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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby VirusCarnage » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:43 pm

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viruscarnage wrote:I like that Optimus

So do I, but since he's faded I suspect he might be a memory, or maybe even optimus's ghost. I can see how they might try to revive optimus.

I barely noticed that he was faded, I assumed that the magazine was designed that way.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby The Thuggernaut » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:45 pm

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Grimlock64 wrote:What if Optimus plays Obi-Wan here and shows up as a ghost to guide Bumblebee now and then? I'd be okay with that.

Yea that would be cool! It would also be good news for those wanting Peter Cullen as Optimus in the cartoon :grin:
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby ishigoto » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:47 pm

The...dat background it looks...CYBERTRONIAN?! A CARTOON THAT TAKES PLACE ENTIRELY ON CYBERTRON? I THINK I'M HYPERVENTILATING. ALL OF MY YES.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby VirusCarnage » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:47 pm

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Grimlock64 wrote:What if Optimus plays Obi-Wan here and shows up as a ghost to guide Bumblebee now and then? I'd be okay with that.

Yea that would be cool! It would also be good news for those wanting Peter Cullen as Optimus in the cartoon :grin:

I would have to think that Peter Cullen is a must have for Optimus now.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby ishigoto » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:49 pm

I think if that's so, I wonder if this just might be an IDW situation, Optimus is gone, now Bee and the gang must try and bring order back to a war ravaged Cybertron after the Autobot victory...then again they might try something new.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby CR71Autobot » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:52 pm

But... Prime is dead...
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby durroth » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:53 pm

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optimus does not look amused
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby El Duque » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:55 pm

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You guys are crazy if you think they're not going to bring Prime back to life. Besides if he were a ghost why would he have a new design?
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby VirusCarnage » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:57 pm

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CR71Autobot wrote:But... Prime is dead...

He'll be back, you can put money on that.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:58 pm

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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Optimizzy » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:11 pm

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I just read the posts on another site about this. It diverted into some unintentional hilarity.

I like the looks of this, but I'm also burned out on the Prime look. I liked it ok, but i'd like to see something that takes advantage of the aligned art used for the pop-up book.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby hinomars19 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:19 pm

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Please don't lynch me about the comparisons, but:

If they are going with the simplified, stylized cartoon look, why not just get Derrick J. Wyatt back? At least his art has charm.

It all still looks as flat as hell....reeeaaaalllly hoping it's not bad flash animation.

On the flip side...I see potential for cool optimus toy :D
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:25 pm

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Now, Optimus looks badass. As do the buildings in the background.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Optimizzy » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:29 pm

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What I really want is an all-ecompasing perfect Prime toy to represent my ultimate version of Prime. The not-optimus Orion almost did that, but it just fell flat to me. WFC Prime is next but not quite. I was hoping the new show would be based on the aligned revelations book and I would dig that one. I don't like the tiny waist. As it is, I'm not interested in another Prime ...er...Prime.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Spleenzorio » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:42 pm

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I dunno if anyone's mentioned this, but Bumblebee's face kinda resemble's Prime's. Will we finally see all this love for our yellow friend culminate into him becoming a Prime? :O
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Samsonator » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:45 pm

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While it's clearly just a coloured design sketch (note the sketch lines especially around the shoulders that have yet to be cleaned up) the design is definitely interesting, and I think it looks pretty damn cool. I'm guessing that, as with the Bumblebee design, it's "not the final product" or whatever they said, but hey. I'm liking what I see so far. As for the fading, I'm guessing less "Ghost Prime" and more "attempting to hide areas of the sketch that are incomplete"
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:02 pm

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I'm having a strange feeling for some reason. Something tells me that this series would be like Beast Machines (disgusting robot modes and not a lot of episodes). :MAX2: I could be wrong, but we have seen these character designs before and it's starting to get old. >:oP
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby OptimusPrimeval » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:13 pm

There is blurb further on in the magazine...
"A lighter, more comedic feel"? As long as it goes in the direction of Animated and not in the direction of Beast Wars 2, I can get behind that! The movie is not going to satiate me until next spring though, that is stupid! I wonder what Japan will do? They could run with Go! a little longer...
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Shockwave7 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:14 pm

This would explain why TF Prime bailed on the CGI format. CGI cartoons are notoriously expensive, and even introducing ONE new character is enormously compliated and costly, as was seen with Predaking. Creating, rigging and animating every new character takes up time and effort from the entire production crew. They had the entire season revolve around Predaking, and he wasn't even that good a character.

Not only that, but CGI tv shows haven't evolved to the point where they can do crowds, or large complicated scenes very well. It's just not cost effective. This is why CGI shows on tv are usually set on alien worlds, or sparsely populated towns, or deserts - where there isn't much scenery to render or crowds to deal with. Even Cybertron, while more complicated to the eye, was devoid of any visible life except for the already-created crew of robots that had already been on the show for two seasons. Any crowds that are rendered are 'clones', be it he MECH troopers (all masked), the Insecticons (all carbon copies), or the Terrorcons. There was no 'individuality' in any of the crowds because they were too lazy and/or cheap to spring for individualized characters. Note how on the "New York" episode in Season 2, they had them go immediately underground into the subways where the only other life form was the subway worker. This meant that they wouldn't have to render any crowds, cars, trucks or other things you would normally see above the surface in New York. I think this is primarily one of the reasons why the newer CGI "Batman" series failed so quickly. It was supposed to be set in Gotham City - but you could tell that (limited by expense and rendering technology) they were artificially rigging each episode to simplify the settings so there wouldn't be any crowds or complicated scenery. And for what was supposed to be a sprawling city, full of people and life, that just sucked.

This new show must be their attempt to fix that. By combining some CGI with hand drawn stuff, they must figure it will be much cheaper and easier to barf out new episodes and introduce more characters - as well as being able to put in crowds and varieties of people without needing CRAY computers and billions of dollars. Hopefully that means we'll see more than just a small core of characters. I like individual characterization, and more focus being put on fewer characters (The G1 cartoon jammed so many characters in that it felt impersonal). But I'd like more than just one or two new characters a season.

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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby ausbot » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:15 pm

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Bee's Autobot symbol is not red, I wonder is this means anything?
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby Noideaforaname » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:19 pm

Optimus has a reeeeally similar chest design and proportions to Bumblebee's. Like you could paint them in each other's colors and they wouldn't look all that different.
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby RSDADDIMUS » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:23 pm

I'm actually thrilled about this. :) :DANCE: :-B
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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby BumbleDouche » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:40 pm

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Great, they have eyebrows now... What's next, zits?

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Re: New Transformers TV Series Debuting in 2015 - First Look at Bumblebee

Postby ILL-Star » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:41 pm

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There appears to be quite a few comments on Optimus and Megatron not returning. I thought It was stated last year that the two would return for the new series. Perhaps that changed. And it would be kind of cool if it did. But I doubt that.
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