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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:54 pm

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>Senator Ratbat

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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:02 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:That is, until SENATOR MOTHER LOVING RATBAT came along.


Reminds of Samuel Jackson. Can't say "Samuel Jackson" without a "bleepin'" in the middle. Samuel bleepin' Jackson. Senator bleepin' Ratbat... :-?
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:03 pm

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omagod, Senator Ratbat there is probably one of the prettiest repaints i've ever seen.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:14 pm

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Rated X wrote:Honestly, I cant say Im a big fan of Senator Ratbat, Energon Ravage, or any other animal character getting re-purposed as a humaniod robot that talks.
Yet, the very first portrayal of all of Soundwave's animal minions had them speaking before they even first appeared in the cartoon. ;)

Not to mention that the cartoon had other animal characters who spoke (Dinobots, Insecticons, Predacons, Terrorcons, Horrorcons, Decepticon Headmasters, Trypticon, Sky-Lynx, Ramhorn, etc). Ravage himself even spoke in the third G1 episode. ;)

robotmel wrote:Now thats another Cybertron mold I would like, especially in the Ratbat deco! :D
But it was. Universe (2008) Ratbat:

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Flashwave wrote:But wasn't the last gumanoid ravage in Alternators? Or am I missing a figure somewhere?

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Yep, thats whom I was referring to! ;)

I guess it would make more sense to Hasbro/Takara to change those old animal Transformers into humanoid/vehicle bots to give them more of a selling chance and leave the animal bots to 3rd Partys to play with for a while?
A Transformer will sell more using the traditional aesthetic than an animal orientation. >:oP
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Though, in Alternators Battle Ravage's case, he was Beast Wars Ravage, so it made sense for him to be two-legged.

The later Alternators "Decepticon Ravage" that turned into a Jaguar car, however, was four-legged and represented G1 Ravage. ;)
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:13 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:*sighs* Can no one transform that wing/cape assembly properly? Yeesh. Still, Ratbat is a great redeco for that mold. Especially with the wings transformed properly. Smooth move, TakaraTomy. Smooth indeed. Grimlock, you suck. Get off my screen.


Everybody likes the wings tilted down to resemble G1 Scourge. If the transformation only allowed the "proper" straight winged look the figure would have been an epic fail.

On Ratbat, it's a big maybe. I kind of like the Target repaint better. That mold makes the character more unique while this mold really just makes him a purple Scourge.


Oh, no no. I mean the wings being open. They open to reveal a compartment to hold his weapons, as we all know. However, there's another hinge wrapped around the hinge that opens the compartments. Push on it, leave the compartments open, and you have Scourge's full cape. Scourge always had a cape made out of his wings.

As seen here:

This is Scourge as we're given: http://myanimeshelf.com/upload/dynamic/ ... 30/s21.jpg
These are the hinges I'm talking about: http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/ga ... gsopen.jpg
This is Scourge with his wings correctly transformed: (this would work even better with Ratbat) http://media.photobucket.com/image/rece ... 001-24.jpg

Which looks like these two: http://media.photobucket.com/image/rece ... e01b-1.jpg

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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby RiddlerJ » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:55 pm

That Ratbat repaint is nice, but I already have two Ratbats for my classicverse shelf (the Universe and Generations versions).

If I picked up this one, I would have to find some kind of insect head and make the figure into Bugly.

Janus Prime wrote:Yes, we first learned about this new head over 2 years ago. I guess the only ones that still are unaccounted for are Lugnut´s and Warpath´s alternate heads.


I remember those. People thought that Lugnut might possibly be repainted into Omega Supreme while I think it's been confirmed that Warpath will be redone as Hardhead.

Personally, I would like to see Warpath redone as G1 Treadshot or Gutcruncher (like the legends version was) and Lugnut as a humanoid version of Sky Lynx. It could work if they gave him a lynxesque head. I can't imagine who else it could be made into.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Hotrodimust » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:02 am

Autobot032 wrote:*sighs* Can no one transform that wing/cape assembly properly? Yeesh. Still, Ratbat is a great redeco for that mold. Especially with the wings transformed properly. Smooth move, TakaraTomy. Smooth indeed. Grimlock, you suck. Get off my screen.

Lol it's the whole reason the wings seperate :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Flashwave » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:55 am

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Flashwave wrote:But wasn't the last gumanoid ravage in Alternators? Or am I missing a figure somewhere?

:D
Yep, thats whom I was referring to! ;)

I guess it would make more sense to Hasbro/Takara to change those old animal Transformers into humanoid/vehicle bots to give them more of a selling chance and leave the animal bots to 3rd Partys to play with for a while?
A Transformer will sell more using the traditional aesthetic than an animal orientation. >:oP
:D


Nah, I don't think that's it, so much as they neededrepaint fodder and the Decepticons were lacking. As you may recall, we got a Jaguar Jaguar a few months later complete with Ravage's rear missiles, which awesomely will fold out under the car mode. And he sold just fine. (the older fig was reprurposed then as BW Ravage, who was bipedal more on account of upgrades and having a Jag beast mode)

Also, don't foget the Terrorcons, ROTF Ravage, DOTM, Laserbeak, Scorponok, And we're getting Beast Formers right now. The animals do sell, it comes more down to what homage they were planning to do and can they get a head on the figure?

Although, In Ratbat's case, i think it was more that someone felt like an animal mode was too primitve and that cybertron would have been beastist to tranformers with lessthanhumanoid bot modes. So Ratty got a face.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Janus Prime » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:32 pm

RiddlerJ wrote:
Janus Prime wrote:Yes, we first learned about this new head over 2 years ago. I guess the only ones that still are unaccounted for are Lugnut´s and Warpath´s alternate heads.


I remember those. People thought that Lugnut might possibly be repainted into Omega Supreme while I think it's been confirmed that Warpath will be redone as Hardhead.

Personally, I would like to see Warpath redone as G1 Treadshot or Gutcruncher (like the legends version was) and Lugnut as a humanoid version of Sky Lynx. It could work if they gave him a lynxesque head. I can't imagine who else it could be made into.


I´m not sure if Hardhead is confirmed, but it would be a nice addition. Lugnut is still a mistery, I just don´t know what character he might represent, maybe it´s Omega, maybe not.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Sodan-1 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:42 pm

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Rather undecided on Grimlock. Takara's doesn't look significantly different from the Hasbro version to bother with it.

Ratbat is a pass. That head doesn't even look THAT Ratbat-ty.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:51 pm

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Sodan-1 wrote:
Ratbat is a pass. That head doesn't even look THAT Ratbat-ty.


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I dunno, looks pretty Ratbat-ish if you ask me.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby El Duque » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:19 pm

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Thanks to e-Hobby we have some new clear images of Takara Tomy's recently announced Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat. Grimlock gets the shiny metallic makeover, which includes a more accurate red abdomen. Ratbat gets a brand new shiny metallic deco with IDW Comics inspired Senator Ratbat head first saw on Generations Scourge's instruction sheet. Images mirrored below.

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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Manterax Prime » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:26 pm

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The only difference I see on that Grimlock is the game-accurate red abdomen section and grey feet.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Rhinox23 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:30 pm

Manterax Prime wrote:The only difference I see on that Grimlock is the game-accurate red abdomen section and grey feet.


Yeah, I'm right there with you. I was really hoping for an overall super shiny metallic silver and gold paint as well, but especially the silver! I have him preordered from BBTS right now but I might be cancelling it. I just don't think it's different enough to justify getting him for the $63. The metallic black looks nice but the overall look may not be enough. Oh well, I've got some time to make up my mind.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby President-prime » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:37 pm

That head on eat at is supercool. A coat of purple males a big difference. Wow!
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby xyl360 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:38 pm

I've got both preordered (and staying that way, I'm not getting the Hasbro version of Grimmy at all). I would like to see a side by side comparison of the two Grimlocks though so I can really see what differences there are in the same lighting with the same camera.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:39 pm

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Manterax Prime wrote:The only difference I see on that Grimlock is the game-accurate red abdomen section and grey feet.
That red abdomen is enough to make me want it. :D
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:40 pm

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So many times I held that Scourge fig in my hands, tempted to buy. Glad I never did, though. Ratbat looks awesome! Yay for IDW head! :APPLAUSE:
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Noideaforaname » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:56 pm

I'm not usually one for bots with "anime-faces" (much less on bots that are *supposed* to be animals), but Ratbat looks so nice. I hope Hasbro carries him over, I really don't want to have to pay ~$40.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby wolverinetodd » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:00 pm

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What?
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby datguy86 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:05 pm

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President-prime wrote:That head on eat at is supercool. A coat of purple males a big difference. Wow!


What?


"eat at" is what happens when a person's fingers slip on a QWERTY keyboard. 'e' is next to 'r', and the space key is below 'b'. It's supposed to be 'ratbat' but the poster missed.
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby President-prime » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:10 pm

Sorry I meant that head on ratbat is supercool. Purple makes that mode looks good. iPhone auto seller sucks
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Postby President-prime » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:11 pm

Datngu: you're funny
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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:21 pm

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Re: New Takara Transformers Generations Preorders: TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and TG20 Ratbat

Postby Rated X » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:36 pm

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Uggghhh...That tail !!!

It looks like when a lizzards tail breaks off and he has a stump. Will he grow a new one. Ratbat pre-ordered. Not so much that I like the IDW character, but I like the mold.
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