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Mkall wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:WHY CAN'T HASBRO DO THIS. there combiners are five guys, made from three molds, and they don't even have elbows

It's not really fair to compare something like this to something Hasbro made almost 5 years ago with a much more limited budget than they do now.

I think if Hasbro were to get back in on the proper gestalt train, we'd all be impressed.

I really can't give Hasbro a pass on this anymore. I have a hard time believing that they have a more limited budget than these guys, it just doesn't make sense. I remember sitting at Botcon 2007 when they told us that the gestalts were just too complicated for their designers to do in their time frame. I'm gonna have to call bull on them. The transformations for Hercules are not all that complicated, but they are very effective. So Hasbro is telling me that they're paid designers can't do what a couple of guys in China who are basically doing what amounts to guerilla warfare with toys are doing.

Time to step it up boys.

Mykltron wrote:

--B-- wrote:I couldn't figure out why I didn't like this for the longest time, but I think it just looks too cartoony for me, plus I am not a fan of the head.

A toy of a cartoon figure looks too cartoony for you?

It's called aesthetics & makes sense. That's why the MT one will make my classics shelf and this version will be alone. I agree that he just doesn't quite fit for me.

Geekee1 wrote:

Mkall wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:WHY CAN'T HASBRO DO THIS. there combiners are five guys, made from three molds, and they don't even have elbows

It's not really fair to compare something like this to something Hasbro made almost 5 years ago with a much more limited budget than they do now.

I think if Hasbro were to get back in on the proper gestalt train, we'd all be impressed.

I really can't give Hasbro a pass on this anymore. I have a hard time believing that they have a more limited budget than these guys, it just doesn't make sense. I remember sitting at Botcon 2007 when they told us that the gestalts were just too complicated for their designers to do in their time frame. I'm gonna have to call bull on them. The transformations for Hercules are not all that complicated, but they are very effective. So Hasbro is telling me that they're paid designers can't do what a couple of guys in China who are basically doing what amounts to guerilla warfare with toys are doing.

Time to step it up boys.

i totally agree with you geekee. it seems like hasbro is more concerned with dishing out quantity crap over quality(and innovative) toys. never mind that they are skimping out on the paint job(or lack there of).

i dont know if anybody has the ROTF devastator.....but that toy sucks! it seems like they rushed it. the individual forms dont have a robot mode. it has BAD qc all over. the guy cant even stand because his joints are so loose!

man....i cant wait to get hercules so he can put rotf devy out of its misery....im telling you now...its gonna be a lopsided fight

Regarding the knee articulation issue: I've seen two pictures of Structor/Scrapper that could provide evidence for such articulation. A Google image search for "TFC Toys Structor" turns up an image of a mostly green prototype connected to a Heavylabor, showing what appears to be a slight knee bend. I've also seen a grey prototype rear shot of the vehicle mode where the connector port looks to be designed similar to Munitioner's. If a rear shot of the combined form ever shows up, that'll probably go far in dispelling the mystery.

I'm hoping he does have knee articulation. I can easily believe that Hercules won't be very stable in bent-knee poses, but I'd still like the articulation to exist.

EDIT: Also, close-up shots of Mad Blender's head appear to show a hinged combiner port behind it.

Oh, and on another topic, I'll put a rough estimate at the combined figure's height at 15 in. based on the vehicle mode Exgraver in front of Hercules. I was actually hoping it'd be a bit shorter, like 12-13in., but I still like the look of this one over the Maketoys version.

Hopefully, Heavy Labor will ship out next week.

Just got my shipping notice from Robotkingdom, I'm a week away from some Heavy Labor goodness!

This looks **** awesome pardon my French.

The only concern i have is stability, i.e. will everything stay together.

The only thing they can improve is to replace the damn purple and red with black guns which would look more realistic IMO.