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I'm sure all entities involved in the production of the films are responsible for the sub-par quality of the recent Transformers movies. I will, however, make honorable mentions of Steve Jablonsky on a beautiful score and the special effects teams for top notch CGI. Unfortunately, pretty pictures and sounds a good film does not make.

As one a page back said... He has a problem with energon? I liked energon! The show and toys were great fun to me!
On topic, I tink that Bay and Hasbro are both culprits here, at least to those of you who DON'T like the films. I for one, Love ALL 3 Films. I just have a few MINOR Complaints, mainly in the character's just up and dissapearing department, otherwise, the films are great fun, and are ment for your intertainment! If you paid to go see the film, just remember this:
If you paid to see it, Your just like the rest of us.

If you didn't like what you saw, Jus thank Primus it wasn't as bad as The Last Airbender, And Dragonball Evolution. the problems with BOTH those movies is, they tried to recreate complex stories, and failed miserably. Transformers, however, has been re-invented countless times, and That's what gives it the ability to be re-invented again, only for the big screen! New universe, familiar faces, same names, Lots of $$$.

BeastProwl wrote:As one a page back said... He has a problem with energon? I liked energon! The show and toys were great fun to me!
On topic, I tink that Bay and Hasbro are both culprits here, at least to those of you who DON'T like the films. I for one, Love ALL 3 Films. I just have a few MINOR Complaints, mainly in the character's just up and dissapearing department, otherwise, the films are great fun, and are ment for your intertainment! If you paid to go see the film, just remember this:
If you paid to see it, Your just like the rest of us.

If you didn't like what you saw, Jus thank Primus it wasn't as bad as The Last Airbender, And Dragonball Evolution. the problems with BOTH those movies is, they tried to recreate complex stories, and failed miserably. Transformers, however, has been re-invented countless times, and That's what gives it the ability to be re-invented again, only for the big screen! New universe, familiar faces, same names, Lots of $$$.

If the TF movies ended up like Last Airbender or DB:Evolution (happen to be a fan of Avatar:TLA and Dragonball) I would have personally walked -WALKED- to California and kicked those responsible in the nads and willingly go to prison for aggravated assault, but I'm only nerd-raged about the current state of the TF films.

Yes, I saw all of them. Multiple times in fact, only by virtue that I'm a huge Transformers fan and needed to critique the movies. I am disappointed, but yes I suppose it could have been much, much worse. Getting stabbed in the hand isn't as bad as getting stabbed in the liver.

JetOptimus23 wrote:...Why did you include Energon in the list of styles you liked...?

Energon is a very specific style that I enjoy. To me, it's got a good mix of all my favorite looks and designs amongst the factions. Armada and Cybertron also compliment my collection tastes quite well. Movie style does as well, but it depends on my mood.

It was stated to not for anything in particular to this conversation. I just said that I really like AEC stuff. What I was trying to say though is that is Hasbro had just stuck with leaving Transformers in the Japanese anime realm, it would not be doing well right now.

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:I'm sure all entities involved in the production of the films are responsible for the sub-par quality of the recent Transformers movies. I will, however, make honorable mentions of Steve Jablonsky on a beautiful score and the special effects teams for top notch CGI. Unfortunately, pretty pictures and sounds a good film does not make.

indeed joint responsibility for mediocrity

Noideaforaname wrote:
give Soundwave a 'musical' alt mode (which more or less just applied for the first movie).

?? You must be referring to Frenzy. SW was a satellite in ROTF.

Full shelves = shelfwarming ---yes, I've seen the same exact figs on full & half full shelves for months. NOT selling.

On whoring out -- the lame hollywood formula of very snazzy cars and lingerie models/ slutty chicks --just blatant eye candy with no depth to sell tickets and toys. All I'm asking for is just a little more character depth for the bots + cons. We care about THEM -- not the &*%&^*$&*% humans. The humans for that matter were also shallow characters and could've had at least some technical skill or prowess. Carly and Spike got themselves out of many situations with their wits and mechanical skills. (Ok, Megan Fox displayed some skill in TF1 & painting in ROTF, but Carly?? NOTHING in DOTM!!) The humans were so bland and uninteresting that they couldn't carry the movies themselves. Sick of this 1 dimensional sh*t. I blame Bay the writers & producers for all of this. No reason we couldn't have had action + depth as mentioned in some other threads. More character buildup + proper pacing = not just jump into non-stop fighting for no reason. Great to see action/fighting, but even better when you're really invested into the character.
hope this isn't too rambling - on very low sleep

all I'm asking for at the end of the day, is for the property to be handled with the same amount of care that Marvel has been giving to their staple characters. Is that too much?? Why is this so hard for people to understand?? Any fan of a franchise would want the same thing. And no, I'm not expecting a carbon copy of G1, just much better writing, story and overall execution. Stop being sheep.

the problem with calling people 'sheep' is you might think you're doing the franchise good but instead you're doing more harm. i recall in the early days of transformers fandom in the Philippines that there was only one group but their (the administration) persistence to make every member see the 'superiority' of g1 over beast wars (the main reason why most members joined the group in the first place) turned-off the majority that they split and made a new group.

basically you're calling all the fans of the live-action movies stupid that they lowered their expectations and standards to enjoy the movies, but that's just my interpretation of 'sheep'(because they follow what the shepherd(michael bay) and the sheepdogs(critics and the advertising guys) says?).

The people who blindly dilike the movies,does blame Hasbro.
They hate Hasbro,they hate Paramount,they hate Michael Bay,they hate Steven Spielberg,they hate
the desings,they hate the toys.
They hate everthing.

That why we call them haters.

The movies had some minor flaws,but that doesn stop them from being awesome.
I mean,there is a reason of why they make so make much money and sucess.

TulioDude wrote:The people who blindly dilike the movies,does blame Hasbro.
They hate Hasbro,they hate Paramount,they hate Michael Bay,they hate Steven Spielberg,they hate
the desings,they hate the toys.
They hate everthing.

That why we call them haters.

The movies had some minor flaws,but that doesn stop them from being awesome.
I mean,there is a reason of why they make so make much money and sucess.

I appreciated the designs and the toys, I think they look like great realistic adaptations of the Transformers. I just dislike the movies for the broken stories, lack of Transformer character development, and forced comedy. Don't be quick to make these judgments.

it just hit me... what did hasbro think of the megan fox debacle? how WTF-worthy would it be if hasbro wanted to keep fox in the third movie but got overriden by bay?