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Colour me DEFINITELY interested.
The trailer has some good editing, especially with the different human-bot pairings scattered.
Here's waiting for the 23rd (as I won't be able to see it on the 22nd myself)!

KnightStrike wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Hmmm.. I would like to point out that the Beast Hunters Prime voyager toy has a very Smokescreen-ish face on it.

Holy smokes... umm after looking at the packaging art for the face, I have to say you have made a very good point. Would be strange if Smokescreen pulls a movie Jetfire and sacrifices himself to be parts for Optimus.

I'm afraid it would be more the other way around, with Smokescreen wearing OP's corpse as necro-armor in order to instill fear in the Decepticons. OP doesn't seem the type to go for the monster truck design, after all. Smokescreen? He'd be all over it.

PrymeStriker wrote:


I don't see it.

It's more to do with the length of the face and the smaller width of the chin. The Beast Hunters Prime seems to have a longer face than his predecessor, and a thinner chin - attributes more in line with Smokescreen. You have to ignore the respective "helmets" of each 'bot. It doesn't hurt the shape of Beast Hunters Prime looks younger and "softer" to me than that of Prime Prime - more attributes of Smokescreen.

Plus, if you take away the red parts of Smokescreen's headcrest and leave the white "Prime" part and add Prime's ear antennas.......looks damn near identical and CAN"T BE UNSEEN ONCE YOU DO IT!

Plus, who's to say Optimus won't put Smokescreen in charge so he can go all out murder-rage on Megs and Predaking?

I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?

Manterax Prime wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?

Replace "nose" with " little stub between the eyes".

This trailer gives me high hopes for Beast Hunters! In one word: EPIC! The serious tone continues and the stakes are even higher than before. I also really like how the 'Bots are separated and will have to work to come together. However, I do hope they come together sooner rather than later since there's only 13 episodes.

I agree with most of you as well that they seem to be strongly hinting at more Autobots joining with Team Prime. I really hope this is true and that (again) this happens sooner rather than later.

I guess my biggest fear is that everything will be rushed this season and good plot points will not be very developed because of the brevity of the season. It feels like they're introducing a lot and have promised a lot but I don't know how feasible that is in 13 episodes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for the best.

I think its pretty obvious that Optimus will recover. But as for the whole Smokescreen as leader idea, I don't think so.
Seems more likely to me that Magnus will take over part time as prime. Why else would we be getting two Magnus with the forge instead of his own hammer? And BH Optimus Prime does have a faceplate. It's the toy that doesn't.

"Prime you can't die"

Seriously, this season is going to be awesome!

What if Smokescreen becomes Ultra Magnus? I've seen crazier things, and he's similar colours... (also is a nod to g1 magnus' 'inner robot' being white)

NovaSentinel wrote:What if Smokescreen becomes Ultra Magnus? I've seen crazier things, and he's similar colours... (also is a nod to g1 magnus' 'inner robot' being white)

Except that Ultra Magnus is somebody else entirely. Nice thought though.

At last! A call, a cry of distress! This could be a sign that leads us to the Holy Grail! Brave, brave Concord, you shall not have died in vain!
Uh, I'm-I'm not quite dead, sir.
...Well, you shall not have been mortally wounded in vain!
I-I think I, I could pull through, sir.
Oh, I see.
Actually, I think I'm alright to come with you--
No no, sweet Concord, stay here. I will send help as soon as I've accomplished a daring and heroic rescue in my own particular... *sigh*
...Idiom, sir?
Idiom!
No, I feel fine, actually--
Farewell, sweet Concord!
Alright, then. I'll just stay here, then, shall I, sir? ...yeah.

Sabrblade wrote:At last! A call, a cry of distress! This could be a sign that leads us to the Holy Grail! Brave, brave Concord, you shall not have died in vain!
Uh, I'm-I'm not quite dead, sir.
...Well, you shall not have been mortally wounded in vain!
I-I think I, I could pull through, sir.
Oh, I see.
Actually, I think I'm alright to come with you--
No no, sweet Concord, stay here. I will send help as soon as I've accomplished a daring and heroic rescue in my own particular... *sigh*
...Idiom, sir?
Idiom!
No, I feel find, actually--
Farewell, sweet Concord!
Alright, then. I'll just stay here, then, shall I, sir? ...yeah.

Okay, you have me rolling with laughter now over the mental image of that one

ooo, now that is an interesting thought

Wow this looks pretty intense... I can't wait for new episodes!

if there will be a new prime there will be a new reason to hate habro

Well damn, it has me thinking that Optimus is going to die. Without any 1-up mushrooms. I know that's false, and that he is going to come back, but... gah, the suspense.

With the power of the matrix do those that bond with it ever really "die"?

njb902 wrote:With the power of the matrix do those that bond with it ever really "die"?

Not precisely. Think of it like Luke Skywalker being visited by the ghosts of Christmas Past, Present, and Future Obi-wan Kenobi, Yoda, and his daddy Anakin Skywalker.

Mindmaster wrote:

njb902 wrote:With the power of the matrix do those that bond with it ever really "die"?

Not precisely. Think of it like Luke Skywalker being visited by the ghosts of Christmas Past, Present, and Future Obi-wan Kenobi, Yoda, and his daddy Anakin Skywalker.

Sorry that was a rhetorical question.

Sabrblade wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?

Replace "nose" with " little stub between the eyes".

Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........then again, I may be reading too far into it.

Manterax Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:I can see why you would think so because of the chin, but the nose is much bulkier, the mouth is closer to the nose, and the eyes are farther apart in comparison to Smokescreen.

Nose? What nose? None of the autobots have a nose! Take their helmets off they all look like Lord Voldemort! What are you going on about?

Replace "nose" with " little stub between the eyes".

Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........then again, I may be reading too far into it.

The lack of a closed faceplate doesn't help any.

Manterax Prime wrote:Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........

Not quite. Wheeljack also has a stub similarly to Smokescreen.



In fact, his is blockier than Smokescreen's, which is closer to BH Prime.

Crap, I've given you ideas.

Ok, 3 things that point to Smokescreen being BH Optimus Prime

1. Damn near identical faces

2. Stub between the eyes. Optimus didn't have one.

3. This is going by the toys. Smokescreen's vehicle mode with quill armor has 4 spikes total in front, 2 on each side of the grill. BH Prime's vehicle mode has 4 spikes total in front, 2 on each side of the grill.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:Well, I took that into account, compared face between BH Prime, FE Prime and Smokescreen and the only one w/ a stub between the eyes that could possibly end up on BH Prime is SMOKESCREEN......OMG..........

Not quite. Wheeljack also has a stub similarly to Smokescreen.



In fact, his is blockier than Smokescreen's, which is closer to BH Prime.

Crap, I've given you ideas.

Ok, point. However, Wheeljack's "nose" angles up to his eyebrows forming an inverted trapezoid, wheres the "noses" of Smokescreen and BH Prime are square in shape.