shockblast2 wrote:Why in the hell do you keep saying IDW is G1?
Because that's what their main comic continuity is. It's a G1 continuity. - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/IDW_Generation_1_continuity
That right there is totally a G1 continuity. Not "THE" G1 continuity, but one of many.
shockblast2 wrote:G1 is just that. G1 has not existed since 1990.
Then what would you call Dreamwave's non-Armada/non-Energon/non-Beast Wars/non-RiD comic continuity from 2002-2004?
shockblast2 wrote:The IDW version of Transformers goes hand in hand with FOC/WFC.
I'm sorry but I'm afraid you are greatly mistaken.
IDW has been publishing Transformers comics since 2005, five whole years before WFC ever even existed, and has been running steadily since then. But, not everything IDW has released has been part of a single continuity. The following is a list of all comic series released by IDW, and grouped together by continuity:IDW Generation 1 Continuity
Transformers: The Movie adaptation
- Spotlight issues
- New Avengers/Transformers
- Megatron Origin
- Maximum Dinobots
- All Hail Megatron
- The Transformers (ongoing, 2009-2011)
- Last Stand of the Wreckers
- Heart of Darkness
- The Death of Optimus Prime
- More Than Meets The Eye
- Robots in Disguise - this is the one that has been borrowing WFC/FOC body designs
IDW Beast Wars Continuity
- Transformers: The Animated Movie
Evolutions G1 Continuity
- The Gathering
- The Ascending
- Beast Wars Sourcebook
- Hearts of Steel
- Infestation 2
- Movie Prequel
- Target exclusive Movie prequels - "Planetfall" and "Interlude"
- Movie Adaptation
- The Reign of Starscream
- Saga of the AllSpark
- Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation
- Tales of the Fallen
- Sector 7
- Rising Storm
- Target exclusive Jazz, Space Case, Ratchet, Bumblebee, Arcee, and Starscream pack-in comics
- Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation
Marvel Comics Continuity Continuation
- Animated adaptation
- The Arrival
- The AllSpark Almanac
- The AllSpark Almanac II
- War for Cybertron (one-shot)
- TF: Prime (graphic novel)
- TF: Prime adaptation
- Fall of Cybertron
- TF: Prime Rage of the Dinobots
- TF: Prime Beast Hunters
And of those lists, only the last one is in continuity with the WFC/FOC video games.
shockblast2 wrote:This is evident in the fact that they use each others designs.
Just because IDW's Robots in Disguise story borrows WFC/FOC designs doesn't put it in the Aligned Continuity. It also has Sky-Byte from the RiD cartoon as well, but that doesn't tie it to the RiD cartoon.
Otherwise, Monstrosity would have to be in Aligned as well because of this guy:
shockblast2 wrote:There is no story or spotlight on any story replicated from G1.
So? That's because it's a new
G1. A different
G1. There's more than one G1 continuity. Always have been, alwasy will be.
shockblast2 wrote:The fact that the dinobots and insecticons exist pre-earth should tip you off of this fact.
You do realize that there's far more to G1 than just its old cartoon, right?
shockblast2 wrote:And the fact bots like Springer and co appear.
See the resemblance?
With Springer, that is.
shockblast2 wrote:In G1, they did not come on the scene until season 3.
Yet again, there is far more to "G1" than just the cartoon.
shockblast2 wrote:As far as the new "thrilling 30" toys go, Blitzwing itself is DEFINITELY not g1. His face proves that.
Merely a borrowed design aspect integrated into the modern day Generation 1 character.
shockblast2 wrote:And I do not recall Springer towering over Ultra Magnus or even Optimus for that matter.
Hasbro simply hasn't yet made any toys of IDW G1 Optimus or Ultra Magnus that are to scale with the Springer toy.
Or, if one feels like it, they could use these toys:
shockblast2 wrote:Like I told the other guy, yes these are IDW figures.
shockblast2 wrote:THEY ARE NOT G1. It is that simple.
shockblast2 wrote:Geewun is dead and has been for two decades now.
The cartoon? Yes. The Marvel Comics? Yes. The Dreamwave comics? Yes (but only for about one decade). The IDW comics? NOPE!
There's also Wings Universe and All Spark that are still going on, both of which are G1 as well.
shockblast2 wrote:Move on. Live in the now.
No worries, man, as that's exactly what we're doing.
shockblast2 wrote:And now it is all about WFC/FOC/IDW.
And TF: Prime. And Rescue Bots. And IDW G1. And Wings Universe. And Beast Wars Shattered Glass. And All Spark. And Masterpiece. And Kre-O. And Bot Shots. And GT. And Go! And the hyping up of Transformers 4.
So, yeah, there's a whole lot more going on than just "WFC/FOC/IDW".
shockblast2 wrote:To the guy above that mentions Warpath, funny you mention him. I firmly believe that his Generations toy is a WFC figure. Before you go all nerd rage on me, consider this. Look at it. It looks almost identical to the WFC verison. More square than rounded like the video game, but definitely closer to the WFC than geewun. Adn before you give me that the pre 2012 Generations toys that were WFC said "cybertronian", consider Cliffjumpers figure did not and his is definitely WFC. And the fact that Warpaths alt mode says "cybertronian tank" in the description backs this up. It doesn't look like or say earth tank mode. As a matter of fact, the only geewun correlation it has it that it is a tank, its red, and it is called Warpath. So was the scout from the TFTM toyline. And that abomination was definitely not Warpath.
Thing is, though, Cliffjumper's toy came out when the "Cybertronian" ones were still being sold. Warpath, however, came out at the very end of the 2011 line, right when the Phase 2/ "Classics-style" toys were out and dominating the line.
Plus, you said so yourself. The toy is more square than rounded, which the WFC model was, whereas the G1 guy was definitely more square like the toy.
There's also the fact that, had Hasbro intended the Warpath toy to represent the WFC/FOC character, they pretty likely would have said so. Yet, they did not. Not at BotCon 2010 or 2011, not at SDCC 2010 or 2011, not at NYCC 2010 or 2011, nowhere.
With the way Warpath's toy differs from the WFC/FOC design moreso than the other WFC/FOC Generations toys, you'd need some pretty hard, irrefutable evidence (like an official say-so from Hasbro) to convince the fandom of it being a toy of the WFC/FOC character, as you would be in the minority on that one.