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So he's putting "the fate of his kind" above the fate of just one? Would have been a good mindset to have back on Cybertron before he screwed it to save a few kids. I get why he had to, but its made this scene's wording feel a bit out of place.

Tihs is just wrong, i thought optimus was tougher than this, but the trailer makes it seems that he was too badly crushed by the rubble and badly damaged.

The episode writers must've been desperate to find a way to "kill the old prime and introduce the new reborn prime later" later instead of just upgrading him after being rescued from the rubble of the old lair.

Hm... Is there really going to be a new prime? Somehow I doubt it. Still, it does look epic. This should be fun.

Wow, this looks awesome! My guess is Optimus will tell Smokescreen to take the Matrix and pass it to the next Prime, but given Smokescreen's general disregard for following orders and doing what he thinks is right instead he will do something to save/revive Optimus instead and the result will be Optimus in a newly reformatted/upgraded body (sort of along the lines of what Sari did in TF Animated). Or maybe that is just wishful thinking

Pretty cool, I´m excited about Beast Hunters, but the thing that makes me happy the most is that the creators are trying to pull off something, know what I mean? they have something in mind, an idea, a concept, I bet this season will go to places that we would´ve never predict.

timcourtois wrote:Hm... Is there really going to be a new prime? Somehow I doubt it. Still, it does look epic. This should be fun.

I don't know about anyone else, but for some reason to me this held more meaning. My gut tells me line is about, maybe not just a new Prime, but a new "Transformers: Prime" based series. Pick a character to focus on then (Smokescreen? Bulkhead and Wheeljack reforming the Wreckers? Who knows...) follow him through his exploits. AS for a new Prime literally, I have this other feeling that Jack will somehow be involved. Just a weird hunch.

Next series: a perfect way to follow up and introduce TONS of new characters to sell- Transformers: Rescue. The Autobots and Decepticons leave Earth to search for more of their kind among the stars. (random thought)

The perfect set up for Ultra Magnus to arrive. If "Rage of the Dinobots" is any indication, he is coming.

RAcast wrote:All right guys and gals, let's start the betting! How long will Prime stay dead?

I'll say none. He'll probably just go into stasis lock to keep him online for as long as possible, so he can come back with a new body without dying. Otherwise, they'd be cheapening death by having a dead guy come back to life, which is something the show's creators have been firmly against doing.

BeastProwl wrote:So he's putting "the fate of his kind" above the fate of just one? Would have been a good mindset to have back on Cybertron before he screwed it to save a few kids. I get why he had to, but its made this scene's wording feel a bit out of place.

Considering how Cybertron was already dead long before the show even began, there was nothing to lose back when he saved the Earth at the cost of the Omega Lock.

Sabrblade wrote:The perfect set up for Ultra Magnus to arrive. If "Rage of the Dinobots" is any indication, he is coming.

RAcast wrote:All right guys and gals, let's start the betting! How long will Prime stay dead?

I'll say none. He'll probably just go into stasis lock to keep him online for as long as possible, so he can come back with a new body without dying. Otherwise, they'd be cheapening death by having a dead guy come back to life, which is something the show's creators have been firmly against doing.

BeastProwl wrote:So he's putting "the fate of his kind" above the fate of just one? Would have been a good mindset to have back on Cybertron before he screwed it to save a few kids. I get why he had to, but its made this scene's wording feel a bit out of place.

Considering how Cybertron was already dead long before the show even began, there was nothing to lose back when he saved the Earth at the cost of the Omega Lock.

Nicely put.

i will give him 3 episodes. then he will be back.

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Tihs is just wrong, i thought optimus was tougher than this, but the trailer makes it seems that he was too badly crushed by the rubble and badly damaged.

Really? 'Cause the base blew the hell up on his ass. Normally, anyone inside of the blast radius would be extra crispy bacon.

At least he appears to be in better condition than Megatron was after the Space Bridge explosion, since he's aware of his surroundings and he can communicate.

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Tihs is just wrong, i thought optimus was tougher than this, but the trailer makes it seems that he was too badly crushed by the rubble and badly damaged.

Tougher than this? Thougher than THIS?! He survived the blast that destroyed his whole base with just one shot!
What do you think he is? OMEGA SUPREME?!
Scrap that last line.

It's not the rubble that NEARLY killed him. It was the blast that was seen miles away.

Hmmm.. I would like to point out that the Beast Hunters Prime voyager toy has a very Smokescreen-ish face on it.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Tihs is just wrong, i thought optimus was tougher than this, but the trailer makes it seems that he was too badly crushed by the rubble and badly damaged.

Really? 'Cause the base blew the hell up on his ass. Normally, anyone inside of the blast radius would be extra crispy bacon.

At least he appears to be in better condition than Megatron was after the Space Bridge explosion, since he's aware of his surroundings and he can communicate.

PrymeStriker, sir, could at least try to find some other videos other than MLP? At least in the major TF topics? Please? If it's in the General and Non-TF boards by all means post away!

Anyhow, how is there supposed to be a "new" Prime if Optimus is the last of them.

datguy86 wrote:Hmmm.. I would like to point out that the Beast Hunters Prime voyager toy has a very Smokescreen-ish face on it.

Holy smokes... umm after looking at the packaging art for the face, I have to say you have made a very good point. Would be strange if Smokescreen pulls a movie Jetfire and sacrifices himself to be parts for Optimus.

datguy86 wrote:Hmmm.. I would like to point out that the Beast Hunters Prime voyager toy has a very Smokescreen-ish face on it.

Really.......let me take a look at him and.....OMG CANNOT UNSEE!!!!!!!!

Manterax Prime wrote:Anyhow, how is there supposed to be a "new" Prime if Optimus is the last of them.

He could pass the rank and the Matrix onto the person he deems worthy of being the next Prime. Why Jack was previously considered an "Honorary Prime" back at the start of season 2.

Don't forget, Optimus wasn't a Prime back when he was Orion Pax. He succeeded Sentinel Zeta Prime just like the next Prime (when and if there is one) will succeed him, whoever that may be.

Manterax Prime wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Hmmm.. I would like to point out that the Beast Hunters Prime voyager toy has a very Smokescreen-ish face on it.

Really.......let me take a look at him and.....OMG CANNOT UNSEE!!!!!!!!

That is pretty much what I did too. Its like Cyberverse Beast Hunters Bulkhead, once you see the smiley face it never goes away.

I don't see it.

what a joke. the new prime look has been known for like 4 or 5 months. why not show him in the trailer. also the children are still in it so yey......

I'll bet you my left arm this will be the story of the "new Prime."

Optimus passes the Matrix to Ultra Magnus.
Ultra Magnus, now a Prime, uses the Forge to repair Optimus.
Magnus gives the Matrix back to Optimus.
Optimus kicks ass and sells toys.


The End.

griftimus prime wrote:the new prime look has been known for like 4 or 5 months. why not show him in the trailer.

I don't know, because they don't want to spoil the whole season?

Colour me DEFINITELY interested.
The trailer has some good editing, especially with the different human-bot pairings scattered.
Here's waiting for the 23rd (as I won't be able to see it on the 22nd myself)!

KnightStrike wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Hmmm.. I would like to point out that the Beast Hunters Prime voyager toy has a very Smokescreen-ish face on it.

Holy smokes... umm after looking at the packaging art for the face, I have to say you have made a very good point. Would be strange if Smokescreen pulls a movie Jetfire and sacrifices himself to be parts for Optimus.

I'm afraid it would be more the other way around, with Smokescreen wearing OP's corpse as necro-armor in order to instill fear in the Decepticons. OP doesn't seem the type to go for the monster truck design, after all. Smokescreen? He'd be all over it.

PrymeStriker wrote:


I don't see it.

It's more to do with the length of the face and the smaller width of the chin. The Beast Hunters Prime seems to have a longer face than his predecessor, and a thinner chin - attributes more in line with Smokescreen. You have to ignore the respective "helmets" of each 'bot. It doesn't hurt the shape of Beast Hunters Prime looks younger and "softer" to me than that of Prime Prime - more attributes of Smokescreen.

Plus, if you take away the red parts of Smokescreen's headcrest and leave the white "Prime" part and add Prime's ear antennas.......looks damn near identical and CAN"T BE UNSEEN ONCE YOU DO IT!

Plus, who's to say Optimus won't put Smokescreen in charge so he can go all out murder-rage on Megs and Predaking?

I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?