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Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:25 am
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:I'm saying that she shouldn't have been as optimistic as she was about what the Decepticons are doing with her planet.
Optimistic? There was a sense of hesitance, confusion, and subtle worry in her tone. She asked out of bewilderment and fearful concern.

Listen to her dialogue again. Her delivery was anything but cheerful.

She just didn't ask the question in one of those cliche, over-the-top, cartoony, "PANIC PANIC WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" spats that children's entertainment has so accustomed us to in situations like these. Sometimes, mere concern is all that's needed.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:28 am
by PrymeStriker
njb902 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And, all that they probably told her about the Omega Lock was that it could revive Cybertron, implying that it heals dying planets. To see Optimus's frantic reaction to a "planet-healing machine" being used on Earth would naturally beg the question.


Look, I'm not saying Miko should've already known that the Omega Lock would destroy all of Earth's indigenous life. I'm saying that she shouldn't have been as optimistic as she was about what the Decepticons are doing with her planet.

njb902 wrote:Right because a frightened child never acts oddly :roll:


You're missing my point. Aside from what the character is feeling, the writers are using Miko to have the audience understand what's going on.


She wasn't optimistic at all, she is a frightened child trying to make sense of a situation where she has zero control.


She said that if the Omega Lock could restore Cybertron that it should do the same for Earth. Whether this was right or not, she was hoping this was the case. While she was probably still frightened, she came off to me as being optimistic, to whatever little or big degree.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:32 am
by njb902
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And, all that they probably told her about the Omega Lock was that it could revive Cybertron, implying that it heals dying planets. To see Optimus's frantic reaction to a "planet-healing machine" being used on Earth would naturally beg the question.


Look, I'm not saying Miko should've already known that the Omega Lock would destroy all of Earth's indigenous life. I'm saying that she shouldn't have been as optimistic as she was about what the Decepticons are doing with her planet.

njb902 wrote:Right because a frightened child never acts oddly :roll:


You're missing my point. Aside from what the character is feeling, the writers are using Miko to have the audience understand what's going on.


She wasn't optimistic at all, she is a frightened child trying to make sense of a situation where she has zero control.


She said that if the Omega Lock could restore Cybertron that it should do the same for Earth. Whether this was right or not, she was hoping this was the case. Whilst she was probably still frightened, she came off to me as being optimistic, to whatever little or big degree.


:roll:

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:34 am
by PrymeStriker
njb902 wrote: :roll:


>:oP

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:36 am
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:She said that if the Omega Lock could restore Cybertron that it should do the same for Earth. Whether this was right or not, she was hoping this was the case. Whilst she was probably still frightened, she came off to me as being optimistic, to whatever little or big degree.
Her exact words were, "If the Omega Lock can restore Cybertron, it'll do the same to Earth... right?"

The "right" is the key here. She's asking for reassurance that everything will be alright, which is what any frightened person would ask for in such a situation.

And you are completely ignoring her facial expressions and body movements, which show obvious signs of fear and uncertainty.

Look, I'm not all that fond of Miko either, but I don't bash her for the sake of bashing her, which is what this very much feels like.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:43 am
by PrymeStriker
Sabrblade wrote:
Look, I'm not all that fond of Miko either, but I don't bash her for the sake of bashing her, which is what this very much feels like.


I'm not bashing her just for the hell of it. I hate it when any character does this. I understand why it's done, from a writer's viewpoint, but it always makes me feel like the character is asking a stupid question (scared or not).

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:48 am
by njb902
Which is something you would expect a frightened child to do.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:54 am
by PrymeStriker
njb902 wrote:Which is something you would expect a frightened child to do


I still hate it, you can't change that. >:oP

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:09 am
by griftimus prime
this show does not have the balls big enough to let megatron win this. what a waste of a finale.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:15 am
by PrymeStriker
griftimus prime wrote:this show does not have the balls big enough to let megatron win this. what a waste of a finale.


But he does. One of the writers already told us that.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:27 am
by noctorro
Is it me or is this show going really slow?

So season 2 hasn't ended yet?

When is it time to start torrenting the series? Will there be a season 3?

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:39 am
by PrymeStriker
noctorro wrote:Is it me or is this show going really slow?

So season 2 hasn't ended yet?


No. This is the last episode of season 2. Last season ended in October. This one ends in early November. But we had a long summer break.


When is it time to start torrenting the series? Will there be a season 3?


Season 3 is coming some time in 2013. This time with the sub-title "Beast Hunters" and 13 or 16 episodes instead of 26 like the first two seasons.

Prime is supposed to last until 2015. Whether that's the toyline or show is up for debate right now. Jeffrey Combs hinted at a fourth season, too.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:52 am
by noctorro
thanks for the info!

It was on dutch television, saturday morning 07:00 or something like that. Horrible dutch voices (Y U NO use subtitles? oh yes, dutch kids can't read dutch eventhough they can speak english)

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:34 am
by Henry921
I'm so very relieved to see the Steves are still alive. I was concerned the Spark Extractor got them all and we'd lose the lovably tragic minions in Season 3.

Truly, we should be glad there are any left given this season's penchant for thoughtlessly killing Decepticon fan favorites...

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:06 am
by Sagitta
Miko stealing the spotlight? Would think the Cyberforming Omega-lock would warrant the greater attention.

Or is that just a plot device? :grin:

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:46 am
by LiverMatrix
Is it just me that thinks the Omega Lock appears to be riffing on the Key to Vector Sigma with the whole 'changing Earth to its new Technological Matrix and destroying indigenous life' thing?

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:51 am
by PrymeStriker
Henry921 wrote:I'm so very relieved to see the Steves are still alive. I was concerned the Spark Extractor got them all and we'd lose the lovably tragic minions in Season 3.


Yet, Megatron asked for reinforcements after those events, and we saw some Vehicons hanging around Starscream right after he does.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:51 am
by Mindmaster
Key to Vector Sigma, anyone?

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:56 am
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Look, I'm not all that fond of Miko either, but I don't bash her for the sake of bashing her, which is what this very much feels like.


I'm not bashing her just for the hell of it. I hate it when any character does this. I understand why it's done, from a writer's viewpoint, but it always makes me feel like the character is asking a stupid question (scared or not).
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:Which is something you would expect a frightened child to do


I still hate it, you can't change that. >:oP
Her question was perfectly valid as it provided the necessary exposition to the audience. Any one of the kids could have asked it any would have gotten the same effect.

If I were in one of those canisters, I would have asked the same question. Though I might have rephrased it a bit (like, "If the Omega Lock is used on Earth, what's gonna happen to it?" or something), but I'd darn well want to know what that madman was going to do to my homeworld. Especially if he went to such trouble to hunt me down, capture me, bring me to another world, and threaten to kill me as part of a ransom. I would be scared and fearful for myself and for my home.


LiverMatrix wrote:Is it just me that thinks the Omega Lock appears to be riffing on the Key to Vector Sigma with the whole 'changing Earth to its new Technological Matrix and destroying indigenous life' thing?
It also bears a striking resemblance to Project: Genesis from the Star Trek movies, only a Cybertronian equivalent that uses mechanical life instead of organic life. ;)

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:25 am
by PrymeStriker
Mindmaster wrote:Key to Vector Sigma, anyone?


It certainly seems to have the same effects as the G1 Key to Vector Sigma. ;)

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:29 am
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Key to Vector Sigma, anyone?


It certainly seems to have the same effects as the G1 Key to Vector Sigma. ;)
And the Genesis Project from the Star Trek movies.


Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:33 am
by proximus
"...in favour of its new matrix" a quote directly from Star Trek II. Definitely an homage to the the effecs of the genesis device. Perhaps we'll see some rebirth as we did with Spock as result. Maybe not.

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:57 pm
by El Duque
Just a friendly reminder that the Hub's Transformers Prime marathon starts this afternoon at 5:30 PM ET. Starting from beginning every episode of Transformers Prime will be aired leading up to tomorrow evening's Season 2 finale, "Darkest Hour". We also have a new promo image from the finale courtesy of the official Transformers facebook page. Check it out below.

Transformers Prime is taking over The Hub TV Network for 26 hours beginning today at 5:30pm ET, leading up to the season finale Friday at 7pm ET! Check out this exclusive shot from the finale, and get ready to watch every episode of Transformers Prime from the beginning!


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Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:18 pm
by PrymeStriker
Gee...the Autobots are cornered. Didn't see that one coming. >:oP


Nonetheless, the last time I was excited about a season finale at all was Season 3 of Animated. :KREMZEEK:

Re: New Transformers Prime Marathon and Season 2 Finale Trailer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:30 pm
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:Nonetheless, the last time I was excited about a season finale at all was Season 3 of Animated. :KREMZEEK:
The last time I was excited about a season finale was the last season finale we got for a TF cartoon. ;)