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PrymeStriker wrote:

Hypershock wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.


I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

I would actually dispute that. They in fact look so similar that the only thing that distinguishes them are their heads and smokescreen's lighter blue instead of black

Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

As said above, both look incredibly similar. FAR more similar than Smokescreen is to Knockout. And hey, at least bot Prowl and Smokes' have DOORWINGS!! (At this point, Bumblebee would have been better...or not. He is already overused mold wise, what with there being the Hot Shot figure and the shadow looking B6.)

Slashercon wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Hypershock wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.


I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

I would actually dispute that. They in fact look so similar that the only thing that distinguishes them are their heads and smokescreen's lighter blue instead of black

Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

As said above, both look incredibly similar. FAR more similar than Smokescreen is to Knockout. And hey, at least bot Prowl and Smokes' have DOORWINGS!! (At this point, Bumblebee would have been better...or not. He is already overused mold wise, what with there being the Hot Shot figure and the shadow looking B6.)

They probably figured Knockout's car mode bares more resemblance to Smokescreen's than Bee. And since Smokescreen "wears" his car mode's front on his chest like the majority of the TF's, it would look weird to have his chest resemble Bee's.

At least with Knockout, there are similarities.

That said, I think Smokescreen deserves at least a retool (Bumblebee mold, but retooled car front and trunk), if not his very own mold.

I wasn't to happy when I heard smokescreen was gonna be a knockout re paint but I'm actually pleased with how he looks. I mean I'd rather have a new mold but if this is all we get I'm happy with it. Also really liking salis breakdown he looks nice all black I just hope he has an eye patch.

Slashercon wrote:FAR more similar than Smokescreen is to Knockout.

Actually, Smokescreen's torso is more accurate to Knock Out's toy's official transformation. The legs are very similar to Knock Out period; it's just the arms and wings. If we had gotten new arms and door wings, then I wouldn't be as disappointed with this toy.

And I was pointing out their differences, not their similarities. So, this isn't exactly valid when quoting me:

Slashercon wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:
Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

As said above, both look incredibly similar.

That Smokescreen makes me so sad I'm regretting buying Kock Out too. I knew the figure didn't do that character justice but this makes me realise just how wide of the mark they were. They really do deserve better. Come on 3rd parties. Show us what you're made of.

I'm surprised to see Silas Breakdown is just a black repaint of the standard figure. Or has it got a slightly messed up eye which I just can't see?

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

The whole thing said - Where is the logic behind the thought of mixing Hasbro with something that is solely Takara Tomy's line? The Arms Micron toyline is primarily sold in each and every Toys"R"Us in Japan. Meaning that anything tied to Hasbro, namely the Jagex game and Beast Hunters have nothing to do with this. Because when it comes to logic, TOMY decided to make something that was not expensive and that kids within a certain age group will enjoy. Namely young, Japanese boys. Beyond that, they just get the added benefit of having their line enjoyed by collectors who are willing to buy what they like.

So for me... Looking at this figure has made me decide that "Arms Micron" Wildrider will be my last for now, when it comes to Prime. Oh... And I am mildly disappointed that they did not go with a pinkish chrome for "Lucky Draw" Arcee. It looks good, but in the theme of show-accuracy, the white/silver chrome should be a shade of pink. Just sayin'.

Thanks to updated product listings on Amazon Japan we have much better images of Takara Tomy's upcoming Transformers Prime Arms Micron figures AM-24 Silas Breakdown, AM-25 Nemesis Prime, and AM-26 Smokescreen. These images reveal that Silas Breakdown does indeed feature a remolded head with busted eye and includes a mini Silas molded inside Breakdown's chest cavity. Images mirrored below.

Silas in Breakdown's chest... creepy. Me wants. Aw hell, I want all.

Wow! I'm very glad I sprang for the Silas Breakdown! He is different enough to fully justify getting this version and the AM-12 Breakdown. Having Silas inside his chest explains the different grill mold. Overall, I'm very excited to get him.

Smokescreen still doesn't impress me. His head mold looks like Knockout's shape with just a different face. This remold/retool/whatever is NOT different enough to justify the price of importing him...at least to me. I'll pass on him.

Rhinox23 wrote:Can anyone tell if Silas Breakdown has an eye patch? I can't see one, but the picture is too small. Either way, I've preordered him and am very excited to get him!

Smokescreen on the other hand... This remold simply does not work for him. While his vehicle mold looks pretty good (and so does his head mold), I really can't stand his robot mode. If Hasbro doesn't release a new mold version of him then I guess I just won't have a Smokescreen in my TFP collection.

I was trying to collect every show character (and a few others because TFP Rumble seems awesome) but I gave up on that after seeing how crappy Airachnid is. Oh well, I can still get all of the good show characters!

There is no eye patch and there isn't supossed to be one. It's more of a hole with a more earth looking robotic eye.