better every time I see them. I'm definitely going for Optimus, Bumblebee, and Scourge. Maybe Perceptor and Kup. But the new Bee just looks so much better with the black stripes.

All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Wreck-Gar's motorcycle looks awesome. I'm a big fan of dual-sport and Dakar Rally type bikes. I like his bot form too, but his face looks way too human for my taste with the light-beige paint(looks like a flesh color to me) and black mustache. I guess his face was a similar color in the movie but I wish they would have gone with a metallic color.

I say quit complaining about why or why not a figure is in a certain line and just be glad we are getting these awesome figures in the first place. Don't like rubsigns? Easy fix, peel off the rubsign and get some reprolabel faction symbols.

all will be mine with the possible exception of laser prime...though i do have the two pack g2 megatron so its a possiblity

That is some fantastic artwork Laser prime has! good job Mr.Anonymous artist!
Makes me wish the toy looked that good

Some third party company should make upgrades for all the "Reveal the Shield" guys so that they can use the clip system that the "Generations" guys have. I mean, with the clip system not applying to the WfC figures, repaints from other lines, or Drift, it's an over-arching gimmick that arches over about six figures, two of whom are repaints. And other than different gimmicks and a couple figures in movie style, how different are Generations and RtS?

The Dude wrote:Some third party company should make upgrades for all the "Reveal the Shield" guys so that they can use the clip system that the "Generations" guys have. I mean, with the clip system not applying to the WfC figures, repaints from other lines, or Drift, it's an over-arching gimmick that arches over about six figures, two of whom are repaints. And other than different gimmicks and a couple figures in movie style, how different are Generations and RtS?

Someone's forgetting RtS Jazz and Tracks, who both have the clip system.

OlivusPrime wrote:All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Ah, so not just me waiting for Hasbro's Wheeljack so I don't have to pay 35 bucks for Takara's.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

OlivusPrime wrote:All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Ah, so not just me waiting for Hasbro's Wheeljack so I don't have to pay 35 bucks for Takara's.

Add a third. Wheeljack was my first Autobot Car figure back in '91, so I'm especially stoked.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

OlivusPrime wrote:All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Ah, so not just me waiting for Hasbro's Wheeljack so I don't have to pay 35 bucks for Takara's.

Add a third. Wheeljack was my first Autobot Car figure back in '91, so I'm especially stoked.

I've never owned G1 Wheeljack, myself. Should be cool to get one.

I like the rubsigns... but having an entirely separate line for them is just... makes little sense to me.

The packaging doesn't make much sense, but as long as the figs come out, I don't care too much what packaging they come in.

Is there any difference between this Bumblebee and the one that came in the Evolution of Bumblebee 3 pack?

i'll get em all with the exception of bee i'll have to see that in person first

eh Sergent kup lost his name too i see

Clever - Maintaining two sublines means they get to keep two colors of packaging on the shelf, meaning we can't just ignore the old HftD figures, we have to rifle through them to find the RtS figures.

As to who and why, I'm guessing the reasoning was...

Scourge - he's unambiguously evil (being, essentially, a demon), and needs to aesthetically match Cyclonus and Galvatron released previously, so standard symbol. (Though a rubsign would have matched him to the Cyclonus Repaint).

Kup - His paint job is way to cheery to have an ambiguous faction, and he's too old to truck, with any of that gimmicky, sneaky stuff, so standard symbol.

Wreck-Gar - Not technically an Autobot anyway, so rubsign.

Bumblebee - Same figure has already been released with standard symbols a couple of times, and he's a spy, so rubsign.

Perceptor - I got nothing, but I like how you have to flip down his chest panel to rub the symbol.

Optimus Prime - The rubsign is just silly, though it will make sense for the Nemesis Prime repaint.

Kibble wrote:The packaging doesn't make much sense, but as long as the figs come out, I don't care too much what packaging they come in.

Is there any difference between this Bumblebee and the one that came in the Evolution of Bumblebee 3 pack?

Yes. Legacy of Bumblebee Classic Bumblebee was just regular Classics Bumblebee with the white switched out for black, and grey for yellow. RtS Bumblebee has the movie inspired racing stripes. If you have the dough and patience, go for United: completely yellow and no chrome.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Yes. Legacy of Bumblebee Classic Bumblebee was just regular Classics Bumblebee with the white switched out for black, and grey for yellow. RtS Bumblebee has the movie inspired racing stripes. If you have the dough and patience, go for United: completely yellow and no chrome.

Ahh, yes...the other had the whole black back end. A quick google search or trip to the TF room woulda worked, but it was eaier to just pose the question. Thanks.

Caelus wrote:Clever - Maintaining two sublines means they get to keep two colors of packaging on the shelf, meaning we can't just ignore the old HftD figures, we have to rifle through them to find the RtS figures.

As to who and why, I'm guessing the reasoning was...

Scourge - he's unambiguously evil (being, essentially, a demon), and needs to aesthetically match Cyclonus and Galvatron released previously, so standard symbol. (Though a rubsign would have matched him to the Cyclonus Repaint).

Kup - His paint job is way to cheery to have an ambiguous faction, and he's too old to truck, with any of that gimmicky, sneaky stuff, so standard symbol.

Wreck-Gar - Not technically an Autobot anyway, so rubsign.

Bumblebee - Same figure has already been released with standard symbols a couple of times, and he's a spy, so rubsign.

Perceptor - I got nothing, but I like how you have to flip down his chest panel to rub the symbol.

Optimus Prime - The rubsign is just silly, though it will make sense for the Nemesis Prime repaint.

Perhaps the G2 Prime Repaint will be RID Scourge instead of Nemesis Prime and thus another reason to have G1 Scourge in a separate line so that when they do RID Scourge they can just use the name Scourge on the packaging.

I am definitely going to have to pick up each of these except Scourge (well.. maybe scourge.. don't like the wings though). I want Wheeljack and Jazz too if they ever bother coming out.

Honestly Hasbro being a US-based company you think they would have made much greater effort to get these into stores for Christmas. As it is, it is hard to find any store that carriers even Generations Wave 2 figures.

whacko wrote:I am definitely going to have to pick up each of these except Scourge (well.. maybe scourge.. don't like the wings though). I want Wheeljack and Jazz too if they ever bother coming out.

Honestly Hasbro being a US-based company you think they would have made much greater effort to get these into stores for Christmas. As it is, it is hard to find any store that carriers even Generations Wave 2 figures.

It's the stores ordering their product that's too blame, and the people not buying enough fast enough for the stores to bother ordering new stock.

T-Macksimus wrote:I have no issue with the fact that they brought back the old rub signs but what really gets me is them placing a deluxe class Optimus in this particular line up. There is no mystery whatsoever as to what is on his rub shield and also, he's a G2 design.

Oh really? Mo mystery whatsoever? I posed a theory when the RtS line was announced, that it'd be the perfect place to include Maximals, Predacons, Junkions and G2 (or any other faction they choose to include/create) characters, as they can surprise people a little, rather than giving away every single thing months before the toys come out.

Of course, I don't know if he has a G2 Autobot symbol under there. Honestly, that particular figure is a little underwhelming to me so I'll probably never find out in person, but there's certainly room for the possibility, no?

Now the rest of the figures:

Wreck-Gar - looks good, and I'm going to have to get him if only because he's one of the few TFs these days I see but can't immediately figure out the transformation. Yes, the face does look a bit too fleshy coloured, but I'm sure I can live with it.

Perceptor - looks pretty cool in robot mode. I don't hate the alt mode, but I don't like enough for me to buy the toy. I do like the chest gimmick.

Optimus Prime - yeah, looks like maybe a decent figure, but the paint isn't doing it for me. I may get the Nemesis Version.

Bumblebee - well, he looks ok. I already have the Classics one, so not keen on spending more money on another BB that doesn't look all that G1ish. If I didn't own the mold already, I'd get the United version, as is, I reckon I'll pass and make do.

Scourge - not really liking the alt mode, and the robot mode isn't all that great either, but I'll probably get him to go with Galvatron and Cyclonus. I do like the weapon. It's Fracas alright, he's just been tagged with some transfomation inhibitor so he doesn't run away.

Kup - oh he has far too many different shades of green. The colour on his head and wrists in particular really puts me off. The extortionately priced E-Hobby 3pack is looking a lot more interesting.

so hasbros Wreck-gar is the same as Takara's?? i can't really see any difference...it will save me $25 xD Wheeljack is a definite buy from both. I worried that hasbro will chance wheeljacks paint apps like they did with turbo tracks. Just got him in the mail on friday amazing figure as well as Skullgrin (he is def my fav from the new lines so far ) But can anyone confirm Wreck-Gar is the same Hasbro and Takara?

Mkall wrote:I'm never one to care about the box artwork, 98% of it ends up in the recycling bin anyways.

Ditto.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I say quit complaining about why or why not a figure is in a certain line and just be glad we are getting these awesome figures in the first place.

Ditto.

My wallet is aching already. I want all of these except Bumblebee, I already have the first version, and it's enough for me.

These look great! All save BB are preordered, Scourge x3! Gotta have my Sweeps, after all.

whacko wrote:I am definitely going to have to pick up each of these except Scourge (well.. maybe scourge.. don't like the wings though). I want Wheeljack and Jazz too if they ever bother coming out.

wait what do u mean if jazz comes out?