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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Evil Eye » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:29 pm

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

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Ma...ma...ma...matrix chamber?!?!?!?!?!? *THUMP* My jaw just dropped. This guy gets sexier every time I see him. Plus, I have a soft spot for Primes with a removable matrix.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:36 pm

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That beast mode is... interesting... :-?
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:47 pm

Think they need to measure the robot toy from head to toe. Not top of shoulder pads beast armor to feet. The toy is not 23CM or 9.1 inches tall from head to toe. Don't think it's even 8.5 inches tall from head to toe. Think it's the same robot height of Beast Wars II lio Convoy.

Still don't like the sleek, skinny,Tall, Ninja looking gundam robot head sculpt on this toy. Sometimes a head can make or break a toy. Think it broke this toy.

Think the colors and sculpt look great on this toy. Just don't know if I need it in my collection. With Third party TF toys being so expensive. Only buy the Third party Updates toys ones that HasTak fails at doing or doesn't make.

Still think that Takara Beast Wars II Lio Convoy Ultra Class toy has aged well. Still think it is decently articulated, High sculpted and beautiful looking. About the only flaw I see is no shoulder connecting tabs.

For me at least. Think if Third parties make update toys based off HasTak original toys. Then the toy needs to offer something radically different, not be similar. Like being a toy class bigger, Having much more articulation. Beast Wars II lio Convoy is the same toy class as Leonidas. Beast Wars II Lio Convoy had a lot of articulated parts on the robot mode.

Still think the Takara 1997 Beast Wars II Lio Convoy. Lion form is the most beautiful sculpting I've ever seen done on a Beast Wars toy. Like the rigid fur, sculpt, Lion claws, Mane gimmick and pretty Lion face.

While I like the sculpting look on the Zoids and Gundam toys. Don't think I need to see them fuzed together on my update Beast Wars toys.

I'll be honest here. If Hasbro sold this Ultra class Leonidas toy for around USA retail $30, I'd buy it. Just don't think it's worth expensive Third party prices. as I think the Beast Wars II version was a almost flawless, well made, perfect, beautiful, well articulated toy.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:25 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just don't think it's worth expensive Third party prices. as I think the Beast Wars II version was a almost flawless, well made, perfect, beautiful, well articulated toy.

First off, you don't even know how much this will cost.

Second, have you looked at how much Beast Wars II Lio Convoy goes for these days?

It's really unfair to rail against 3rd Party prices in every thread, when the alternative you hail as near-perfect will put you out just as much money.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Fox Thiagarajan » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:30 pm

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby shajaki » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:42 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:I think the Beast Wars II version was a almost flawless, well made, perfect, beautiful, well articulated toy.
OK. Opinion counts for something.... but are you for real? Are we talking about the original Lio Convoy? I like him don't get me wrong, but as far as Beast Convoy's go he's at the bottom of my list.

In beast mode those front legs are almost as pointless as pre-TM Cheetor. Bot mode is full of fun-hindering kibble, that torso is not solid at all, and i always felt the head sculpt was soft.

That list of accolades really bewilders me :???:
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby guarayakha » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:55 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Still don't like the sleek, skinny,Tall, Ninja looking gundam robot head sculpt on this toy. Sometimes a head can make or break a toy. Think it broke this toy.

Still think that Takara Beast Wars II Lio Convoy Ultra Class toy has aged well. Still think it is decently articulated, High sculpted and beautiful looking. About the only flaw I see is no shoulder connecting tabs.

Still think the Takara 1997 Beast Wars II Lio Convoy. Lion form is the most beautiful sculpting I've ever seen done on a Beast Wars toy. Like the rigid fur, sculpt, Lion claws, Mane gimmick and pretty Lion face.

While I like the sculpting look on the Zoids and Gundam toys. Don't think I need to see them fuzed together on my update Beast Wars toys.

I'll be honest here. If Hasbro sold this Ultra class Leonidas toy for around USA retail $30, I'd buy it. Just don't think it's worth expensive Third party prices. as I think the Beast Wars II version was a almost flawless, well made, perfect, beautiful, well articulated toy.


Meanwhile, his previous post just a page back, dated 6 days ago:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Like the Gundam Zoids sculpting this toy has. Love how every part has sculpted details on it.

Looking at that Beast Wars II Lioconvoy to next to Leonidas. The Takara toy looks outdatted Thirty years old, Undersculpted, plain, simple and booring.


If you can't afford it, fine. There's no need **** on it and make up reasons to justify your decisions. >:oP
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby synapse » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:16 am

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This toy looks freaking amazing.

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:49 am

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guarayakha wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Still don't like the sleek, skinny,Tall, Ninja looking gundam robot head sculpt on this toy. Sometimes a head can make or break a toy. Think it broke this toy.

Still think that Takara Beast Wars II Lio Convoy Ultra Class toy has aged well. Still think it is decently articulated, High sculpted and beautiful looking. About the only flaw I see is no shoulder connecting tabs.

Still think the Takara 1997 Beast Wars II Lio Convoy. Lion form is the most beautiful sculpting I've ever seen done on a Beast Wars toy. Like the rigid fur, sculpt, Lion claws, Mane gimmick and pretty Lion face.

While I like the sculpting look on the Zoids and Gundam toys. Don't think I need to see them fuzed together on my update Beast Wars toys.

I'll be honest here. If Hasbro sold this Ultra class Leonidas toy for around USA retail $30, I'd buy it. Just don't think it's worth expensive Third party prices. as I think the Beast Wars II version was a almost flawless, well made, perfect, beautiful, well articulated toy.


Meanwhile, his previous post just a page back, dated 6 days ago:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Like the Gundam Zoids sculpting this toy has. Love how every part has sculpted details on it.

Looking at that Beast Wars II Lioconvoy to next to Leonidas. The Takara toy looks outdatted Thirty years old, Undersculpted, plain, simple and booring.


If you can't afford it, fine. There's no need **** on it and make up reasons to justify your decisions. >:oP


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Great effort on Leonidas. He looks so mech sexy! Wish it will arrive soon with no QC issues. Given how Warden came out, this should not disappoint. Btw, the original Lio geta $80.00 max on ebay. Not that expensive. And, if you compare Lio Convoy with the Robotmasters versions, I prefer the head sculpt of the latter. Just the "Head" sculpt.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Robogeek1973 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:52 am

Too rich for my blood. :lol:
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Rated X » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:51 am

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I like it but I dont 150 like it. What scale is it anyways ? Hopefully MP so I wont be tempted.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:16 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Still don't like the sleek, skinny,Tall, Ninja looking gundam robot head sculpt on this toy. Sometimes a head can make or break a toy. Think it broke this toy.

Still think that Takara Beast Wars II Lio Convoy Ultra Class toy has aged well. Still think it is decently articulated, High sculpted and beautiful looking. About the only flaw I see is no shoulder connecting tabs.

Still think the Takara 1997 Beast Wars II Lio Convoy. Lion form is the most beautiful sculpting I've ever seen done on a Beast Wars toy. Like the rigid fur, sculpt, Lion claws, Mane gimmick and pretty Lion face.

While I like the sculpting look on the Zoids and Gundam toys. Don't think I need to see them fuzed together on my update Beast Wars toys.

I'll be honest here. If Hasbro sold this Ultra class Leonidas toy for around USA retail $30, I'd buy it. Just don't think it's worth expensive Third party prices. as I think the Beast Wars II version was a almost flawless, well made, perfect, beautiful, well articulated toy.


Meanwhile, his previous post just a page back, dated 6 days ago:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Like the Gundam Zoids sculpting this toy has. Love how every part has sculpted details on it.

Looking at that Beast Wars II Lioconvoy to next to Leonidas. The Takara toy looks outdatted Thirty years old, Undersculpted, plain, simple and booring.


If you can't afford it, fine. There's no need **** on it and make up reasons to justify your decisions. >:oP


Busted. >:oP
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:13 pm

Allow me to explain my change of heart on some Third party TF toys.

I'm allowed to change my mind on Third party TF toy purchases. Their is no rule that I have to lock in my answer in a thread and keep it for the remainder of the thread. :lol:

Sometimes I want the toy at first. Then as the weeks and months pass by. With newer pics coming in. I rationialize things and change my mind.

Often times my decisions to pass on one or a few toys. Is the result of other newer toys that I like better. With the Third party TF toys costing so much. I need to budget this money. To buy the toys I really like.

Think the reasons I change my mind is due to the price tag on these toys. With the prices being so high. I have to gather my thoughts and budget to decide what I really like then buy. Think it's easier to buy more when the toys cost less at Hasbro's USA retail store prices.

Still haven't bought any of the Third party Dinobots. Was interested the most in Fans Toys versions. But Three things stopped me from buying them. Didn't like the simplistic weird looking face sculpts. Don't like buying G1 Update toys that received next to none persona or generic quickie personas. Don't like buying Third party group toys as Once you buy one you can't resist buying them all to complete the set. My toy budget can never hand spending almost $800 on Third party Dinobots toys.

What stopped me from buying KFC Blaster at the last minute. Didn't like the the big waist plate that prevented the hips from doing a sitting pose and karate kicking high pose. Think that waist plate could have easily been trimmed, seemed like it was big just for cosmetic beauty reasons.

Can maybe understand the no sitting pose if Blaster transformed into a complex vehicle. Where the waist plate was part of the vehicle transformation. Just think it's inexcusable since KFC Blaster transformed into a simplistic rectangular box. looking at the toy, all KFC had to do was trim the lower half of the waist plate to allow a sitting pose. Seems like they didn't out of cosmetic beauty reasons. Either this is bad final QC checks or something else. Example of good final QC checks is what X-T is doing for Apolloyn.

An example where I went back and forth on a toy. First mildly liking it, then really hating it. Then liking it again. Is the DX9 Astrotrain toy. The final colors pics changed my mind in favor of this toy. Also like the Leader class robot height.

With PE Leonidas, I did like the original art sketch and original CAD art for this toy in both modes. Then PE created a revamped design that was less pleasing to me than the first one. As the months passe by, My thoughts kept changing on this toy. What made me finally decide against this toy were the more clearer pics better showing off the sculpted details on this toy. Just don't need my Update toys to look like a fusion between Gundam and Zoids Aesthetics sculpting.

Just because I praise some Third party toys in threads. Does not mean i'm going to be spending over $20,000 per year in buying them all. Thinks it's possible to like and appreciate a TF toy design without the need to buy it. Recent examples of this are those Third party reflectors and perceptors toys being teased. Think the Third party companies are doing great work. But I have no intent on buying any of them. As I don't like robots that transform into weak useless alt modes that can't be used in battles.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:16 pm

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:42 pm

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... m_content=

BBTS has put up a pre order for this PE Leonidas toy. It's priced at $149.99 for a Ultra class 8.5 inch toy from head to toe.

:lol: According to PE it's has a 9.1 inch tall robot mode. As they measure the robot mode from toe to alt mode kibble sticking up on top of the shoulders or back. :lol:

:lol: Pretty sure if PE was making CW Leader Ultra Magnus. They'd measure the robot toy from toe to those high shoulders. They list CW Leader Ultra Magnus with a 11 inch tall robot mode. :lol:

Think a more fair price for PE Leonidas would be around $105 to $115. Just think $149.99 is a bit high for a Ultra Class toy. That is not a combiner team member torso. Has only Two Transformation modes. Appears to have a simplistic stand up beast to bot easy Transformation modes.

Noticed PE is one of those Third party TF companies that charges much more for their products compared to their competitors.

:-? Thinking this PE $149.99 price might change a lot of buyers minds against buying this toy. Thinking some are going to be playing the waiting clearance game for this toy.
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby megatronus » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:49 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
megatronus wrote:TL;DR

:lol: I admit I had to go to urban dictionary....

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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:58 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Allow me to explain my change of heart on some Third party TF toys.

And other stuff


If it's about price then say so. but how did

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Looking at that Beast Wars II Lioconvoy to next to Leonidas. The Takara toy looks outdatted Thirty years old, Undersculpted, plain, simple and booring.


go to

Still think that Takara Beast Wars II Lio Convoy Ultra Class toy has aged well. Still think it is decently articulated, High sculpted and beautiful looking. About the only flaw I see is no shoulder connecting tabs.

Still think the Takara 1997 Beast Wars II Lio Convoy. Lion form is the most beautiful sculpting I've ever seen done on a Beast Wars toy. Like the rigid fur, sculpt, Lion claws, Mane gimmick and pretty Lion face.


Not even talking about Leonidas here. I mean I makes sense if you don't like the new reveals and all or it's not what you thought it was but the takara Lio Convoy hasn't changed...
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:58 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
megatronus wrote:TL;DR

:lol: I admit I had to go to urban dictionary....

That's why we love you, you old codger! ;)

Hey!

:-s

Get off my lawn!


So, yeah, this lion bot....Is it bad that at this price point I am actually preferring my Cybertron Leobreaker and the combination with Cybertron Prime? This does look really good, and I like PE's stuff, in general. I'm just not feeling this one for some reason...
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Re: Perfect Effect Leonidas (Lio Convoy)

Postby megatronus » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:05 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
megatronus wrote:TL;DR

:lol: I admit I had to go to urban dictionary....

That's why we love you, you old codger! ;)

Hey!

:-s

Get off my lawn!

Kids these days... And their music! :-x
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