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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby starwarrior1227 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:36 am

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SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR, inferior mp-14's can suck it for all i care. :CON:
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Segor » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:46 am

So, I think those guys (Sideswipe and Red Alert) are like taller delux figures?? I've seen some MP 10 with alternators pictures and they look taller compared to him than them...
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:57 am

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Segor wrote:So, I think those guys (Sideswipe and Red Alert) are like taller delux figures?? I've seen some MP 10 with alternators pictures and they look taller compared to him than them...


Their shared mold is roughly Voyager-ish.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Deruji » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:36 am

alldarker wrote:Those slots... Are strange. It's not detail that's obvious in robot mode, and the location in alt mode isn't very visible either. As plain details, they might just as well been left out. Actually, I can't even really see where that part with the slots moves to in robot mode: it seems like those parts fold into the rear of his legs? The legs are the parts with the most available bulk to them to contain something like electronics: his main torso needs to contain a maximum of three casettes, so that will not have much available space.

Adding an MP3 player isn't very expensive, and the (pretty hefty) retail price for this item would definitely allow for something extra. The attachment below is the relevant detail, taken from the Amazon.jp site.

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The top part down to the blue is actually the bottom of Soundwave's foot. The rest flips to form the kibble on the side of his leg. I made an animation that shows that, check old post for that.

Soundwave's feet are still kind of a mystery to me, because when you look at them from the front, they look like they could either split apart or rotate the toes in some way. If you look at the second pic, you'll see that his feet have a black crack along the inner sides.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby kirbenvost » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:43 am

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Pretty sure the tech detail on the side is just that... detail to make it look like a real tape player. While they COULD fit an mp3 player in there if they wanted to, I doubt they would due to price.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby starwarrior1227 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:48 am

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kirbenvost wrote:Pretty sure the tech detail on the side is just that... detail to make it look like a real tape player. While they COULD fit an mp3 player in there if they wanted to, I doubt they would due to price.


i bet frenzy_rumble or EnclinedDesigns will fit an mp3 in their custom MP-13's.
only problem is how are you gonna be able to put and select the songs to play on the mp3?
unless you make something of a remote control. and then there are the speakers to worry about...
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby RodimalToyota » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:03 am

100$ for an alt sized figure, and plastic wheels? are you kidding me?
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Black Bumblebee » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:10 am

If you look at that close up picture, it appears to have some black buttons. My thoughts: SD card for memory, USB for charging, small black buttons (not the big tape buttons) for controllling.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby YRQRM0 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:41 pm

That definitely does not look like an SD port, USB, or anything. Plus, there's no sign of speakers, and the buttons don't look to be able to be pressed down. Also, assuming his legs are the speakers, the joints attaching the legs to the torso are too thin to conceal any kind of wires really. It'd be awesome though.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Blasphemous Prime » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:01 pm

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I'm totaly sold on Soundwave and Laserbeak. Does this mean there will be a repaint of Soundblaster?
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:22 pm

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gothweaver wrote:I'm totaly sold on Soundwave and Laserbeak. Does this mean there will be a repaint of Soundblaster?


Think about it. Almost every Soundwave produced (excluding BW Soundwave) was eventually repainted (remolded in the case of G1 Soundblaster) in the trademark colors of said character. Chances are that we're definitely gunna get an MP Soundblaster.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby NTESHFT » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:26 pm

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starwarrior1227 wrote:SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR, inferior mp-14's can suck it for all i care. :CON:



100% agreed. Soundwave, so far, IMO is the best MP done. And I'm not taking any chances on waiting to see if Hasbro is gonna bring him over here. Can't wait to get these..... :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby starwarrior1227 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:48 pm

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starwarrior1227 wrote:SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR, inferior mp-14's can suck it for all i care. :CON:



100% agreed. Soundwave, so far, IMO is the best MP done. And I'm not taking any chances on waiting to see if Hasbro is gonna bring him over here. Can't wait to get these..... :KREMZEEK:



well i would suspect mp-13 will come out to 'MERICA! and the rest of the world(except to the UK cuz we all know hasbro hates giving toys on time OR at all to the UK).
but if you are that willing to spend cash be my guess(takara's usually look better than hasbro's...) AND yes i still think soundwave is better than the mp-14s.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby XDMan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:19 pm

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My thoughts on Soundwave: YES! He is now more show accurate! :CON: :D With a better looking design, a better looking Laserbeak and what else does he have? A red visor and at very long last! But didn't Takara say that Rumble and Ravage would be released as well? I believe Hasbro may give him a yellow visor. I hope he gets a Soundblaster repaint as well. :PRAY:

My thoughts on Red Alert: He is okay but if he gets an American release, then he and Sideswipe may be in a two pack.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Stormrider » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:34 pm

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frogbat wrote:Ah these look good but I might skip.... The thing that kinda bothers me is that I'd rather see characters that were never given a good toy form.... Prime I understand (maybe not the 2 versions) and well grimlock is grimlock.. The other masterpieces... Rodimus, megs, starscream and co all had shitty toys and sorely needed decent homages.

The original sound wave toy was IMHO one of the best g1 toys as It was close to the cartoon.. This version doesn't bring much more to the table.. For the price I'd liked to have seen some mp3 playing gimmick or some proper mass shifting lol. Sideswipe though was a blockformer looked like his cartoon self in both molds, besides which the classics versions are very good.

Ultra Magnus and Galvatron... Now those would be masterpieces worth selling a kidney for..



Surely you must be jesting if you think that MP Soundwave doesn't brig much more to the table compared to G1 Soundwave.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby starwarrior1227 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:59 pm

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Stormrider wrote:
frogbat wrote:Ah these look good but I might skip.... The thing that kinda bothers me is that I'd rather see characters that were never given a good toy form.... Prime I understand (maybe not the 2 versions) and well grimlock is grimlock.. The other masterpieces... Rodimus, megs, starscream and co all had shitty toys and sorely needed decent homages.

The original sound wave toy was IMHO one of the best g1 toys as It was close to the cartoon.. This version doesn't bring much more to the table.. For the price I'd liked to have seen some mp3 playing gimmick or some proper mass shifting lol. Sideswipe though was a blockformer looked like his cartoon self in both molds, besides which the classics versions are very good.

Ultra Magnus and Galvatron... Now those would be masterpieces worth selling a kidney for..



Surely you must be jesting if you think that MP Soundwave doesn't brig much more to the table compared to G1 Soundwave.


thats not what he means. He just wants to see more MPs of transformers that never got good, show accurate toys to begin with.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby OmicronZero » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:09 pm

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YRQRM0 wrote:That definitely does not look like an SD port, USB, or anything. Plus, there's no sign of speakers, and the buttons don't look to be able to be pressed down. Also, assuming his legs are the speakers, the joints attaching the legs to the torso are too thin to conceal any kind of wires really. It'd be awesome though.

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Those definitely look like ports. As a computer guy I can say without question that they are at least supposed to look like ports. Though without a better sense of scale I can't be sure if they're "real sized" or which kind of slot that is on the bottom. The buttons admittedly confuse me, since I can't think of an intuitive way to use that number of buttons in that layout to control an MP3 player.

As for speakers, well he doesn't need to have them. While it would be a rather simple and not-all-that-costly process to just drop an I/O port plate and a cheap MP3 player into a hollow bit of the toy, speakers would require a good deal more electronics as well as the extensive wiring. So if they did put an MP3 player in there it would be more efficient to just rely on the use of headphones.

I do have to say that as cool as it would be to have, I don't think people should get their hopes up too much. It's entirely possible that the ports are merely there to better emulate a more modern mircocassette recorder. Or it could even be that it is a sort of modern recorder (using SD Cards and USB instead of cassettes) instead of an MP3 player. That would be weird. :P
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby CBratetron » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:56 pm

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I don't remember Soundwave frowning like that so much.
I do agree with comments that MP Soundwave really doesn't add much to the already fantastic G1 figure. But I think this Laserbeak and improved arm articulation are worth it.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:09 pm

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OmicronZero wrote:Though without a better sense of scale I can't be sure if they're "real sized" or which kind of slot that is on the bottom. The buttons admittedly confuse me, since I can't think of an intuitive way to use that number of buttons in that layout to control an MP3 player.


Rumor has it that Soundwave's about the same size as MP-10, which means his leg would also be around the same size as the latter. There should be just enough space for something the size of a generic micro-mp3 player.

OmicronZero wrote:...if they did put an MP3 player in there it would be more efficient to just rely on the use of headphones.


That's what I thought.

OmicronZero wrote:I do have to say that as cool as it would be to have, I don't think people should get their hopes up too much. It's entirely possible that the ports are merely there to better emulate a more modern mircocassette recorder. Or it could even be that it is a sort of modern recorder (using SD Cards and USB instead of cassettes) instead of an MP3 player. That would be weird. :P


That would be the most plausible, and also the most disappointing.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Blasphemous Prime » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:03 pm

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So what is that thing he's got in the 4th pic, a futuristic dirt devil? :lol:
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby Stormrider » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:11 pm

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gothweaver wrote:So what is that thing he's got in the 4th pic, a futuristic dirt devil? :lol:


I believe that is the device he used to jump start Jetfire in the G1 tv series.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby DevastaTTor » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:42 am

Soundwave is amazing, looks to be the best MP to date. I can't wait to see him along side all of the MP tapebots. Definitely picking up any release this mold gets.

Red Alert isn't bad but I may hold out on him and SS to see what Hasbro has planned.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby CBratetron » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:44 am

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DevastaTTor wrote:Soundwave is amazing, looks to be the best MP to date.

No way man. Soundwave is amazing but not enough to surpass Grimlock or Prime (take your pick of MP 01, 04 or 10).
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby morphobots » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:35 am

Stormrider wrote:
gothweaver wrote:So what is that thing he's got in the 4th pic, a futuristic dirt devil? :lol:


I believe that is the device he used to jump start Jetfire in the G1 tv series.


That thing took up his entire forearm. This is the energy scanner he used to locate the geothermal vent in "Fire On the Mountain" of the G1 show. Same episode in which he used Megatron in gun mode.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave and MP-14 Red Alert

Postby TimothyR » Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:20 pm

frogbat wrote:Ah these look good but I might skip.... The thing that kinda bothers me is that I'd rather see characters that were never given a good toy form.... Prime I understand (maybe not the 2 versions) and well grimlock is grimlock.. The other masterpieces... Rodimus, megs, starscream and co all had shitty toys and sorely needed decent homages.

The original sound wave toy was IMHO one of the best g1 toys as It was close to the cartoon.. This version doesn't bring much more to the table.. For the price I'd liked to have seen some mp3 playing gimmick or some proper mass shifting lol. Sideswipe though was a blockformer looked like his cartoon self in both molds, besides which the classics versions are very good.

Ultra Magnus and Galvatron... Now those would be masterpieces worth selling a kidney for..


i think you're missing the point of the masterpiece line.. they're more or less trying to recreate the cast of the transformers as they looked in the show. i'm sure magnus and galvatron will both be made at some point. and hopefully they keep getting released like this.. one large character, with two smaller characters all released at around the same time.. that way the collection can grow a little faster and they'll be able to get to everything that people want.

also, while generations sideswipe was pretty good, and G1 soundwave was pretty good.. they're still not in scale with the masterpiece line. i think you need to look a little closer at G1 soundwave and compare it to the photos of MP soundwave, MP soundwave brings a lot more to the table. accurate proportions, a much more accurate head sculpt, ridiculously better articulation.. i mean, try posing G1 soundwave with his figure pressing his eject button.

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