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Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:17 pm**

Hi guys, I haven't posted in ages, just swinging by to say that this finale kicked ass.

I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:24 pm**

Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.

According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:28 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.
According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

So does that mean that the ever-infamous "when we kill a character, it stays dead" mantra is out the window? Or am I just stupid?

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:30 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.
According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

So does that mean that the ever-infamous "when we kill a character, it stays dead" mantra is out the window? Or am I just stupid?

Dude, it's Optimus Prime, he gets better.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:34 pm**

Stormwolf wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.
According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

So does that mean that the ever-infamous "when we kill a character, it stays dead" mantra is out the window? Or am I just stupid?

Dude, it's Optimus Prime, he gets better.

You never know. They might pull an original movie and have Hot Rod Shot take over as boss monkey.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:38 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.
According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

So does that mean that the ever-infamous "when we kill a character, it stays dead" mantra is out the window? Or am I just stupid?

Dude, it's Optimus Prime, he gets better.

You never know. They might pull an original movie and have Hot Rod Shot take over as boss monkey.

They wouldn't do that because of the awesome that is Peter Cullen.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:46 pm**

El Duque wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:I only have one question now. Prime's status. Is he dead?

We won't know until next season, but there's probably a 99% chance he's alive.

My own WAG? The last shot, when it looks like he's destroying the Ground/Space Bridge with the Star Saber? He's actually cutting off his arm, then jumping through.

Sabrblade wrote:
Heckfire wrote:So, let's get off this ridiculous subject and get back to what really matters: bitching about the toys we aren't getting in the United States.
Who else wants a Jet Vehicon General after seeing this episode?

Me!!!

Not even waiting for HasTak; got a mook jet and some Bare-Metal chrome on order.

Also, did anyone else think of The Black Knight from Monty Python when Prime took Meg's arm? :lol:

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:54 pm**

Stormwolf wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.
According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

So does that mean that the ever-infamous "when we kill a character, it stays dead" mantra is out the window? Or am I just stupid?

Dude, it's Optimus Prime, he gets better.

You never know. They might pull an original movie and have Hot Rod Shot take over as boss monkey.

They wouldn't do that because of the awesome that is Peter Cullen.

Yeah, and Megatron survived ground zero of a space bridge explosion. Optimus is likely just mortally wounded but not quite dead yet.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:53 pm**

Skyfire77 wrote:
El Duque wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:I only have one question now. Prime's status. Is he dead?

We won't know until next season, but there's probably a 99% chance he's alive.

My own WAG? The last shot, when it looks like he's destroying the Ground/Space Bridge with the Star Saber? He's actually cutting off his arm, then jumping through.

How can he jump through when the ground/space bridge closed after Ratchet went through?

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:03 pm**

Manterax Prime wrote:
Skyfire77 wrote:
El Duque wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:I only have one question now. Prime's status. Is he dead?

We won't know until next season, but there's probably a 99% chance he's alive.

My own WAG? The last shot, when it looks like he's destroying the Ground/Space Bridge with the Star Saber? He's actually cutting off his arm, then jumping through.

How can he jump through when the ground/space bridge closed after Ratchet went through?

Well he was standing right next to the controls ... It wouldn't have been hard to turn it back on, then bolt through.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:05 pm**

True....

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:03 pm**

Skyfire77 wrote:The last shot, when it looks like he's destroying the Ground/Space Bridge with the Star Saber? He's actually cutting off his arm, then jumping through.[/spoiler]

Well, he was destroying the computer, not the space bridge.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:46 pm**

i hope wheeljack is steel alive
starscream now that how wreck a wrecker

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:31 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:I wonder what the status quo is going to be in season 2 though.
According to series writer Steven Melching, there will be no status quo in season 3.

So does that mean that the ever-infamous "when we kill a character, it stays dead" mantra is out the window? Or am I just stupid?

Dude, it's Optimus Prime, he gets better.

You never know. They might pull an original movie and have Hot Rod Shot take over as boss monkey.

Still though, after the original movie, he still got better. It just took some time, being a zombie, and being in a massive continuity error to get better for him.
Still though, in my humble opinion, he did have the Star Saber, which is extremely powerful and can do some strange things. Emergency force field anyone?

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:07 pm**

Was I the only one wondering what the heck the human military was doing while the Decepticons invaded Nevada? The only guy they ever seem to have to battle these things is Fowler. I know Optimus said that the human military wouldn't be able to match the decepticons, but it seems to me that Fowler, with one helicopter mind you, was able to hold is own against the entire Decepticon air fleet for a solid while.

I laughed while watching this with my 10 year old son. This episode was just filled with inconsistencies
Megatron could have just killed the Autobots, he did not hesitate with Dreadwing
Prime escaped being surrounded by a dozen Decepticons without a shot being fired from one
Prime used his blade for 10 seconds before Megatron even moved towards him
When Megatron does attack he forgot to drink his RedBull (slow)
Prime is not hurt despite taking a direct hit from the explosion

Prime could have used his cool blue wave to attack the Decepticon ship/fortress
Fowler takes off in a Huey without being hit despite 3 dozen Decepticons firing at them
Fowler singled handedly held off an alien army in a Huey helicopter ( a Huey )
The former unstoppable Insecticons were blowing up like fireworks from one shot

I could go on but its a kid show.... This should not be in the same continuity as WFC, FOC ....

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:19 pm**

padfoo wrote:
Was I the only one wondering what the heck the human military was doing while the Decepticons invaded Nevada? The only guy they ever seem to have to battle these things is Fowler. I know Optimus said that the human military wouldn't be able to match the decepticons, but it seems to me that Fowler, with one helicopter mind you, was able to hold is own against the entire Decepticon air fleet for a solid while.

I laughed while watching this with my 10 year old son. This episode was just filled with inconsistencies
Megatron could have just killed the Autobots, he did not hesitate with Dreadwing
Prime escaped being surrounded by a dozen Decepticons without a shot being fired from one
Prime used his blade for 10 seconds before Megatron even moved towards him
When Megatron does attack he forgot to drink his RedBull (slow)
Prime is not hurt despite taking a direct hit from the explosion

Prime could have used his cool blue wave to attack the Decepticon ship/fortress
Fowler takes off in a Huey without being hit despite 3 dozen Decepticons firing at them
Fowler singled handedly held off an alien army in a Huey helicopter ( a Huey )
The former unstoppable Insecticons were blowing up like fireworks from one shot

I could go on but its a kid show.... This should not be in the same continuity as WFC, FOC ....

Megatrons crowning victory as inconsistant. LOL you are not looking at the big picture. Megs had this planed the second he heard about the kids. Why kill Prime when he can bran him and his cause as creatures worst then Nazi. By letting Prime take his arm he Megatron is a hero that tried to stop prime. And by letting Prime destroy the Omega lock he has a reason to conquer the stars.
Recap, Megs is a hero, Prime is hitler, autobots war criminals, and earth is spoil of wars.
Also megatron used a weaker setting Vehicons so that humans are seen as a threat. This will unit both Cons, Volictrons and Junkions to support Megatrons war.

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:22 pm**

padfoo wrote:Megatron could have just killed the Autobots, he did not hesitate with Dreadwing

It's a classic villain trait to have the heroes bear witness to the world they have come to call home be completely refit and have all that they have fought to protect be eradicated right before their eyes.

padfoo wrote:Prime escaped being surrounded by a dozen Decepticons without a shot being fired from one

He caught them off guard. Plus they were Vehicons. Not exactly the greatest of soldiers (unlike the silver ones we see later).

padfoo wrote:Prime used his blade for 10 seconds before Megatron even moved towards him

Megs didn't expect such a retaliation so soon, since he was getting full of himself when he started mechaforming Earth.

padfoo wrote:When Megatron does attack he forgot to drink his RedBull (slow)

It's a magic sword, you don't have to explain it.

padfoo wrote:Prime is not hurt despite taking a direct hit from the explosion

Cuz he's Optimus Prime, nuff said. :lol:

padfoo wrote:Prime could have used his cool blue wave to attack the Decepticon ship/fortress

He tried, remember? There were too many enemy troops in the way of his blast to make a hit. No matter how many they destroyed, more just kept coming.

padfoo wrote:Fowler takes off in a Huey without being hit despite 3 dozen Decepticons firing at them

Fowler has the power of plot convenience awesome.

padfoo wrote:Fowler singled handedly held off an alien army in a Huey helicopter ( a Huey )

Like I said, he's just that convenient aweosome.

padfoo wrote:The former unstoppable Insecticons were blowing up like fireworks from one shot

We've seen that happen plenty of times before. It's called Conservation of Ninjitsu.

padfoo wrote:I could go on but its a kid show.... This should not be in the same continuity as WFC, FOC ....

Too late, too bad, so sad, I'm glad.

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:28 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:
padfoo wrote:Megatron could have just killed the Autobots, he did not hesitate with Dreadwing
It's a classic villain trait to have the heroes bear witness to the world they have come to call home be completely refit and have all that they have fought to protect be eradicated right before their eyes.He could have killed these but more would have stood up. This act has killed the autobot movement.

padfoo wrote:Prime escaped being surrounded by a dozen Decepticons without a shot being fired from one
He caught them off guard. Plus they were Vehicons. Not exactly the greatest of soldiers (unlike the silver ones we see later). Prime was let to escape. If megs had wanted to keep the bots from attacking there are stasis cuffs.

padfoo wrote:Prime used his blade for 10 seconds before Megatron even moved towards him
Megs didn't expect such a retaliation so soon, since he was getting full of himself when he started mechaforming Earth.

padfoo wrote:When Megatron does attack he forgot to drink his RedBull (slow)
It's a magic sword, you don't have to explain it. Megs needed to rid himself of his arm, also he needed to be a maryter.

padfoo wrote:Prime is not hurt despite taking a direct hit from the explosion
Cuz he's Optimus Prime, nuff said.

padfoo wrote:Prime could have used his cool blue wave to attack the Decepticon ship/fortress
He tried, remember? There were too many enemy troops in the way of his blast to make a hit. No matter how many they destroyed, more just kept coming.true

padfoo wrote:Fowler takes off in a Huey without being hit despite 3 dozen Decepticons firing at them
Fowler has the power of plot convenience awesome. Also megs had lots of numbers and less power.

padfoo wrote:Fowler singled handedly held off an alien army in a Huey helicopter ( a Huey )
Like I said, he's just that convenient aweosome.

padfoo wrote:The former unstoppable Insecticons were blowing up like fireworks from one shot
We've seen that happen plenty of times before. It's called Conservation of Ninjitsu.

padfoo wrote:I could go on but its a kid show.... This should not be in the same continuity as WFC, FOC ....
Too late, too bad, so sad, I'm glad.

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:55 pm**

I'm gonna have to side with padfoo on this one. It tottaly makes it lame that we are meant to suspend our belief to such a great extent that everything always works in favour of the good guys. I know, you can't have a human die brutally in a show aimed at kids, but there have got to be ways around doing the scene, like have fowler not get this involved, and maybe have some no name humans go against the Cons, that way when they "die" there isn't much heartache.

From watching Wolverine and the X-men, which is also a kids show even if there are tons of adults, maybe even more than TF fans, who watch it, that show has much less of the need to suspend belief. I like TF Prime, but I agree with the fact that it often makes things waaayy to exagerated. Even kids would eventually stop caring for the good guys when they are almost always alright.

A great example of a time when the intensity of the action was completely in line with how things should turn out is when Megatron and Prime fight by the erupting Volcano. The entire scene, start to finish, was fine with me, and even the way Prime escaped wasn't so unbelievable... More of that, please. I'm tired of seeing Insecticons die so quickly after they began as being, individually, a foe for Megatron himself.

Posted: **Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:31 pm**

padfoo wrote:
Was I the only one wondering what the heck the human military was doing while the Decepticons invaded Nevada? The only guy they ever seem to have to battle these things is Fowler. I know Optimus said that the human military wouldn't be able to match the decepticons, but it seems to me that Fowler, with one helicopter mind you, was able to hold is own against the entire Decepticon air fleet for a solid while.

I laughed while watching this with my 10 year old son. This episode was just filled with inconsistencies
Megatron could have just killed the Autobots, he did not hesitate with Dreadwing
Prime escaped being surrounded by a dozen Decepticons without a shot being fired from one
Prime used his blade for 10 seconds before Megatron even moved towards him
When Megatron does attack he forgot to drink his RedBull (slow)
Prime is not hurt despite taking a direct hit from the explosion

Prime could have used his cool blue wave to attack the Decepticon ship/fortress
Fowler takes off in a Huey without being hit despite 3 dozen Decepticons firing at them
Fowler singled handedly held off an alien army in a Huey helicopter ( a Huey )
The former unstoppable Insecticons were blowing up like fireworks from one shot

I could go on but its a kid show.... This should not be in the same continuity as WFC, FOC ....

Ya it was great huh fowler out does every con but jacky boy gets shot down in a very highly maneuverable cybertronian space ship/star fighter what ever you wanna call it lol

Posted: **Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:33 pm**

You guys are hilarious!

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:34 pm**

I haven't been here for a while so I don't know...

WHEN DOES SEASON 3 PREMIERE???

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:47 pm**

prowl123 wrote:I haven't been here for a while so I don't know...

WHEN DOES SEASON 3 PREMIERE???

We don't know.

A presentation from Hasbro representatives in Peru says Fall 2013. :-|

Posted: **Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:05 am**

Has anyone else brought up the fact that Arachnid (airachnid) was in a stasis pod in the relic storage bays? We don't know if she was able to escape stasis...this may put yet another key figure BACK into play ...effectively giving Megatron more trouble.

How did Megatron know the location to their base? Simple. Psychic Cortical Patch with Smokescreen. Nuf Said.

I think Ratchet walking out of the Space bridge was another thing that didn't sit well with me, why would he walk, he needs to be in disguise. I have only one thing to draw from not hearing his transformation sequence before exiting the ground bridge.

That he is bridging to another location, a separate fallout shelter of sorts, or an emergency base of operations. Somewhere, that if he bridged in, he would not have to be in vehicle mode.

Prime's arm...Yeah..that could just be that. Megatron looses an arm, so does prime, it's happened before.

Just because his arm is in the rubble does not mean he is...and I have this bad feeling about seeing a MEGATRON with Optimus' arm.

These are kinda my thoughts on some of the stuff that was going on.

Posted: **Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:45 am**

felinafullstop wrote:How did Megatron know the location to their base? Simple. Psychic Cortical Patch with Smokescreen. Nuf Said.

That, and the Decepticons have been locating the base through the residence of the children. Both factored in to finding it's approximate location.

And it's a cortical psychic patch.

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