Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

Kiyza wrote:

SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Shot in the frickin dark, but what about Sentinel? Could just be a copy Megatron created or whatever (and Optimus, being a Prime, would realize this) Sort of out there but I wouldn't completely discount it.

Sentinel Prime is long dead in this continuity. If he were to show up, all of the Autobots would immediately suspect that he was an imposter.

Yeah, true. Also another one, maybe it's a Sideburn-esque deal from the Animated comics? Drone that shows a lot of sentience but actually created by the Decepticons to spy on the Autobots?

i hope its ultramagnus and cyclonus

Sabrblade wrote:

Hypershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree

It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.

o, i can understand te optimus bit. but how do u know it's not ironhide? -.-

Because when Hasbro unveiled the Ironhide toy prototype, production of season 2 was already well underway and they said they had no plans for Ironhide to appear in the show at this time.

Yes, "At this time." And when did we see the prototype for that toy? Wasn't that at Botcon 2011? And that was in June of last year. This is merely Episode #6. Changes can be made over time, and it's possible that Episode 6 wasn't thought of yet. We can't be so matter of fact until we see some sort of visual preview. Right now we are in the Speculation Stage.

Keep in mind what we've seen at Toy Fair this year is not a prototype.

Gyrotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hypershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree

It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.

o, i can understand te optimus bit. but how do u know it's not ironhide? -.-

Because when Hasbro unveiled the Ironhide toy prototype, production of season 2 was already well underway and they said they had no plans for Ironhide to appear in the show at this time.

Yes, "At this time." And when did we see the prototype for that toy? Wasn't that at Botcon 2011? And that was in June of last year. This is merely Episode #6. Changes can be made over time, and it's possible that Episode 6 wasn't thought of yet. We can't be so matter of fact until we see some sort of visual preview. Right now we are in the Speculation Stage.

Keep in mind what we've seen at Toy Fair this year is not a prototype.

While i do agree with that pov, sabrblade is kind of right, shows like that take a loooooong time to plot and animate, so they couldnt really work it in last second. HOWEVER, sabrblade, that they still had five to ten episodes left to air, so he could have meant that he wasnt going to be in them. Or, y'know, he could just be lying because of spoilers. Lotta shows did/do that, if anyone was a Lost fan like i am you know what im talking about

Plus, I do think that they would have at least collaborated with the show on some level, so they would have known about the ironhide toy before we did. Just because Botcon 2011 was when the prototypes were shown doesnt mean that that was the first time any of the Prime staff had seen it

Well, we know there is a HotShot toy, so he's a possibility.

We know they has said there will be dinobots and combiners... so Grimlock a possibility.

We know ironhide was slated for the show, and was changed to Bulkhead. We know they said Ironhide will not be in the show some time ago. Ironhide has a toy. But, Ironhide is unlikely to be an 'unstable rogue bot'.

Grimlock is likely to be an 'unstable rogue bot', and if any connection to WFC/FoC - he is legendary, too.

My money is on Grimlock.

Ironhide makes the most sense to me, and show makers lie all the time, so that's where my vote goes.

I'd be happy with Grimlock, don't get me wrong.

My main concern is that this episode sounds an awful lot like Wheeljack's episode from Season 1. I hope this doesn't become a once a season thing.

Either way, I just want to see more characters show up. I know it costs more money with CG shows to add new characters, and a smaller cast allows for more character development, but come on! They already have a Wheeljack model in the system, lets get that guy back on earth!

At0mic Cav3man wrote:Ironhide makes the most sense to me, and show makers lie all the time, so that's where my vote goes.

I'd be happy with Grimlock, don't get me wrong.

My main concern is that this episode sounds an awful lot like Wheeljack's episode from Season 1. I hope this doesn't become a once a season thing.

Either way, I just want to see more characters show up. I know it costs more money with CG shows to add new characters, and a smaller cast allows for more character development, but come on! They already have a Wheeljack model in the system, lets get that guy back on earth!

Luv you too, At0mic Cav3man

Knowing that the writers "borrow" ideas from any continuities they come across (aside from their own "you throw something up in the air on Cybertron, it sure as hell lands on Earth"-mentality) it can be anything from Ultra Magnus to Sky-bite

Hypershock wrote:

At0mic Cav3man wrote:Ironhide makes the most sense to me, and show makers lie all the time, so that's where my vote goes.

I'd be happy with Grimlock, don't get me wrong.

My main concern is that this episode sounds an awful lot like Wheeljack's episode from Season 1. I hope this doesn't become a once a season thing.

Either way, I just want to see more characters show up. I know it costs more money with CG shows to add new characters, and a smaller cast allows for more character development, but come on! They already have a Wheeljack model in the system, lets get that guy back on earth!

Luv you too, At0mic Cav3man

*Chest thump, Peace Sign*

Much love indeed, my friend.