You know what? If I was Bay, if I was the head of Paramount, I'd run for the hills before I'd ever considering taking another stab at this property.
Because people just can't ever be happy.
We asked for more robots and we got 'em.
We asked for Prime not to be a wuss and we ended up with Psychopath Prime.
We asked for bigger and we got bigger.
Yet people bitched and moaned continually. What DO you want them to do? I mean really. And don't you dare sit there and take this property so seriously that you honestly believe it has the potential to be Oscar caliber material, because it ain't. It's a badly made 1980's cartoon come to life with flair and expertise. The fact that we can tell people we're Transfans with a straight face and no longer have to hide in embarrassment should tell you that something's gone right.
There is only so much that can be done with this property. I mean, at some point you have to realize it's a flick about GIANT ALIEN ROBOTS BASED ON A CARTOON! A CARTOON!!! Yet, it's become a respectable franchise, the public has embraced it, and people of ALL ages, ALL over the world couldn't get enough of it.
What more do you people want? Seriously. Sure, the movies could use a bit more depth, a bit more emotion and humanity coming from the Autobots, sure the stories need a bit more meat on their bones, but beyond a certain point, there is only so much that can be done.
This is not Hamlet, this is not Oscar material, and once you face those facts, you'll enjoy yourselves quite a bit more. To honestly believe there's more depth to the mythos, and wait for it to be shown to the world, then you're being silly, and wasting time.
I read the Dreamwave comics. Sure, they had depth. Sure, they had action. They were also boring, relentless, and became so "meh" that I couldn't even finish reading them. I stopped caring because they became SO unimportant.
Yes, the writing, emotion, and depth could be turned up a bit more, but don't delude yourselves. Please have enough self respect to realize this is a property of fun, a property of TOYS, and a couple of popcorn movies to add to the fun. This isn't supposed to be spellbinding docudrama type stuff. This is supposed to be loud, brassy, outrageous, and most of all...FUN.
And it succeeds in that department. By leaps and bounds.
And here's the thing...if they waited three years, the bitching would still continue. People would still find a reason to complain about the film. "We waited three years and got...this? F**K YOU MIKAEL BHEY!" (or something equally lame)
Whether it's two years and you feel it's rushed, or three years and it still doesn't quite hit the mark for you...isn't the outcome the same? Aren't you going to bitch about it? Yes, yes you are. Constantly, every chance you get.
Bay and Paramount are damned if they do, damned if they don't. You people have already passed judgment and won't budge on it come hell or high water, because you can't take off your G1, rose colored, view of the world glasses. You've left them on for so long, the skin's starting to grow around them.
I'm glad it'll be coming in 2 years, that means the bitching epidemic will come and go sooner. It's bad enough before, during, and after the film, but the wait time for the sequel all while listening to the people yammer? Oh hell no.
To Paramount and Bay: I love you, man. You people just saved me an extra year's worth of bitching by moving the movie up a year. So thank you, sincerely. I mean it.
D-340 wrote:vectorA3 wrote:
You mentioned the strike twice, which leads me to this: ROTF was a better film, that's not just personal opinion, but the box office says it was. (If it truly was as bad as everyone claimed, it would've NEVER hit box office take that it has. Not even close.)
Just because a movie is financially successful doesn't make it a better quality movie. I'm willing to bet that alot of ROTF box office came from the fact that Megan Fox was dressed 2 sizes to tight and running through the desert. I know it diverted my attention from ROTF's crappiness for a little while.
Oh it was definitely a better quality film compared to the first one.
This one actually had a story. (The first movie barely had one, and it was so convoluted that it felt like a cinematic Rube Goldberg machine.)
This one was better paced. (Some scenes could've picked up steam, other slowed down a bit, but compared to the first one, as is, it's a masterpiece. TF1 was so slow and boring in the first half of the film, I'm surprised I made it through the whole thing without taking a nap. Snore fest 2007)
The sights, the sounds, the action. (All better in ROTF. TF1 had it's moments, but they weren't enough to save the rest of that trainwreck. Blech.)
As for the Megan Fox comment, uh...no. I barely paid her a bit of attention, she's that unimportant to me and the movie. Absolutely, without a doubt, she is a total waste. I know some folks watched her like a hawk, throughout the movie, but the rest of us find her to be foul, and rightfully so.
And again I say, the boxoffice numbers don't lie. A lot of fans, such as yourself, claim that the first movie was better. However, even with it being a box office winner, ROTF beat every record TF1 made, and then some. Especially in the money department.
A lot of people say G.I. Joe is the better movie (I, myself lean towards that) and it's domestic box office take was abysmal. (Fortunately, international audiences helped take the box office into the hit column.)
If ROTF truly is as bad as you say, then the box office never would've hit the amount it has. All it takes is one good word of mouth to say "This sucked. Skip it." and it would spread like wildfire. At that point, the movie could've made a mediocre return at the box office, if it was lucky. Instead, everyone and their brother went not only once, not only twice, but some went TEN times to see this film. It was the #1 movie in the WORLD at one point. The entire world is wrong? To the tune of almost $900 thou? Really? I don't think so.
I don't care for Harry Potter, in fact, I downright HATE it. It bores me to tears. Yet, I would be a jackass to admit anything but the fact that it IS a hit, and the quality is high. Even though I don't like it, I have to admit it's pulled off a respectable feat, especially now that we're at 6 (or is it 7?) and it still has the box office take that it does.
Same thing applies to ROTF. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean the rest of us are wrong. Obviously something went right, or it wouldn't have been a financial success, and overlooking the fact that there's quality in there somewhere, is just a pathetic attempt to grasp at straws because the argument is a bust.
ROTF was a hit with the audiences, the take was ginormous, and there was quality in it. The robots alone should prove that.
See it however you want, you're entitled to be wrong.
NOTE: Realize that I am not a perfect Christian, nor do I profess to be. I apologize if anyone's ever offended by me, I'm not perfect. Don't hold my posts and opinions against other Christians.
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