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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Manterax Prime » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:49 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.


Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?
Replace "nose" with " little stub between the eyes". :P


Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........then again, I may be reading too far into it.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby njb902 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:54 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.


Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?
Replace "nose" with " little stub between the eyes". :P


Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........then again, I may be reading too far into it.


The lack of a closed faceplate doesn't help any.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:56 pm

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Manterax Prime wrote:Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........


Not quite. Wheeljack also has a stub similarly to Smokescreen.

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In fact, his is blockier than Smokescreen's, which is closer to BH Prime.

Crap, I've given you ideas.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Manterax Prime » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:01 pm

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Ok, 3 things that point to Smokescreen being BH Optimus Prime

1. Damn near identical faces

2. Stub between the eyes. Optimus didn't have one.

3. This is going by the toys. Smokescreen's vehicle mode with quill armor has 4 spikes total in front, 2 on each side of the grill. BH Prime's vehicle mode has 4 spikes total in front, 2 on each side of the grill.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Manterax Prime » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:06 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........


Not quite. Wheeljack also has a stub similarly to Smokescreen.

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In fact, his is blockier than Smokescreen's, which is closer to BH Prime.

Crap, I've given you ideas.


Ok, point. However, Wheeljack's "nose" angles up to his eyebrows forming an inverted trapezoid, wheres the "noses" of Smokescreen and BH Prime are square in shape.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:24 pm

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Manterax Prime wrote:1. Damn near identical faces


Except for these:

The nose stub is a block on BH Optimus while Smokescreen's is flat square.
Smokescreen has a goatee while BH Optimus lacks one.
BH Optimus' mouth is closer to his stub than Smokescreen.

2. Stub between the eyes. Optimus didn't have one.


As I alluded to previously, Wheeljack has a stub between the eyes. It doesn't mean all three of them are related. BH Optimus, Smokescreen, and Wheeljack have different stubs; blocky, flat, and inverted trapezoid respectively.

3. This is going by the toys. Smokescreen's vehicle mode with quill armor has 4 spikes total in front, 2 on each side of the grill. BH Prime's vehicle mode has 4 spikes total in front, 2 on each side of the grill.


But toys don't always = show. :???:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby zatara1701 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:33 pm

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I don't see it. :???:



Well, at this point EVERYTHING here is speculation, BUT when you REALLY look at the pics I see it...

() The shape and angle of the eyes
() Center crest's shape and size
() The red pieces on going down the center of Smokescreen's head...turn them blue.
() The shape and angle of the chin and their adjacent "cheek" pieces

I dont have Photo shop, but I know someone out there does...Just take Smokescreen's pic and change the colors to Prime's... It's actually kinda cool.

Still ALL speculation, but I DO see the definite similarities... The reason the toy would be "Optimus Prime" would be for 1) Secretiveness on Hasbor's part, but 2) Smokescreen idolizes Prime and will present himself as such (assuming our observations have merit) because if THE OPTIMUS PRIME shows up to fight, the Cons would loose their Cybertronian Bowels... Especially Megatron...assuming Predaking doesn't eat him lol.

Random thought...Maybe the Dinobots can come back the same way the Preds are being resurrected. There aren't many viable Autobots out there, so why not "make" some more? lol
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby mbd88prime » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:32 pm

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not sure how this relates but the new magnus toy has the same wings as bh op. do they both have them or does one get them from the other?

somone said earlier that magnus creates a new body for op with the forge. i would agree and that means he is a prime and the toy comes with the forge so hasbro has already hinted at this.

magnus and op have roughly similar stats so he could be considered at the physical and mental level of a prime.

thus magnus becomes the next prime then uses the forge to recreate op.

not sure how smokescreen fits in but op doesnt look like him smokescreen's face is too thin and the center crest thing looks like ops more so than smokescreen's. besides why would smokescreen be called optimus prime and take on his physical appearence? he would more likely be called his own unique title and keep his color scheme just like orion pax did.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:41 pm

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zatara1701 wrote:Well, at this point EVERYTHING here is speculation, BUT when you REALLY look at the pics I see it...

() The shape and angle of the eyes


What's so definitive about them?

() Center crest's shape and size


Optimus' crest is longer.

...

() The red pieces on going down the center of Smokescreen's head...turn them blue.


Turn them blue...then remove them. BH Optimus doesn't have those pieces on his face.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Autobot Megatron » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:12 am

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Ok, I'm not getting into this Prime/Smokescreen thing. It's crazy. So it's probably true, but that not the point.
Looks great, Predaking actually IS combiner-size, which makes me happy, and a human city (Jasper?) is destroyed, so it is a 'Con invasion, and the humans arn't just going to ignore the giant base. Overall, as long as Prime's ressurection isn't too cheesy if it happens, I think Prime's surpassing BW for my top spot. :DANCE:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby megatronis » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:32 am

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WHAT THE HELL HASBRO!! Was it to hard to just rebuild him?
Diddnt u learn your lesson with G1? Do not kill prime.
Num one rule there...even tho hell prob only stay dead
For like 1 episode.. :-x :BOOM:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby megatronis » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:37 am

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Call me a fanboy...but u just dont kill prime
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Manterax Prime » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:40 am

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megatronis wrote:WHAT THE HELL HASBRO!! Was it to hard to just rebuild him?
Diddnt u learn your lesson with G1? Do not kill prime.
Num one rule there...even tho hell prob only stay dead
For like 1 episode.. :-x :BOOM:


More like "Forever", with forever translating to "until the next cartoon"
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:09 pm

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megatronis wrote:Call me a fanboy...but u just dont kill prime


Actually, killing Optimus has become part of the lore. G1 established it. It's happened in Beast Wars, Armada, Revenge of the Fallen, Animated, and now here.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:05 pm

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megatronis wrote:even tho hell prob only stay dead
For like 1 episode.. :-x :BOOM:


Except when a character dies in this show, they stay dead and they don't come back.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby njb902 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:18 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
megatronis wrote:even tho hell prob only stay dead
For like 1 episode.. :-x :BOOM:


Except when a character dies in this show, they stay dead and they don't come back.


So they have said, however whether they stick to it isn't necessarily up to them.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:15 pm

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njb902 wrote:So they have said, however whether they stick to it isn't necessarily up to them.


Well, if Hasbro wants to sell Optimus toys and they want him alive, and the writers want to stick to this motto, then they just don't kill Optimus. Put him in stasis until Ultra Magnus bangs him with The Hammer. ;)

Uh....besides, it's not like Hasbro cares whether or not anyone else dies besides the moneymakers Optimus & Bumblebee.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby njb902 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:19 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:So they have said, however whether they stick to it isn't necessarily up to them.


Well, if Hasbro wants to sell Optimus toys and they want him alive, and the writers want to stick to this motto, then they just don't kill Optimus. Put him in stasis until Ultra Magnus bangs him with The Hammer. ;)

Uh....besides, it's not like Hasbro cares whether or not anyone else dies besides the moneymakers Optimus & Bumblebee.


Isn't that just the plain truth.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Va'al » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:35 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:they just don't kill Optimus. Put him in stasis until Ultra Magnus bangs him with The Hammer. ;)


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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby zatara1701 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:43 pm

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zatara1701 wrote:Well, at this point EVERYTHING here is speculation, BUT when you REALLY look at the pics I see it...

() The shape and angle of the eyes


What's so definitive about them?


What more can I say beyond the shape and angle of the eyes?? As in the shape and angle are similar/same


() Center crest's shape and size


Optimus' crest is longer.


Yeah, OP's is longer, but they are the same shape... If Smokescreen becomes a Prime, obviously lots of attributes change or get bigger while maintaining some similarity.


() The red pieces on going down the center of Smokescreen's head...turn them blue.


Turn them blue...then remove them. BH Optimus doesn't have those pieces on his face.


Look again at Prime...he has shapes going down the center of his head in the same place and shape as Smokescreen's.

Today as I came home, I looked up at my BH OP and thought of something else...the breast plate arrangement is similar to Smokesceen's also...shrug...who knows.

As I said before, this is ALL SPECULATION... so why some people are getting all bent out of shape is beyond me. Some people just need to chill... :BANG_HEAD:

Is it such a HORRIBLE idea that SS could become a Prime?? Optimus was once Orion Pax, a lowly clerk a record keeper...Funny, that record keeper was trained and taught by Alpha Trion...Oh wait, who else did Alpha Trio take under his wing AND hide the last key of the Omega Lock in??? Of yeah...Smokescreen :HEADHURTS:

We will see soon enough...till then, it's fun to think about :KREMZEEK:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:59 pm

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zatara1701 wrote:Look again at Prime...he has shapes going down the center of his head in the same place and shape as Smokescreen's.


Look again at Prime...

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The "shapes going down his face" are part of his helmet whereas Smokescreen's come out from under his helmet. Also, Smokescreen's red "sideburns" curve in at the chin. Optimus' does not do this because they do not exist.

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Is it such a HORRIBLE idea that SS could become a Prime??


I never said that it was a bad idea. :???:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby Manterax Prime » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:34 pm

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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:05 pm

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Manterax Prime wrote:Need I point out that Magnus may not ever show up.


He has four toys, he's made a cameo already, and in Rage of the Dinobots he left Cybertron specifically to join up with Optimus' crew. The aforementioned comic is supposed to bridge to the third season of Prime. The possibility of Magnus' lack of appearance is a very slim chance.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby megatronis » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:31 pm

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megatronis wrote:Call me a fanboy...but u just dont kill prime


Actually, killing Optimus has become part of the lore. G1 established it. It's happened in Beast Wars, Armada, Revenge of the Fallen, Animated, and now here.


And ive hated it every time....ive watched ever show theyve made amd have enjoyed the lore of bots since I was in 2nd grade..
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Re: New Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Trailer

Postby megatronis » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:52 pm

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megatronis wrote:even tho hell prob only stay dead
For like 1 episode.. :-x :BOOM:


Except when a character dies in this show, they stay dead and they don't come back.



unless you go with the zombie ideas....cliff cameback...skyquake...all those bots at the war zone...ect ect :-B
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #103 - Road Trip
Twincast / Podcast #103:
"Road Trip"
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Posted: Sunday, October 19th, 2014