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Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Mon May 28, 2012 12:16 am

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Have you ever experienced something you knew was unnatural that you just couldnt explain?

I grew up in a house that can really only be described in one word: Haunted. Iv'e seen creepy, unexplainable phenominon that makes my spine shiver just thinking about it even to this day.

I never intended to start a thread about this here, but I figured why not? I mean, if you believe in aliens, and god, why not things that are spiritual in origins?

Have you ever experienced anything, that no matter how you would try to convince yourself otherwise, you KNEW was a, for lack of a better word, Spirit? tearing through your privacy and waiting for you to return home, only to haunt you? To play on your feelinga of fear and emotions to the point of insanity?

These things happen to enough people, I want to know how many are on this site, and are willing to share your stories.
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Re: Do you believe in the paranormal?

Postby RhA » Mon May 28, 2012 12:48 am

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Believing in aliens is completely different from believinging in ghosts.

Beyond that, I do not believe in ghosts or any paranormal activity. If such a thing exsists, it does so because of physical possibilities and would be explainable. There goes the 'para'.

Furthermore, there is no shred of proof that ghosts exsist outside of your own mind.
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Re: Do you believe in the paranormal?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 28, 2012 6:19 am

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Paranormal activity is crap. Not real. Thought up by some imaginative and/or insane people.
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Re: Do you believe in the paranormal?

Postby BeastProwl » Mon May 28, 2012 8:19 am

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Ide like the two of you to visit my childhood home now, please and thank you.

And, paranormal phenominon HAS a scientific explination, so you may want to re-think your arguments.
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Re: Do you believe in the paranormal?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 28, 2012 8:49 am

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BeastProwl wrote:Ide like the two of you to visit my childhood home now, please and thank you.


Provide an address?

And, paranormal phenominon HAS a scientific explination, so you may want to re-think your arguments.


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Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Mon May 28, 2012 10:30 am

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You live in california? Around long beach? If so, I can PM the address, if your even going to go that is. That WOULD be aproblem though, now other people are living there.

And as for the two of you thinking its "All in the mind" then how do you explain everyone in the room on christmas morning (My deadbeat uncle, POS grandfather, then annoying cousin, my other cousin I consider my brother, my saint of a grandmother, and my uncle's "Wife", and me) All juming and stairing at the wall at the same time? I saw an elderly man walk through the living room and out through the window. Just then my cousin asked "you saw him too?" I said "yeah" and he said it looked like an old man.

That's just one of MANY experiences we have all had in that house. I'm done trying to get you two to believe me though, since it wont happen. People who are cemented in their beliefs are hard to move out of them because their minds are focused on what they truly believe. The only way your minds would change is if you experienced thinks like this first hand.

That being said, i'm expanding this thread a bit.

I dont want to start a flamewar on beliefs here.

So...Has anyone here seen a UFO?
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 28, 2012 3:05 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:You live in california? Around long beach? If so, I can PM the address, if your even going to go that is. That WOULD be aproblem though, now other people are living there.

And as for the two of you thinking its "All in the mind" then how do you explain everyone in the room on christmas morning (My deadbeat uncle, POS grandfather, then annoying cousin, my other cousin I consider my brother, my saint of a grandmother, and my uncle's "Wife", and me) All juming and stairing at the wall at the same time? I saw an elderly man walk through the living room and out through the window. Just then my cousin asked "you saw him too?" I said "yeah" and he said it looked like an old man.


Too much eggnog?

That's just one of MANY experiences we have all had in that house. I'm done trying to get you two to believe me though, since it wont happen. People who are cemented in their beliefs are hard to move out of them because their minds are focused on what they truly believe. The only way your minds would change is if you experienced thinks like this first hand.


Exactly. Unless something like this happens to me, I'm not believing any of it. I've had other people tell me of their experiences with ghosts and out-of body events, both malevolent and benevolent, and I usually just leave them with it. I think stuff like this is a hallucination brought on by various different effects on the brain, such as side effects of medication, stress, and psychosis.

So...Has anyone here seen a UFO?


In real life? Can't say that I have. Though I do believe there are other intelligent life forms out there, and that they have visited this planet before.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby prowl123 » Mon May 28, 2012 3:21 pm

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I definitely believe in aliens, but I'm not too sure about ghosts. I have experienced some interesting things that I can't explain, but I'm not exactly sure if they're 'paranormal.'

Just this morning actually, everyone else in the house was asleep. I was on the computer, an I heard someone whistling at the other end of the room.

Also, I once saw a large shadowy figure walk into my room and then disappear.

Third, I heard a loud scraping noise in the basement as if a bin was being pushed across the floor. There was nobody else down there.

These experiences were most likely my mind playing tricks on me, but they're definitely weird.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Mon May 28, 2012 3:27 pm

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My uncle was the only one who drank any 8-}
Anyway, I inquired with my mom about it, and she said that when she stayed there, she had also seen him. It was a man who she knew as a kid. His spirit was still there. I didnt believe her, but then she showed me the photo of him. It was unreal. It was the same man! It was a mirror image, and I had never seen the man before in my life before that point. That's what shattered all doubts about the experience.

As for UFOs, there was this one time (AT BAND CAMP!) when I was looking out my window and into the sky. It was night time and I saw a flying object with a bright orange glow fading in and out on the bottom, and it was completely silent. Now, it didnt freak me out. I think that was one of ours. But I didnt kow wtf it was, so its a UFO by default.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Mon May 28, 2012 3:28 pm

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prowl123 wrote:I definitely believe in aliens, but I'm not too sure about ghosts. I have experienced some interesting things that I can't explain, but I'm not exactly sure if they're 'paranormal.'

Just this morning actually, everyone else in the house was asleep. I was on the computer, an I heard someone whistling at the other end of the room.

Also, I once saw a large shadowy figure walk into my room and then disappear.

Third, I heard a loud scraping noise in the basement as if a bin was being pushed across the floor. There was nobody else down there.

These experiences were most likely my mind playing tricks on me, but they're definitely weird.

Well, all of those things can be explained, but the shadowy figure, were you awake? like Wide awake?
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby prowl123 » Mon May 28, 2012 3:39 pm

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prowl123 wrote:I definitely believe in aliens, but I'm not too sure about ghosts. I have experienced some interesting things that I can't explain, but I'm not exactly sure if they're 'paranormal.'

Just this morning actually, everyone else in the house was asleep. I was on the computer, an I heard someone whistling at the other end of the room.

Also, I once saw a large shadowy figure walk into my room and then disappear.

Third, I heard a loud scraping noise in the basement as if a bin was being pushed across the floor. There was nobody else down there.

These experiences were most likely my mind playing tricks on me, but they're definitely weird.

Well, all of those things can be explained, but the shadowy figure, were you awake? like Wide awake?


Yeah, it was only like 6:30.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby Dead Metal » Mon May 28, 2012 4:18 pm

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Ghosts are mostly just a side effect by gasses and old electricity lines reacting, triggering parts of your brain to hallucinate.
Often these hallucinations trigger a vague memory, be it something you've been told or something you actually experienced. Which explains the old man you and your family saw, you mother saw him as an hallucination told you, and maybe you even saw a picture of him at one point and then you all started to see him, but never in all rooms in the house, just in certain rooms or parts of it.


I personally used to believe in ghosts, but I'm not sure I do really, guess I lost that believe along with Santa and God.

I do believe in aliens though, simply for how unlikely it is that we're the only ones in this giant universe. However, I don't believe in aliens actually visiting our planet any time soon, those UFO sightings are just crazy people and/ or experimental aircraft by our own people. Oh and then there are the fakes that are often discovered and swamp lights, or ball lightings.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Mon May 28, 2012 5:41 pm

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That doesnt explain ghosts thah have been seen outdoors, or underwater. That man was never mentioned once before then. The only picture she had of him was in lockbox that she hadnt open in nearly 23 years.

Point is, No one but her knew who he was, and she only opened it after I kept persisting...

Seriously, you mention you have a photo of the guy but you dont want me to see it? the argument when on for a while, but she would not win.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Mon May 28, 2012 7:03 pm

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Not sure if I believe in ghosts, but I'd like to. I've never had a paranormal experience. Are they displaced living energy? Hallucinations? Who knows?

I believe in aliens, but I doubt they've been here yet. Just seems very scientifically far fetched to think they've actually made it here without us noticing. Or have we noticed? The government keeps lots of secrets. :shock:
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon May 28, 2012 8:55 pm

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Ghosts: I believe there is the possibility of spirit activity in the world, and that SOME stories of spirit activity could be valid. However, I believe a large amount of descriptions of so-called "sightings" and television programs on the subject are pretty much crap, either a lie or a hallucination. Because ghosts and paranormal activity intrigue so many people it's easy to fabricate a story for attention or money.

UFOs: I believe all UFO sightings are one of these three: 1. A fabricated story 2. A hoax 3. An experimental vehicle/device created by the government/military. I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe, but it is too far to reach us or us to them, so I reject the theory of aliens on Earth. Yes, Area 51 and whatever other places the government has now do hold top secret things, but not aliens. Just a bunch of experimental aircraft and weapons, like the Aurora spy plane.

Cryptids/Unexplained Creatures: Most of what people say is 100% crap. It is interesting to entertain the idea of an unevolved ape man or something but I doubt there are Sasquatches and Yetis running around. The moth-man was an interesting story, and I'm actually on the fence about that.

Personal experiences of none of these have happened to me though. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby Noideaforaname » Mon May 28, 2012 10:34 pm

I like reading paranormal reports, but I just cannot believe them. More often than not there just isn't enough proof backing up the claims (eyewitness accounts, blurry footage, and idle speculation does not a strong case make).
Shows like Finding Bigfoot and Ghosthunters are even worse; there is no way their "methods" could possibly find anything.

Jumping to conclusions and sweeping generalizations really hurt a lot of these cases, too. The term "UFO" doesn't imply anything about a phenomenon beyond it being unknown and air-born, yet any odd spec in the sky is instantly labelled "alien spacecraft filled with little gray men hellbent on abducting poor humans." And then of course the paranormal is so utterly ill-defined you can't ever disprove it, regardless of how much and how solid evidence you got it was something perfectly normal.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Mon May 28, 2012 10:37 pm

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I'm a rather rational person most days, however I can have bouts of Nixon-esc paranoia when "differenty" things happen, like if there's odd noises.

When it comes to ghosts, ohh, I don't really believe in them. My friend says that he has a girl haunting him but he's in the UK sooo yeah. However, I live in 100 year old building so I don't want to take any chances. I mean if you watch horror movies, ghosts and demons, they only target those who piss it off.

UFO's; Never seen one, but doesn't they aren't real. I think there are aliens. Maybe not like that show uhm Ancient aliens, but yeah
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby prowl123 » Tue May 29, 2012 4:53 am

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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby RhA » Tue May 29, 2012 6:49 am

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BeastProwl wrote:And as for the two of you thinking its "All in the mind" then how do you explain everyone in the room on christmas morning (My deadbeat uncle, POS grandfather, then annoying cousin, my other cousin I consider my brother, my saint of a grandmother, and my uncle's "Wife", and me) All juming and stairing at the wall at the same time? I saw an elderly man walk through the living room and out through the window. Just then my cousin asked "you saw him too?" I said "yeah" and he said it looked like an old man.


Mass-hysteria is one explaination.

It's really a powerfull force, a while ago I was at a schoolcamp (as a teacher). During dinnertime one table of six students got sick and went out to puke. While I was searchiong for the cause, antoher teacher explained to me that similar cases frequently occur. One gets sick for some reason and the rest convince themselves that they are too. A symptom not of sickness, but of social conformation.

The mind is a great thing, it can bullshit itself severely. All six girls where fine ten minutes later.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Tue May 29, 2012 9:52 am

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That's whats commenly referred to as "The Rake"
Its a well done fake. The reasons I dont believe it are:
1. I cant understand a damn thing they are saying.
2. You ever run into an angry homeless guy in the woods tak'n a ****? I havn't, but I think he'd react like that.
3. Those particular cameras can make anyone look like that at night, so they could have just had their friend posted in the bushes up there, and had him waiting.

But there have been numurous sightings of "The Rake" but only after it popped up on a CreepyPasta site. Seriously, you like horror, go to CreepyPasta.com. Great stuff can be found there. There's also a guy on youtube who reads the best stories, MrCreepyPasta. It's all un-believable and fake, but some people believe alot of it, or base their stories off of things like that video there. check it out.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Wed May 30, 2012 1:39 pm

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I work on Archaeological digs (amongst other things). As far as I'm concerned, 'Ghosts' exist. The definitions of Ghost, Spirit, Soul, Psyche and so on are so blurred now that the first thing you have to do is acknowledge and yet ignore all of them. Regarding Aliens, the mathematical possibility is such that they should exist as well.

Don't take offense at what I say:

* Don't do drugs. Whether you do or not is none of my business, but there are very many ppl who do recreationally- the first step to deciding whether or not you have a 'ghost' in your vicinity is to be clean.

*Don't pay attention to ANY television or storybook versions of ghosts. They aren't there to kill you, and they aren't there to come back to life and Marry you, the same way you aren't there to either kill or marry them.

*Go to your Spiritual Father/Priest analog according to your religious denomination and request for a blessing/cleansing ceremony of your denominations' choice for the 'Ghost'. 99% of the time the same ceremony will be provided for you as well.

*If you see them again and again, look at what is happening around you.I can give you plenty of ghost stories, but I would rather not tell too many cuz in my culture, this jinxes the ghost and brings them bad luck.

*Don't believe ANYONE except yourself.

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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed May 30, 2012 1:59 pm

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Lots of people in my family have experienced this kind of stuff before. I haven't, but if I did, I'd be scared pissless. I have seen a lot of UFOs though. Every time I see one, I just want to flag the damn thing down and tell the aliens to take me away from this hell hole. But I always forget...
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Wed May 30, 2012 2:09 pm

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My room was haunted by a shadow peerson for the longest time, and for all you naysayers, I dont give a damn, that **** was as real as it gets.
Shadow people can't harm you, at least, I dont think they can, but the wikipedia entry states otherwise, but they are scary as hell. I mean, just WOW.

I did a rough MS paint sketch of what the damn thing looked like, and before you say bullshit, I swear to god, this thing haunted me. And not just me, millions of people have seen them all over the world. My crude sketch from memory:

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A sketch from another man I found online:
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Pretty damn similar. Sans the spikes and horns. Point is, shadow people have become the #1 most sighted paranormal phenominon in the US. I think at least 85% of it is complete BS, because they are often described as "Being seen as moving shadows out of the corner of your eye" but the one I saw, I looked it dead in the eyes. Those eyes. Those red, soul piercing eyes...
I also couldnt move, or talk, or scream, until it whent into my ceiling. Like in that pic above, it was at the edge of my bed. I looked at it, and I made out it's head, bony structure, horns, and the shoulder spike looking things. It didnt have feet though, it just drifted up, and the bottom of its body was blurred. It was completely silent. Odd thing is, everything else was too. It's like when it was around, sound just didn't exist. But I'll never forget that thing, as long as I live.
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby BeastProwl » Wed May 30, 2012 2:10 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:Lots of people in my family have experienced this kind of stuff before. I haven't, but if I did, I'd be scared pissless. I have seen a lot of UFOs though. Every time I see one, I just want to flag the damn thing down and tell the aliens to take me away from this hell hole. But I always forget...

Like they would actually come for you...
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Re: Paranormal and other unexplained things: A discussion.

Postby Wheeljack35 » Wed May 30, 2012 7:23 pm

Well I have never seen a shadow figure but I have seen a full apariton
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