im saying you are using tropes for certain excuses like
you are excusing a post 9/11 airport security letting a metal box that has noise coming out of it bumping around independently as a rule of comedy - yeh im selective
the combiners rule is stated where in this movie, or is that an assumption you are making.
well if that was the last time you looked, look at the scene again. Screamer doesnt go looking for sam at all. He hits emp and reports back to megatron
Seriously if you firing a rail gun with that much power, within the close vicinity of a sun eater, its likely to set it off, juts as much as if you were to aim directly at it. if its going to go off, from that range a direct hit or not probably wont make much difference.
its a gap in logic, or weak story telling or a plot hole. it could be all and one of those things. its not selective.
1. You admit your bias, not that it's a plot hole.
2. I didn't say it was. Watch some of the Transformers series other than the movies sometime then come back to this one.
3. Why don't you? I said I looked at the scene again. You are willfully saying that you don't need to yet you don't even remember how it went.
4. Right, because last I checked Sun Harvesters automatically go off when something shoots at something else in their vacinity. And you accuse me of gaps in logic?
1. im saying i knwo you like selective quoting and misrepresenting, but admittance of bias !!!????? WTF, can you tell me that quote or inference of that in my post
2. The movie isnt other animated series or comics, its the movie version. You cant pick and choose the canon you want when it suits your points, well you can, but it proves nowt, other than selective thought processes. In that case then the matrix is all wrong, devestator should have autonomous parts, not drones, and so on and so on. no where is it said in the movie that one recently resurrected autobot, and one recently killed seeker are more powerful that six out of seven of the strongest transformers.
3. I do remember, i even gave you a scene by scene precis of it, but you ignored it. so here we go again
- sam tells bee to act as decoy for starscream
- sam says its 3/4 klicks to optimus
- starscream fires emp
- devestator scenes
- starscream lands on pyramid beside megatron
- sam arrives in the first set of buildings.
- starscream and other cons are seen scouring buildings for sam
- rampage appears and produces the parents
- bee sneaks in behind a building
so what was bunblebee doing that he couldnt drive them the 3/4 kicks to prime.
4. no they dont go off if you fire directly at them or near them. because they dont exist, same with rail guns. but to say well its ok to fire near to them but not directly at them is a gap in logic, because you are firing an imaginary gun, at a fictional sun destroyer.
5. Thinking back on the primes decision to bury the matrix, its missing something. the primes were fighting the fallen on earth. where was the fallen when they decided to sacrifice themselves and meld with the matrix in the rock. Did he look away for a minute or something. I mean in the heat of the battle did they say, close your eyes for a few minutes there fallen, no peeking, we are going to play hide and seek.
and try to keep it civil from here on out if possible, rolly eyes, passive aggressiveness and hinting at ignorance are neither helpful nor productive to your argument. I dont want a flame war